#walkaway

ThatOwlWoman said:
First thing all would-be tyrants do is identify an enemy and whip the minions up into a frenzy over it.

BTW, the law that requires all ERs to treat emergent conditions and not turn them away for lack of insurance was passed and signed off by Saint Ronnie.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment."

( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act )

I was lucky enough one day while still in nursing school and working PT at a local hospital to see this law work as designed. A young military couple presented to the small ER, where she was assessed as in active (really active!!!) labor, and sent upstairs to the delivery room area. They weren't from the area; they were traveling through on their way to his next base. I was instructed, as an aide, to help the husband sign in and fill out paperwork. I saw what she was doing as she was rushed by in a wheelchair to the delivery room, so told him "Hey, let's forget this paperwork for now, come with me and see your child be born!" He was all for that. I asked him if he was okay with witnessing delivery, so his young 20-something-yo self told me how he was in Iraq and saw terrible things, so he was okay with it. We went into the delivery room, where Mama was on the cusp. There was no time to give her any epi or other pain-relieving measures. I kept one eye on him and when I saw him start to crumple shoved a chair at him. He sat only briefly, to catch his wind, and then we saw their son be born. He was crying and so was I. The real hero though was Mrs. Soldier.... she gave out a few grunts and a couple of yells, and delivered a very healthy 10 lb little boy after only a couple of hours of labor, most of which happened in their car. A true soldier!

I was so impressed that no one gave them crap about their health insurance status.... everyone was focused on mom and bringing the passenger into this life.
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"First thing all would-be tyrants do is identify an enemy and whip the minions up into a frenzy over it"

Gee; that's a perfect description of what liberals have done with President Trump, ever since he was nominated. :good4u:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
"First thing all would-be tyrants do is identify an enemy and whip the minions up into a frenzy over it"

Gee; that's a perfect description of what liberals have done with President Trump, ever since he was nominated. :good4u:
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Yes, it is as american as apple pie, it's a constant in this society, we founded a nation upon it, partially.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Sure, let's import mathematicians and chemists to take our more highly-paid jobs. That's idiotic.

As for that "unskilled labor" -- do you know a single white American who wants to work in the orchards and fields, doing minimum wage gopher work on construction sites, changing soiled linens in hotels, etc.?
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the future is high tech -amazing you don't know this.
we have an excess supply of unskilled workers,and robotics make them less valuable (market) in the future
 
christiefan915 said:
? I never said it was a racist comment to start with. Did you read my response in #166?

The whole issue was about protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries, who came here because of violence or famine or poverty. Norway doesn't have those problems but trump brought them into the discussion anyway.
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famine and poverty are not legal reasons for asylum
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Guess my optimism springs eternal because I still long for a united country where hardly anyone suffers. One where we agree more than disagree and compromise and work together to bring back the America that was and could be again.
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da resistance started the day after trumps election
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
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Some people here seem to think you are an out-of-control, angry troll.

I think you are an asshole…and probably certifiable. You should seek mental health help. Truly.

In the meantime…chill! This is life…not a dress rehearsal.

You are a pathetic troll, USF. Instead of annoying...you amuse!

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despite the partisan posts in this thread i do find this slightly encouraging. Hopefully we can all get to the point where we root for President Trump to suceed.

Remember we are

One Country
One People
and have One Trump as our leader

: )
 
Some letters to the editor regarding the lefties push to abolish ICE, from the NYT:

John California

I am a lifelong Democrat. Never voted for a Republican in my life. Though I despise Trump, as dimwitted and mendacious as he largely is, I think he has his finger on the pulse of the majority of American voters' attitudes towards illegal aliens. The image he pushes is that illegal aliens take jobs and pay little into social services, while putting undue burden on social services and eroding the traditional American culture, willingly ignoring our laws. Whether or not his caricature is true, he is gaining support throughout the nation coast to coast with this caricature.

Democrats are going to play Trump's game--watch his support grow--if they are going to push this anti-ICE agenda. More fodder for his "Democrats want open borders" lie. Abolishing ICE is a losing cause outside outside of immigrant (often non-voting) communities.

Phyliss Dalmatian

Wichita, Kansas

Lifelong Dem, here. " Abolish ICE " is a recipe for disaster, and electoral defeat.

John D San Diego

Oh, please. This is not a "progressive rallying cry," it's a beginner's guide to self-immolation.

Shenoa United States

The Left are doing a mighty fine job influencing us moderate liberals to vote Republican in November...for the first time in our adult lives. Bravo.

J CA

When the state of California started giving drivers licenses to illegal immigrants a few years ago, I stopped being a Democrat. When Governor Brown declared California a "sanctuary state" last year, I became a Republican. I don't like most Republican policies but will vote that way from now on unless the Democrats come to their senses.
 
noise said:
the future is high tech -amazing you don't know this.
we have an excess supply of unskilled workers,and robotics make them less valuable (market) in the future
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Then instead of importing ppl, let's open up some trade schools and get our own citizens up to speed.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Then instead of importing ppl, let's open up some trade schools and get our own citizens up to speed.
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we are supposed to be doing that. Congress won't do anything.

There a re couple of candidates for Fl.Governor who say the same,
but the insane focus is still shoving everyone into liberal arts.

Immigration needs to be changed from "chain" to skill based (merit)
 
noise said:
we are supposed to be doing that. Congress won't do anything.

There a re couple of candidates for Fl.Governor who say the same,
but the insane focus is still shoving everyone into liberal arts.

Immigration needs to be changed from "chain" to skill based (merit)
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Congress won't do jack shit till the people demand it. Why aren't we demanding it? Because for many, many decades now trade skills have been looked down on as inferior to "thinking" skills, i.e. a college-based education. I grew up in a suburb of St. Louis which was still in transition from mostly farming to a bedroom community for highly-educated and -compensated ppl. Our school district had a vo-tech program. Some kids would attend academic classes half the day, then be bused to the vo-tech school to learn stuff like plumbing, electrician work, nurses aide, cook/chef, carpentry, auto mechanics, etc. The college-bound kids made snotty remarks about them not being very smart. What parent wants his kid to go to a vo-tech school as opposed to a university? We need to remove the stigma of trade schools and make them as well-staffed and well-funded as traditional colleges.

ETA: I agree with your comment about merit-based chain migration.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Congress won't do jack shit till the people demand it. Why aren't we demanding it? Because for many, many decades now trade skills have been looked down on as inferior to "thinking" skills, i.e. a college-based education. I grew up in a suburb of St. Louis which was still in transition from mostly farming to a bedroom community for highly-educated and -compensated ppl. Our school district had a vo-tech program. Some kids would attend academic classes half the day, then be bused to the vo-tech school to learn stuff like plumbing, electrician work, nurses aide, cook/chef, carpentry, auto mechanics, etc. The college-bound kids made snotty remarks about them not being very smart. What parent wants his kid to go to a vo-tech school as opposed to a university? We need to remove the stigma of trade schools and make them as well-staffed and well-funded as traditional colleges.

ETA: I agree with your comment about merit-based chain migration.
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good descriptions. I agree with everything you write here. Look to the governors for change
 
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