The world needs to move on from American leadership.

Amadeus said:
The one thing Trump has taught the world is that America can no longer be trusted or counted on to lead responsibly. The world order -- and there should be a world order --cannot be led disproportionately by any one nation. The United Nations should be strengthened and retooled, and America's monetary contribution should be lessened along with their dominance. As a Canadian, I'd push my government to by-pass America as much as possible while retaining a friendly relationship as a trading partner. When NAFTA falls apart, and it probably will, simply offer America the same deal as NAFTA. And if they don't take it, offer a sweeter deal to Europe and Asia. That nuclear shield is nice and fine in theory, but with a madman like Trump threatening to press the button on an almost-daily basis, while wiping his ass with trade-deals and international agreements, Canada would be better off without it. Peace through strength is only as good as the partner wielding that strength, and it will never again have the same weight as it did under previous administrations.

Sorry, America. The world is breaking up with you. And the problem is you, not us.

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What a brief empire it was. Thanks Trump. Trump has had the singular effect in one year on the United States global status as did all the lead consumed by all the Romans over its final centuries. He has poisoned the nation.
Your feelings and logic are fully justified. I'm counting the days.
 
Amadeus said:
The one thing Trump has taught the world is that America can no longer be trusted or counted on to lead responsibly. The world order -- and there should be a world order --cannot be led disproportionately by any one nation. The United Nations should be strengthened and retooled, and America's monetary contribution should be lessened along with their dominance. As a Canadian, I'd push my government to by-pass America as much as possible while retaining a friendly relationship as a trading partner. When NAFTA falls apart, and it probably will, simply offer America the same deal as NAFTA. And if they don't take it, offer a sweeter deal to Europe and Asia. That nuclear shield is nice and fine in theory, but with a madman like Trump threatening to press the button on an almost-daily basis, while wiping his ass with trade-deals and international agreements, Canada would be better off without it. Peace through strength is only as good as the partner wielding that strength, and it will never again have the same weight as it did under previous administrations.

Sorry, America. The world is breaking up with you. And the problem is you, not us.

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Nothing in our Constitution states we are the worlds policeman

Personally we should put all countries on notice. You can defend yourselves from now on. Even Canada
 
Micawber said:
What a brief empire it was. Thanks Trump. Trump has had the singular effect in one year on the United States global status as did all the lead consumed by all the Romans over its final centuries. He has poisoned the nation.
Your feelings and logic are fully justified. I'm counting the days.
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The US will still be the world leader when the next president elected, quit you're hysterical whining.
 
Amadeus said:
The one thing Trump has taught the world is that America can no longer be trusted or counted on to lead responsibly. The world order -- and there should be a world order --cannot be led disproportionately by any one nation. The United Nations should be strengthened and retooled, and America's monetary contribution should be lessened along with their dominance. As a Canadian, I'd push my government to by-pass America as much as possible while retaining a friendly relationship as a trading partner. When NAFTA falls apart, and it probably will, simply offer America the same deal as NAFTA. And if they don't take it, offer a sweeter deal to Europe and Asia. That nuclear shield is nice and fine in theory, but with a madman like Trump threatening to press the button on an almost-daily basis, while wiping his ass with trade-deals and international agreements, Canada would be better off without it. Peace through strength is only as good as the partner wielding that strength, and it will never again have the same weight as it did under previous administrations.

Sorry, America. The world is breaking up with you. And the problem is you, not us.
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Enjoy Eurabia and your rapefugees, Europe is a dead civilization between the English channel and Poland.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I'm all for it. I'd be happy to withdraw troops from other nations, let NATO or whatever other treaties you have protect you and YOU can send your military in after terrorist targets. good luck.
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We need to make sure that we bring back every brick, piece of wire, section of plumbing, etc. with us.
Leave behind a barren landscape.
 
Amadeus said:
How is the US supporting Canada? Go ahead and explain that.
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If you had no trade with the U.S., you would have no economy for one. Lets add military protection to that. You lads rely on the fact that the U.S. has a powerful military and you just happen to benefit from that. The list goes on and on.
Seriously, do some research before yapping like a poodle.
 
Sailor said:
If you are "just" another country, you should be able to support yourself without the United States help. What is taking you so long?
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The comic book Canadian didn't quibble when Obama called out the Canucks, did he?

Barack Obama pressured Canada to increase its Nato spending.

President Trump has also been critical of laggard Nato nations. Canada currently spends 0.97% of its GDP on the military alliance, less than half the 2% benchmark.

Canada is last compared with its global peers when it comes to defense and aid spending, a new report says.

Ottawa came less than halfway to meeting international spending benchmarks in those areas. The Global Canada study uses those two funding areas to measure a country's global engagement. The analysis also suggests Canada's level of spending on international assistance as a share of GDP is close to an all-time low.

Trudeau made "Canada is back" a catchphrase after winning the federal election in 2015 and promised a new era of global engagement.
Global Canada founder Robert Greenhill, a former president of the federal development agency, said that Canada is not back, it is "far back".

The report, Assessing Canada's Global Engagement Gap, compares Canada's share of national income committed to collective security and to international assistance with that of other G7 nations and similar mid-sized, countries like Norway and Australia.

Canada and Japan were tied in last place by committing 1.2% of GDP to combined spending on defense and aid.

In comparison, the UK and Norway spent 2.6%, Germany spent 1.7% and Italy spent 1.5%.

The US spent 3.5%.

Looking at just foreign aid, the analysis, using the Gross National Income (GNI) measure, suggests the Liberal government's commitment to development is slightly lower than the spending average under Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government - 0.26 % of GNI compared to 0.30% GNI.

The international target for foreign aid spending is 0.70% of GNI.

Critics have repeatedly singled out Canada over the years for falling short on aid funding. Trudeau has said that United Nations target is "too ambitious" for Canada.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38573559
 
Sailor said:
If you had no trade with the U.S., you would have no economy for one.
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Incorrect. We trade with most countries, and I think Canada should sweeten the deal while decreasing our trade with America (remember, America needs Canada as a trading partner equally. In fact, you can't even reach Alaska without our say-so.)

Lets add military protection to that.
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Disagree. We don't need America's military any longer, if we ever did.
 
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