Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

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That's a whole lotta Havany poon posting.
 
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That's a whole lotta Havany poon posting.
McCrapper sure is a major league arsehole!!

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Haven't watched them since they were purple people eaters. Not a rough day for me, I'm not the one trolling.
You are conservative thus you are aligned with Sailor in trolling California as a liberal "poverty capital"

Doesn't change my day a bit. Just makes me point it out.

Your anger should be directed at the LA Times, not Sailor. But easier to feign indignation than discuss what was written
 
This is an Op Ed well worth the read. Direct and to the point, states its facts nicely. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

Here is one part that caught my eye. "Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls."

because the homeless migrate here



many many people want to come to california

dreams of fame

dreams of beautiful beaches

dreams of not sleeping on a street covered in fucking snow


everyone wants to be in Cali


even those with little to no money
 
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That's a whole lotta Havany poon posting.
I see The Californian Cockwomble has Doris as a groupie.

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Your anger should be directed at the LA Times, not Sailor. But easier to feign indignation than discuss what was written

It's an OP -Ed. He liked the opinion piece headline and trolled it because of me. You are now just going ad hom. You are conservative. You apparently don't like the label.

We've discussed the exact issue before. No problem discussing real issues here.
 
It's an OP -Ed. He liked the opinion piece headline and trolled it because of me. You are now just going ad hom. You are conservative. You apparently don't like the label.

We've discussed the exact issue before. No problem discussing real issues here.

Is one to assume all subjects posted are intended to troll you or is there a way for us to differentiate?
 
I wish all the mindless bs would stop. Even if some things are what people say, it's just pointless. What is their to gain, what can be solved? Nothing because it's only flexing notions of bias. It's sad, it's contemptuous, it's just bickering about one side being superior, and slandering the other. Solutions are rarely being sought, it's more trying to offload blame. Politics in this country has reached lows that are staggering, and vile. And rather than work at change, we just bicker about unimportant fit's of pride, and contempt, just like those in power want.

The policies offered and pushed for by the national democratic party are the cause, where anyone who objects to the mass illegal alien invasion/flooding of the country is called a "racist," "uneducated", "bigot," etc.

How does that help keep the conversation civil, and on track towards solutions? It doesn't.

As I wrote in the other thread, the dems have knowingly pursued policies that been intentionally destructive to the country; they have imported/embraced huge numbers of poor, uneducated illegals to drive their large government agenda - see the paragraph highlighted in the OP above.

The dems sole interest is to retain power, even if that means maintaining policies severely detrimental to the quality of life of the country. Until the democratic party is dissolved and replaced with one that is for the country's advancement, let alone civil discourse, can be improved.
 
LOL. Of course I disagree, and it is like him to troll. He didn't need California for an econ lesson, he need look no further than the bloated military budget.
But you don't hear that jerk Morwron/sailor saying the US military is making a mistake by not slashing its budget and growing its coffers
and competing to spend to justify its trillions, do we now.

He is right in part, it is thought by those who provide the $ that if you did not spend it in '17, you don't need it in '18, and so that impetus to spend unnecessarily
exists. But that is true across govt and I've seen its analogue in the private sector in analogous ways. It's not a philosophical problem or an error he is trolling,
its a problem of scale and accountability.

But he is way too stupid to debate this. He is a mere sailor, and harvester of sea insects, a deliverer of contraband, a scoundrel and clown.

Idiot, you could cut the military budget by a third and it would not reduce the massive debt that obama and the scumbag dems built up in the 8 years of his admin.

The facts laid out in the OP's article are unassailable, which is why the far left trash in this thread keep making personal attacks - its because they have no argument to defend the lunatic, socialist, moronic policies of the national democratic party in places like CA, IL, NY, etc where big government programs and high taxes have conspired to destroy the economics bases of those states.
 
Idiot, you could cut the military budget by a third and it would not reduce the massive debt that obama and the scumbag dems built up in the 8 years of his admin.

The facts laid out in the OP's article are unassailable, which is why the far left trash in this thread keep making personal attacks - its because they have no argument to defend the lunatic, socialist, moronic policies of the national democratic party in places like CA, IL, NY, etc where big government programs and high taxes have conspired to destroy the economics bases of those states.

link to your claimed facts butt mite
 
The policies offered and pushed for by the national democratic party are the cause, where anyone who objects to the mass illegal alien invasion/flooding of the country is called a "racist," "uneducated", "bigot," etc.

How does that help keep the conversation civil, and on track towards solutions? It doesn't.

As I wrote in the other thread, the dems have knowingly pursued policies that been intentionally destructive to the country; they have imported/embraced huge numbers of poor, uneducated illegals to drive their large government agenda - see the paragraph highlighted in the OP above.

The dems sole interest is to retain power, even if that means maintaining policies severely detrimental to the quality of life of the country. Until the democratic party is dissolved and replaced with one that is for the country's advancement, let alone civil discourse, can be improved.


no one is flooding the country, you are a liar
 
The policies offered and pushed for by the national democratic party are the cause, where anyone who objects to the mass illegal alien invasion/flooding of the country is called a "racist," "uneducated", "bigot," etc.

How does that help keep the conversation civil, and on track towards solutions? It doesn't.

As I wrote in the other thread, the dems have knowingly pursued policies that been intentionally destructive to the country; they have imported/embraced huge numbers of poor, uneducated illegals to drive their large government agenda - see the paragraph highlighted in the OP above.

The dems sole interest is to retain power, even if that means maintaining policies severely detrimental to the quality of life of the country. Until the democratic party is dissolved and replaced with one that is for the country's advancement, let alone civil discourse, can be improved.

fuck you racist

wear the badge you display every day


we dont let racist lilke you define racism

that is like letting rapists define rape
 
Idiot, you could cut the military budget by a third and it would not reduce the massive debt that obama and the scumbag dems built up in the 8 years of his admin.

The facts laid out in the OP's article are unassailable, which is why the far left trash in this thread keep making personal attacks - its because they have no argument to defend the lunatic, socialist, moronic policies of the national democratic party in places like CA, IL, NY, etc where big government programs and high taxes have conspired to destroy the economics bases of those states.


the reason people make fun of deplorables like you is because you are stupid.
 
Idiot, you could cut the military budget by a third and it would not reduce the massive debt that obama and the scumbag dems built up in the 8 years of his admin.

The facts laid out in the OP's article are unassailable, which is why the far left trash in this thread keep making personal attacks - its because they have no argument to defend the lunatic, socialist, moronic policies of the national democratic party in places like CA, IL, NY, etc where big government programs and high taxes have conspired to destroy the economics bases of those states.

No, actually total defense spending is about a trillion annually. $333 billion per year off the national debt would take 42 years if we only cut military spending by 1/3, did nothing else to service down the debt with the our present 14 trillion annual gnp, and assuming no growth whatsoever.
We could pay it down and it wouldn't even pinch. Loser, fool, fascist, ignorant scum.
 
Love this line from the article: (Rule of thumb: If your plan to lower housing costs depends on overthrowing the laws of capitalism, it’s not a plan at all.)




Go on, California — blow up your lousy zoning laws


Go on, California. Do it. Blow up the zoning laws that choke off new housing and force chefs, nursing assistants, and college professors to live in their cars.
A state senator from San Francisco recently filed legislation to sweep away minimum-parking requirements, limits on density, and certain other restrictions on residential housing construction within a half-mile of a train station and a quarter-mile of stops on high-frequency bus routes. Senator Scott Wiener’s bill would promote bigger, taller new buildings in transit-rich urban areas across California.

The bill may be the biggest environmental boon, the best job creator, and the greatest strike against inequality that anyone’s proposed in the United States in decades.

Ease up on zoning limits, and private developers — with their own money — will create millions of new units in urban areas, absorbing the influx of tech and finance bros, freeing up homes for everyone else, and creating lots of construction jobs along the way. Make room for more people in some of the world’s most economically productive metro areas, and the whole country benefits.

Thriving cities need room to grow. According to a new report by the real-estate website Trulia, two-thirds of homes in San Francisco are now valued at $1 million or more, up from 22 percent since 2012. In the Boston area, the situation isn’t that dire — yet — but the percentage of homes with million-dollar values has nearly doubled in five years.

In the rare event Wiener’s bill passes, it might just persuade pricey enclaves around the country, including Eastern Massachusetts, that the cure for a housing crisis doesn’t have to be complex.

Recently, Governor Charlie Baker proposed a modest housing package, including a grant program for cities and towns that ease their zoning, plus modest legislation that would allow local government bodies to approve denser home construction by a simple majority, rather than a two-thirds vote. There have been other efforts on Beacon Hill to loosen up zoning rules statewide — for instance, by designating areas where developers can build housing without seeking special permission and by giving people freer rein to carve granny apartments out of existing houses — but progress has been slow. The House in particular has protected the ability of cities and towns to say no.

Meanwhile, even some people who consider themselves housing advocates are in thrall to the left-wing version of climate-change denial: the belief that building more units pushes prices up, not down. At last year’s state Democratic convention, a band of progressives tried — and, blessedly, failed — to change the party platform to remove language supporting market-rate housing. (Rule of thumb: If your plan to lower housing costs depends on overthrowing the laws of capitalism, it’s not a plan at all.)


In California, opponents of Wiener’s bill argue, predictably, that he’s shilling for developers and, more imaginatively, that the bill serves a white-supremacist agenda. But any suggestion that today’s zoning promotes equity is nothing short of astonishing.

Zoning has an ugly history. In a startling book entitled “The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America,” author Richard Rothstein details the thousands of steps that federal, state, and local officials took over decades to keep African-Americans from moving into white areas. When courts invalidated explicit racial zoning, cities and towns from coast to coast imposed codes that restricted the construction of multifamily housing — a more legally defensible way to keep supposed undesirables out.

Today, we justify zoning as a way of protecting schools and homes from slaughterhouses and chemical plants. Fair enough. But having long ago vanquished genuine nuisances, upscale homeowners have moved on to fighting threats like height and shadows. When people are offered the chance to tell other people what they can and can’t do with their property, it’s too tempting to turn down.

Many of the most beloved neighborhoods in the Boston area were built before the advent of zoning, and they didn’t need it to develop as nicely as they did. And once neighborhood groups decide that stricter is better, it’s hard to stop — which is why vast areas of Greater Boston cannot legally be rebuilt under current zoning.

California’s housing problems are like ours, but only more so. Population growth there has been far faster, and many of the land-use laws there are stricter. As a result, housing prices out there have spiraled much farther out of control.


On the upside, if and when the government legalizes more housing construction, the housing market will respond quickly. In the year since California eased restrictions on granny flats, the number of applications to build the units in Los Angeles has risen 20-fold. Now the Golden State has a chance to do something far bolder.

Come on, California. Don’t be shy.


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No, actually total defense spending is about a trillion annually. $333 billion per year off the national debt would take 42 years if we only cut military spending by 1/3, did nothing else to service down the debt with the our present 14 trillion annual gnp, and assuming no growth whatsoever.
We could pay it down and it wouldn't even pinch. Loser, fool, fascist, ignorant scum.
Cut out the fraud, waste, abuse and dead wood from the army and that would account for at least a third of their budget.
 
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