Trump Administration moves to end legal marijuana.

[sear]

" I still don't want the federal government ignoring what people are saying about allowing it to be legal, but " z #559

The true politically conservative position in all such matters is pro-choice.

We don't need no stinkin' Drug War. If you don't wanna do the doobie, don't do the doobie.
Problem solved.
Case closed.

PS
From a $FISCAL conservative's perspective, Drug War is a compound abomination.

Our Republican congress is cutting taxes which reports indicate will reduce government revenue.

So if congress then spends a $Trillion on infrastructure rescue (desperately needed):

it will be tacked on to the U.S. federal debt.

BUT !!

At least the grandkids that end up paying it back will have something to show for their expenditure:
- improved highways
- safer bridges
- more durable municipal water supplies
- etc.

But we're deficit spending on Drug War too.
So the grandkids are going to end up paying for that!

And what will they have to show for it?

 

[zymurgy]

I think that's all debatable.

But I'll just say it's safer than tobacco and alcohol, and leave it at that.

not only do people start needing more "hits", they move on to devices that allow larger hits in an attempt to achieve those strong highs they achieved early on in their use before their body gained a tolerance

alcohol and tobacco are highly addictive chemically. TCH intoxication is pleasurable, allowing physical dependence, which is nowhere near as hard to overcome as a chemical dependence.

alcohol intoxication literally derives from your body fighting a poisonous substance. you don't get drunk form alcohol, you get drunk from the chemicals your body produces to counter the alcohol, or that is what I have come to understand.

I think the most fascinating think about cannabis is everything we know about irritants such as smoke should increase cancer risks in healthy cells, but that does not seem to show up in case studies. I know some have speculated that the THC is the plants own defense mechanism against disease, so that might be a link?

 

[Damocles]

the potency of cannabis today is nowhere like it was back when I was in college.

no way is it as debilitating to driving as alcohol, but the mentality that it isn't problem is much like how drinking and driving was viewed 30- years ago. That is just wrong, and I wonder if the problem is most people don't realize the significant improvement in potency that has occurred over time as they are relying on their own anecdotal evidence for the weak ass shit that used to be sold "by the lid"

I'm not saying it isn't a problem, I am saying the solution isn't making a black market to ensure there is no sane regulation.

 

[cancel2 2022]

I'm not saying it isn't a problem, I am saying the solution isn't making a black market to ensure there is no sane regulation.

I can't help thinking that there are many dealers in the projects that don't want it to be legalised.

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[zymurgy]

I can't help thinking that there are many dealers in the projects that don't want it to be legalised.

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they aren't who controls policy.

I'm thinking criminal violations on your record is a great way to implement wage reductions, so this is just a way to suppress wages and allow people to be complacent in having an impoverished existence.

 

[cancel2 2022]

they aren't who controls policy.

I'm thinking criminal violations on your record is a great way to implement wage reductions, so this is just a way to suppress wages and allow people to be complacent in having an impoverished existence.

I doubt if those dealers have ever had a normal job, do you?

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[zymurgy]

I doubt if those dealers have ever had a normal job, do you?

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I have known people that were fairly large cannabis dealers while also working factory jobs and construction jobs.

It solves two birds with one stone - money laundering so to speak as you need to show you earn money when you are making lots of money

and two - distribution networks. You will find plenty of consumers working labor jobs in this country

 

[evince]

human tolerance to THC makes this a short lived experience for most people. After time, they stop getting the same level of intoxication from one hit, so it becomes 2, then 3, etc.

these stronger strains also produce far more of a tar like residue, and given the lack of long time history of what that is doing, I fear the younger generation is wrong about the long term effects of these stronger strains.

only time will tell. I still don't want the federal government ignoring what people are saying about allowing it to be legal, but I think people on the safe side argument are being pretty myopic about things as well.

that is why you take a week or so off from time to time.


I have no problem doing it


I just dont think its as adictive as somen think

 

[zymurgy]

what kind of retard constantly replies to a person he knows can't see it?

just things I ponder.

lol

 

[evince]

they aren't who controls policy.

I'm thinking criminal violations on your record is a great way to implement wage reductions, so this is just a way to suppress wages and allow people to be complacent in having an impoverished existence.

yes racists have been selectively doing this for decades

then they move on to what they call "white trash"


pot is not the problem dude


smoke some sativa and realize they dont want your to think


that it what GOOD pot does


they dont want the minions thinking creatively


its why they hate the arts and refuse to fund them in public schools


starve the schools and give them lots of booze and herion


then they lay down and die after working a few mindless decades

 

[evince]

what kind of retard constantly replies to a person he knows can't see it?

just things I ponder.

lol

you think I post for your dumb fucking self centered and self sensored ass?


people besides you read these words


and I post for them


your dumb fucking self sensored ass helped me own you doink

 

[countryboy]

I think we have a current user gentlemen. lol

you read my post, and completely bombed in the interpretation.

strong stuff did exist 30 years ago, but it was extremely rare to find - Sensimilla wasn't commonly sold like it is today

Lol, it wasn't rare at all where I grew up in So Cal. And the Columbian gold we used to get back then was just as potent. To say nothing of the hash and hash oil. You do realize the term "sensemilla" simply means "seedless", right? It really has nothing to do with potency.

 

[zymurgy]

Lol, it wasn't rare at all where I grew up in So Cal. And the Columbian gold we used to get back then was just as potent. To say nothing of the hash and hash oil. You do realize the term "sensemilla" simply means "seedless", right? It really has nothing to do with potency.

one state among 50.......

you do realize the biggest increase in potency comes from removing males and allowing the flower cycle to fully focus on something other then reproduction

 

[evince]

Lol, it wasn't rare at all where I grew up in So Cal. And the Columbian gold we used to get back then was just as potent. To say nothing of the hash and hash oil. You do realize the term "sensemilla" simply means "seedless", right? It really has nothing to do with potency.

he knows what he knows


he is here to form a debate


I think hes a paid poster


I was trying to get him to talk so I could suss out his world view


if he has no morals we will know soon if he continues down the logic path I think hes taking

 

[cawacko]

I'm not a weed person. In fact I've never tried it. So I speak from ignorance on what is good or what isn't it. But as a hip hop fan I am aware of The Chronic. Where does it rank among quality?

 

[Phantasmal]

one state among 50.......

I grew up in Kansas, there were very potent strains back in the 70’s. I had some Thai that was just as potent as what I smoke now. I moved to Alaska and found Mantanuska Thunderfuck that was also a high potency. I also smoked my first blueberry, that was in ‘75.

There me a lot more potent strains available these days, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t always potent strains.

 

[countryboy]

one state among 50.......

you do realize the biggest increase in potency comes from removing males and allowing the flower cycle to fully focus on something other then reproduction

Nope, absolutely incorrect. Potency is 100% a function of genetics.

 

[zymurgy]

I'm not a weed person. In fact I've never tried it. So I speak from ignorance on what is good or what isn't it. But as a hip hop fan I am aware of The Chronic. Where does it rank among quality?

that is probably a nickname. kind. chronic. are terms for high quality. schwag, dirt, mexican, etc were what were referred to as low quality.

the biggest cause for high potency (outside of strain itself, which are given unique names) is removing the male. the second best thing is increasing Co2 while maintaining optimum temps.

 

[zymurgy]

Nope, absolutely incorrect. Potency is 100% a function of genetics.

lol

http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/potency.htm

 

[zymurgy]

I grew up in Kansas, there were very potent strains back in the 70’s. I had some Thai that was just as potent as what I smoke now. I moved to Alaska and found Mantanuska Thunderfuck that was also a high potency. I also smoked my first blueberry, that was in ‘75.

There me a lot more potent strains available these days, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t always potent strains.

you had less of a tolerance then

removing the male plant prior to flowering was done in the 70's too, just not as common.