poll:who was best Pres in your lifetime

Cypress said:
Historical greatness in presidents is not determined by what the GDP percentage was in the third quarter of their final year in office.

Presidential greatness is defined by profound acts of leadership in the face of great crises, by how they deal with great moral challenges, and/or how they are remembered for their contributions to the advancement of democracy, equality, and human progress.

Obama is always going to be remembered for walking into office at a time of great peril, and saving us from a Second Great Republican Depression.

FDR is remembered for saving capitalism from a downward trajectory into chaos, and for saving western liberal democracy from the forces of rightwing fascism.

JFK stopped a nuclear war from happening by remarkable diplomatic skill and sheer foresight.

George Dumbya will be remembered for blundering us into two failed wars, and taking us right to the precipice of another Great Republican Depression.

Reagan, in my opinion, is going to be remembered for breaking the law, violating his constitutional oath of office, illegally selling high tech American weapons to Iran, caving to terrorists, undermining democracy, and elevating thinly-disguised racism and bigotry as a core value of the Republican Party.
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Nino Brown said it best "You have to rob to get rich in the Reagan era" - Nino Brown

And Reagan and the Republican party robbed America.
 
evince said:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/11/17561532/obama-best-president-trump-poll


Obama smashes it
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Let me see. I entered the world when Eisenhower was president so that would include him, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush sr. Clinton, Bush Jr. Obama, Trump.

Of that list, I would say Bill Clinton because America prospered under his leadership and he was responsible for balancing the budget and giving us a budget surplus as well as not getting us involved in a major military conflict during his two terms as president. But because of his dalliance with Monica, which showed extremely poor judgement for someone in his position, I can't bring myself to choose him.

I would then choose Barack Obama because he pulled us out of the Bush/Cheney recession which was the worst economic downturn in 80 years. He scaled down Bush Jr's two failed wars and killed Osama Bin Laden, something the previous administration couldn't do and failed to take action on. Personally, my 401k, IRA and other non-retirement investments more than doubled during President Obama's eight years. Hard to argue with that.
 
Thing1 said:
Pretty slim pickins.

I liked Obama the best - he was very flawed, but he was the most intelligent by a mile, and that at least gets high marks.

Clinton was probably the "best" in terms of success, and the nineties absolutely rocked overall. Just not that likable or really that smart.

I like Bush Sr. a lot better after the Republicans that followed. GW and Trump are definite low points. Reagan was charismatic and had good leadership qualities, but is consistently overrated.
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Reagan was a lying racist asshole

the right constantly lies about his record


your right wing is showing
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
Let me see. I entered the world when Eisenhower was president so that would include him, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush sr. Clinton, Bush Jr. Obama, Trump.

Of that list, I would say Bill Clinton because America prospered under his leadership and he was responsible for balancing the budget and giving us a budget surplus as well as not getting us involved in a major military conflict during his two terms as president. But because of his dalliance with Monica, which showed extremely poor judgement for someone in his position, I can't bring myself to choose him.

I would then choose Barack Obama because he pulled us out of the Bush/Cheney recession which was the worst economic downturn in 80 years. He scaled down Bush Jr's two failed wars and killed Osama Bin Laden, something the previous administration couldn't do and failed to take action on. Personally, my 401k, IRA and other non-retirement investments more than doubled during President Obama's eight years. Hard to argue with that.
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I came in under Ike also


Ike was a good man


Obama crushes it for me



he had to face more than Clinton did


Clinton thought the no tell rule would keep him safe


there used to be an agreement to stay away from sex and the president


republicans changed that
 
1. Gerald Ford.
2. H.W. wasn't bad.
3. Tie
Obama, Trump. They kept hrc from getting elected.
5. Reagan
Worst - Johnson. Started the Vietnam war under false pretenses.
 
TrippyHippy said:
He was in the poll thingy is what I meant. I know I can't actually choose him because he wasn't in my lifetime.
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/shrugs.....can't see the "poll thingy" because Desh in on my ignore list, but obviously the criteria is specific....."poll:who was best Pres in your lifetime"......
 
aloysious said:
1. Gerald Ford.
2. H.W. wasn't bad.
3. Tie
Obama, Trump. They kept hrc from getting elected.
5. Reagan
Worst - Johnson. Started the Vietnam war under false pretenses.
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Johnson started the Vietnam war under false pretenses? And what were the false pretenses you speak of? Were they any worse than Bush Jr's false pretenses for starting the Iraqi war?
 
evince said:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/11/17561532/obama-best-president-trump-poll


Obama smashes it
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"Overall, the Pew Survey found that millennials strongly favored Obama — a whopping 62 percent — whereas Gen X-ers, baby boomers, and the silent generation favored Reagan."

No shit. Of course the numbers will skew towards more recent Presidents. The millennials by and large weren't alive during Reagan and certainly weren't old enough to remember him.

Again liberals show their ignorance when quoting moronic polls like this. Clinton was hands down a better President than Bush, Obama and Trump. Yet the dopey millienials went with Obama because they again were fairly young during the Clinton years.
 
Cypress said:
It is not even open to debate that he is the best president of our generation.

Not surprising that the competent and capable Bill Clinton came in second.

Though I gotta admit...the competition wasn't very stiff. George Dubya Bush, and some Orange-colored Reality TV entertainer hardly qualify as competition.
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LMAO... yes it is open for debate. You moronic leg humping misogynistic rape apologist.
 
evince said:
um he isn't

this poll is showing that
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Pay attention to the question moron. Again, those under the age of 32 weren't alive for Reagan. The nature of the question prohibits them from choosing Reagan. Most of those were too young to even remember Clinton.
 
Superfreak said:
"Overall, the Pew Survey found that millennials strongly favored Obama — a whopping 62 percent — whereas Gen X-ers, baby boomers, and the silent generation favored Reagan."

No shit. Of course the numbers will skew towards more recent Presidents. The millennials by and large weren't alive during Reagan and certainly weren't old enough to remember him.

Again liberals show their ignorance when quoting moronic polls like this. Clinton was hands down a better President than Bush, Obama and Trump. Yet the dopey millienials went with Obama because they again were fairly young during the Clinton years.
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fuckyou

you lie right into the face of facts shitlips
 
Thing1 said:
Can you imagine if Trump did for the economy what Obama did after taking over when it was spiraling downward, after the biggest crash in decades?

Tripling the stock market, bringing the unemployment rate back to where we were just a few months from full employment when he left office, creating millions of jobs, a near-record # of quarters in a row where the economy grew, saving the auto industry - if that was Trump, there would be 24x7 tweetstorms where he proclaimed himself the greatest leader in the history of mankind.
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ok nut-bag, I'll play

why don't you explain to all of us the policies "Obama" was responsible that did all of these you tout of him.
 
Teflon Don said:
Rewrite history much?
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he rewrites history consistently with his moronic rantings. He even pretends not to be the leg humping misogynistic rape apologist that he is. He pretends those of us on the board back then don't recall how pathetic he is in his treatment of women. He pretends he isn't a stalker.
 
Thing1 said:
Pretty slim pickins.

I liked Obama the best - he was very flawed, but he was the most intelligent by a mile, and that at least gets high marks.

Clinton was probably the "best" in terms of success, and the nineties absolutely rocked overall. Just not that likable or really that smart.

I like Bush Sr. a lot better after the Republicans that followed. GW and Trump are definite low points. Reagan was charismatic and had good leadership qualities, but is consistently overrated.
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The Rhodes scholar is clearly smarter than the affirmative action one.
 
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