So who was right on the Iraq War? Liberals vs. Conservatives.

It's probably what they are doing now.

I don't care enough to care.

no they are not producing it because it doesnt exist

they are lying


they want us to just forget they are lying


yet they refuse to stop lying.


hense their lies will never be forgotten.



if they dont want their lies brought up then they need to stop producing more lies.


but then their whole belief system fails right in front of their faces
 
He's incorrect , then. Super predators refer to young black males, the PC term for them hrc coined in the '90's

I said exactly what I meant.

He used urban stereo types to threaten me.

Hilary did not coin super predator.....she repeated it.

Super predator was around long before she said it.

It was introduced during the drug war and the rise of for profit prisons that the racist white men implemented..

Another reason why your called a racist.
 
He's incorrect , then. Super predators refer to young black males, the PC term for them hrc coined in the '90's




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._DiIulio,_Jr.



Career[edit]
Previously, he served as the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives under President George W. Bush from early 2001 to August 2001. He was the first senior Bush advisor to resign and was succeeded by Jim Towey. In a letter written a little over a year after resigning (that later was printed in Esquire), he wrote that while "President Bush is a highly admirable person of enormous personal decency," his governing style allowed certain staffers, referred to as "Mayberry Machiavellis," to "[steer] legislative initiatives or policy proposals as far right as possible." [1] In late 2008 and early 2009, DiIulio consulted with the transition team of President Barack Obama regarding the restructuring of the White House faith-based initiative.[2]
DiIulio has authored numerous studies on crime, government, and the relationship between religion and public policy. He is also the co-author of the widely used textbook American Government with James Q. Wilson, which was reviewed by the publisher and the College Board after the discovery of factual inaccuracies and allegations of conservative bias regarding issues such as global warming, school prayer, and gay rights.[3] Among those who criticized the textbook was James E. Hansen, the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who wrote to the publisher that the book contained "a large number of clearly erroneous statements" which cause "the mistaken impression that the scientific evidence of global warming is doubtful and uncertain."[3]
He is also credited with coining, or at least popularizing, the term (and concept of) "superpredators" in reference to juvenile violent crime in the early 1990s.[4] Under this concept DiIulio and co-authors, William J. Bennett and John P. Walters, referred to America's youth as, "radically impulsive, [and] brutally remorseless youngsters..."[5]
Under this ideology DiIulio predicted that juvenile crime would triple by the year 2010.[6] This rapidly created a culture of fear of young people. The next few years resulted in a change of juvenile sentencing; which, would lead to many juvenile cases being treated by adult sentencing standards. According to the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Office, from 1994 to 2011, murders committed by juveniles had declined by two-thirds.[7] DiIulio and other researchers had argued that juvenile crime was out of control; however, research showed that juvenile crime began to decline in the early to mid 90s.[6] In 2012 DiIulio was among the authors of a amicus brief to the Supreme Court that made this clear.[6] Shortly, after in an interview with Retro Report, DiIulio stated, "once it was out there, there was no reeling it in."[8]
He was recognized in 2010 with two awards, the Ira Abrams Memorial Award and the Lindback Award for Distinguished Teaching, for excellence in academics and teaching.[9]
 
Before anyone tries to disqualify the question or divide it into 'neocon vs. conservatives', remember that Bush had like 90% or higher among conservatives, and had Fox News pulling for him. The same Fox News then as now, minus a few sexual harassers.

Lets also explain the Democratic support for the war. There was some Democratic support, which was gained by feeding them cooked intel... and only from centrists and center-right moderates. Remember, Ann Coulter famously said that Hillary Clinton was more conservative than McCain.


The liberal base was always vehemently against the Iraq war. We were called unpatriotic and worse, to the point of having to rename French Fries as 'Freedom Fries'.

Which side was right, all these years later?

All of the last Democrat Presidential nominees who were eligible at the time to vote on the 2003 AUMF voted for it along with a majority of Democrats in the Senate so save your "some Democrat support," nonsense. And as far as "cooked intel" goes, that is an absolute lie, the intel wasn't cooked it was the best National Intelligence Estimate of all 16 members of the Intelligence community, every claim that it was intentionally fabricated rather than inaccurate has been debunked from the Downing Street Memo forgery to Wilson and Plames bullshit assertions regarding yellow cake and Niger, on down.

Furthermore; you don't want to differentiate between neo-cons and conservatives which is BS but OK, but who you can not blame it on are Trumps' Buchananite economic nationalist base who were, also, vehemently opposed to the war and have less in common with neo-cons than neo-cons have in common with the left.
 
I said exactly what I meant.

He used urban stereo types to threaten me.

Hilary did not coin super predator.....she repeated it.

Super predator was around long before she said it.
OK I stand corrected, she made the term PC and popular.

Another reason why your called a racist.
I'll add that to my list of what makes me a racist. #10: hrc popularized the term super predators when referring to young black males Got it!:doh::)
(and you voted for her.) lol
 
OK I stand corrected, she made the term PC and popular.

I'll add that to my list of what makes me a racist. #10: hrc popularized the term super predators when referring to young black males Got it!:doh::)
(and you voted for her.) lol

Racist white wingers popularized the term by constantly pointing out that Hilary said it.

They were quietly taking out their check books when the real racist white man coined the term.

Will you admit that you either lied or are clueless about the term? You should be responsible and not put lies out there. You should admit you were wrong, like Hilary did when she repeated the phrase.
 
He's incorrect , then. Super predators refer to young black males, the PC term for them hrc coined in the '90's

This isn't directed at you but I'll explain it to you.

First off she is the one doing the threatening but of course after she does she now wants to pay the victim.

She may think she can threaten me because she wrongly thinks I'm some soft suburban kid but she's picked the wrong person.

You are correct that HRC said Super Predator but seeing as how I just said I'm 45 years old and never been in a fight that's about the opposite of a Super Predator so she is completely wrong. But because I don't fight doesn't mean I'm not going to stand up for my family.

She makes threats and is now crying victimhood and racism because someone stood up to her. That's her own issue.
 
I said exactly what I meant.

He used urban stereo types to threaten me.

Hilary did not coin super predator.....she repeated it.

Super predator was around long before she said it.

It was introduced during the drug war and the rise of for profit prisons that the racist white men implemented..

Another reason why your called a racist.

Oh fucking spare me, she brought it into the mainstream lexicon just like the bs birther narrative.
 
Racist white wingers popularized the term by constantly pointing out that Hilary said it.

More fucking lies, a) she brought the term into the mainstream lexicon and b) it was Obama not the right that used it against her in the primaries to solidify the black vote.
 
This isn't directed at you but I'll explain it to you.

First off she is the one doing the threatening but of course after she does she now wants to pay the victim.

She may think she can threaten me because she wrongly thinks I'm some soft suburban kid but she's picked the wrong person.

You are correct that HRC said Super Predator but seeing as how I just said I'm 45 years old and never been in a fight that's about the opposite of a Super Predator so she is completely wrong. But because I don't fight doesn't mean I'm not going to stand up for my family.

She makes threats and is now crying victimhood and racism because someone stood up to her. That's her own issue.

Show my threat.

What's taking so long?

wait.....

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you stood up to me?

Where?

If you mean by using violence against me, it further proves my point.

Too bad you just don't see it.
 
Why did Obama beat Hillary? Why wasn't Hillary able to get wide-spread support among liberals?

Why did Obama start a war in Libya and pave the way for the ISIl takeover of half of Iraq and Syria along with promoting the so called "Arab Spring" turned Islamist winter? Don't you dare pretend that Obama was not a nation building interventionist.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._DiIulio,_Jr.



Career[edit]
Previously, he served as the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives under President George W. Bush from early 2001 to August 2001. He was the first senior Bush advisor to resign and was succeeded by Jim Towey. In a letter written a little over a year after resigning (that later was printed in Esquire), he wrote that while "President Bush is a highly admirable person of enormous personal decency," his governing style allowed certain staffers, referred to as "Mayberry Machiavellis," to "[steer] legislative initiatives or policy proposals as far right as possible." [1] In late 2008 and early 2009, DiIulio consulted with the transition team of President Barack Obama regarding the restructuring of the White House faith-based initiative.[2]
DiIulio has authored numerous studies on crime, government, and the relationship between religion and public policy. He is also the co-author of the widely used textbook American Government with James Q. Wilson, which was reviewed by the publisher and the College Board after the discovery of factual inaccuracies and allegations of conservative bias regarding issues such as global warming, school prayer, and gay rights.[3] Among those who criticized the textbook was James E. Hansen, the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who wrote to the publisher that the book contained "a large number of clearly erroneous statements" which cause "the mistaken impression that the scientific evidence of global warming is doubtful and uncertain."[3]
He is also credited with coining, or at least popularizing, the term (and concept of) "superpredators" in reference to juvenile violent crime in the early 1990s.[4] Under this concept DiIulio and co-authors, William J. Bennett and John P. Walters, referred to America's youth as, "radically impulsive, [and] brutally remorseless youngsters..."[5]
Under this ideology DiIulio predicted that juvenile crime would triple by the year 2010.[6] This rapidly created a culture of fear of young people. The next few years resulted in a change of juvenile sentencing; which, would lead to many juvenile cases being treated by adult sentencing standards. According to the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Office, from 1994 to 2011, murders committed by juveniles had declined by two-thirds.[7] DiIulio and other researchers had argued that juvenile crime was out of control; however, research showed that juvenile crime began to decline in the early to mid 90s.[6] In 2012 DiIulio was among the authors of a amicus brief to the Supreme Court that made this clear.[6] Shortly, after in an interview with Retro Report, DiIulio stated, "once it was out there, there was no reeling it in."[8]
He was recognized in 2010 with two awards, the Ira Abrams Memorial Award and the Lindback Award for Distinguished Teaching, for excellence in academics and teaching.[9]

Nobody, I repeat nobody in mainstream America heard the term until Clinton brought it into the national lexicon.
 
Nobody, I repeat nobody in mainstream America heard the term until Clinton brought it into the national lexicon.

Liar.

The racist white man heard the term loud and clear, they coined it you stupid fuck. They made tons of money off of it. A lot of them, along with their corporations, are most of the 1% today.

You stupid mofo are just dump broke racist towing the line for them.

Get the fuck away from me.
 
This isn't directed at you but I'll explain it to you.

First off she is the one doing the threatening but of course after she does she now wants to pay the victim.

She may think she can threaten me because she wrongly thinks I'm some soft suburban kid but she's picked the wrong person.

You are correct that HRC said Super Predator but seeing as how I just said I'm 45 years old and never been in a fight that's about the opposite of a Super Predator so she is completely wrong. But because I don't fight doesn't mean I'm not going to stand up for my family.

She makes threats and is now crying victimhood and racism because someone stood up to her. That's her own issue.

Well that's nothing new. The only one on this entire board that doesn't understand that is the psycho desh.
 
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