Paul Ryan admits the GOP will gut Medicare and Medicaid to pay for tax cuts

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signalmankenneth

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You are not going to slash my social security to pay for this asinine tax cut for the rich?!! It suppose to pay for itself?

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-ryan-tax-cuts-medicare-medicaid-f87d810ad5b9/
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S.S., Medicare and military are the three largest federal expenditures. Going to have to address them at some point
 
cawacko said:
S.S., Medicare and military are the three largest federal expenditures. Going to have to address them at some point
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Then we don't need tax cuts, we need to address the deficit, these tax cuts only add to the deficit! Better raise taxes on the rich and corporations and close tax loopholes they use to not pay their fair share of taxes or none at all!
 
signalmankenneth said:
Then we don't need tax cuts, we need to address the deficit, these tax cuts only add to the deficit! Better raise taxes on the rich and corporations and close tax loopholes they use to not pay their fair share of taxes or none at all!
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That's was the point of tax reform. Politicians you vote for are the ones who put in the loopholes. If we had a flat tax they wouldn't be necessary but this is the system we prefer. So loopholes are what you get.

And this is what we should have done all along. You cut taxes you need to cut spending along with it. This is the right way to go about it
 
Flash said:
The tax cuts are federal income taxes which do not affect Social Security and Medicare funding (Part A).
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Excuse me, but isn’t that what this thread is about, gutting programs to pay for the tax cuts? It seems it will have an affect.
 
Covfefe said:
Tax cuts for the rich are not the way to do it.
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Covfefe said:
Excuse me, but isn’t that what this thread is about, gutting programs to pay for the tax cuts? It seems it will have an affect.
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How will a cut in federal income taxes affect Social Security which operates only on payroll taxes? Neither Social Security or Medicare are sustainable at the current level without cuts or increased taxes according to the trustees.
 
cawacko said:
S.S., Medicare and military are the three largest federal expenditures. Going to have to address them at some point
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Reduce the military to a modest sized professional force necessary to defend the conterminous United States and it's territories, expand Medicare to all people, and raise the cap on social security payroll taxes.

Problem solved.

This isn't about what we can afford.

This is about the enduring Republican philosophy that it's each man for himself, and fuck everyone else.
 
Cypress said:
Reduce the military to a modest sized professional force necessary to defend the conterminous United States and it's territories, expand Medicare to all people, and raise the cap on social security payroll taxes.

Problem solved.

This isn't about what we can afford.

This is about the enduring Republican philosophy that it's each man for himself, and fuck everyone else.
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This is when it's easy to be a a liberal because you can say give everything to everyone, costs be damned, and you will be lauded for being compassionate.

Recognizing that programs are unsustainable in current forms and the need to fix them isn't saying screw everyone else.
 
Cypress said:
Reduce the military to a modest sized professional force necessary to defend the conterminous United States and it's territories, expand Medicare to all people, and raise the cap on social security payroll taxes.

Problem solved.

This isn't about what we can afford.

This is about the enduring Republican philosophy that it's each man for himself, and fuck everyone else.
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Why should I pay for you and you don’t pay for yourself?

Why do others have to pay to satisfy your conscience?
 
Covfefe said:
Tax cuts for the rich are not the way to do it.
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Cypress said:
Reduce the military to a modest sized professional force necessary to defend the conterminous United States and it's territories, expand Medicare to all people, and raise the cap on social security payroll taxes.

Problem solved.

This isn't about what we can afford.

This is about the enduring Republican philosophy that it's each man for himself, and fuck everyone else.
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Removing the Social Security cap is not enough to fix the problem. You are spending as much on increased benefits that accompany increased contributions.
 
cawacko said:
S.S., Medicare and military are the three largest federal expenditures. Going to have to address them at some point
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Yep..... so let's stop being the world's bully, cut that military down to size*, raise taxes on the uber wealthy, repair our infrastructure, and really make America great again, or at least a little less shabby.

* Moratorium on new weapons systems, close military bases around the world, bring our people home, let them serve the rest of their enlistment periods serving us as they signed up to do.... putting out wildfires, helping flood victims, repairing storm damage, building bridges/roads/schools, etc.
 
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