The NFL is killing the golden goose

Teflon Don

Teflon Don

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I know that the social justice warriors think that they are proving something with this weekends activities. But, I disagree and here is why. The simple reason is that even though the NFL is the most dominant sport right now, history has shown us that those types of things do not last forever.

All across our history, company's and franchises once thought to be dominant and unshakable have been knocked off of their perch

In the 70s it was the US auto industry
Remember when Sears Roebuck was the most dominant retailer?
How about Walmart?
And how about Major League Baseball? They thought they were invincible and the players stuck it to the fans and went on strike. Many fans left and never went back. Baseball has never fully recovered.


If the NFL does not get a handle on these protests and make no mistake this IS disrespectful to the flag and those who defend it and it IS NOT about the first amendment, it will erode their brand. This is Marketing 101. You cannot shit on your customer base and expect them to still be loyal. The Republican Party is learning that painful lesson right now.

Now because of Roy Moore's defeat of the establishment RINOS, I am in a particularly good mood and will lift thread bans except for Deshtard who will ALWAYS be thread banned. Let's see if you guys can handle it and act accordingly


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People who don't watch football are all for this misguided "protest which is fine but those that do follow it are not pleased and it's showing.
If the league ends up losing these people as baseball did that's a big hit to tv that people don't really see the impact of. But they will.
 
Here's the bigger question, though: if a multi-billion $ American business does diminish or even fade away because of this specifically...is that a "win" for Trump?
 
Thing1 said:
Here's the bigger question, though: if a multi-billion $ American business does diminish or even fade away because of this specifically...is that a "win" for Trump?
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Is it a win for America? Think of all the jobs associated with the NFL.
 
Covfefe said:
Is it a win for America? Think of all the jobs associated with the NFL.
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This whole fabricated "crisis" got me thinking about just that. It's immense. People think it's just the teams & the workers at stadiums. Games are like small economies unto themselves - so many local businesses that benefit from the increased traffic. And then there is merch, media, internet, etc. And last, think of all of the small businesses like sports bars that aren't even in NFL cities - there are at least a dozen just in my area that rely on that Sunday boom time for clientele & revenue in the fall.

Go, Trump! MAGA
 
Thing1 said:
This whole fabricated "crisis" got me thinking about just that. It's immense. People think it's just the teams & the workers at stadiums. Games are like small economies unto themselves - so many local businesses that benefit from the increased traffic. And then there is merch, media, internet, etc. And last, think of all of the small businesses like sports bars that aren't even in NFL cities - there are at least a dozen just in my area that rely on that Sunday boom time for clientele & revenue in the fall.

Go, Trump! MAGA
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Charities, foundations, it is a behemoth, you are correct, these simple minded people who wish to see it fail have no idea how many would be impacted, Super Bowl is a bigger day for food and beverage than some holidays.
 
Covfefe said:
Charities, foundations, it is a behemoth, you are correct, these simple minded people who wish to see it fail have no idea how many would be impacted, Super Bowl is a bigger day for food and beverage than some holidays.
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It's insane to hear some talk about teaching the "spoiled, overpaid millionaires" a lesson. Beyond myopic.
 
people are too addicted to football for it to go anywhere, not should it, but a short term ratings drop is doable
 
This Sunday should be interesting, you know the protest is going to continue and the right wing media and demogogues are going to eat it up, the President is no dummy, he knew his orchestrated "controversy" will keep giving till at least December, his mixing race and patriotism just at the right time is actually brillant
 
Covfefe said:
Is it a win for America? Think of all the jobs associated with the NFL.
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I love sports and am a huge sports fan but taking the emotion out of it and looking strictly at the economics:



Are pro sports teams economic winners for cities?


There are a lot of things economists disagree about, but the economic impact of sports stadiums isn't one of them.

“If you ever had a consensus in economics, this would be it," says Michael Leeds, a sports economist at Temple University. "There is no impact."

Leeds studied Chicago – as big a sports town as there is, with five major teams.

“If every sports team in Chicago were to suddenly disappear, the impact on the Chicago economy would be a fraction of 1 percent,” Leeds says. “A baseball team has about the same impact on a community as a midsize department store.”

That’s for a sport with 80 home games a year. NFL teams only play eight regular season games. Still, politicians love building sports stadiums.

“Yes, we will have the NFL back in Los Angeles!” shouted Carson City Councilwoman Lula Davis-Holmes at a rally last month, celebrating plans for a new stadium housing the Chargers and Raiders that would be built in this small city 15 miles south of downtown.

“Stand to your feet and say we want the teams here, for jobs, for revenue, and for our young people,” Holmes said.

Down the freeway, next to Los Angeles International Airport, Inglewood is trying to stay one step ahead of Carson. So last month, its City Council approved plans to build the most expensive stadium in U.S. sports history.

Inglewood – one of poorest neighborhoods in LA — projects a football stadium would generate more than $800 million dollars worth of economic activity a year.

But Victor Matheson, a sports economist at College of the Holy Cross, is dubious.

“A good rule of thumb that economists use is to take what stadium boosters are telling you and move that one decimal place to the left, and that’s usually a good estimate of what you’re going to get,” Matheson says.

Economists say the biggest reason sports teams don’t have much impact is that they don’t tend to spur new spending. Most people have a limited entertainment budget, so the dollars they are spending when they go to a game is money they would have spent elsewhere, maybe even at a restaurant or small businesses where more money would have stayed in the community. Plus, Matheson says, rather than draw people to a neighborhood, games can actually repel them.

“Sporting events can cause significant crowds and congestion that can cause people to stop going to other events in the area,” he says.

That’s part of the reason why a 2003 analysis on Staples Center commissioned by the Los Angeles City Controller included a surprising finding.

“Economic activity in Inglewood actually increased when the Lakers left town,” says Matheson.

That is, sales tax revenue went up when the Lakers and Kings moved to Staples Center in 1999.

Chris Meany, who’s leading development of the Inglewood stadium site, strongly disagrees that Inglewood benefited from the Kings and Lakers leaving.

“To argue that Inglewood is better off because downtown L.A. took the Lakers and Kings is to stretch credulity,” says Meany.

Inglewood's mayor, James Butts, says even if the economic impact isn’t as good as advertised, building a stadium poses a win/win for taxpayers.

“There’s a lot of numbers floated about but whatever the numbers are, here’s the bottom line: The city is protected,” says Butts. “In every stadium deal you look at before this one the risk is borne by the city. In this case, the risk is borne by the developers.”

That’s not true in Missouri, where politicians are desperately trying to keep the Rams from moving to Inglewood. Governor Jay Nixon announced a plan that would give the team $400 million to stay.

Because as politically popular as it can be to attract a team, it’s seen as political suicide to let one get away.


https://www.marketplace.org/2015/03/19/business/are-pro-sports-teams-economic-winners-cities
 
archives said:
This Sunday should be interesting, you know the protest is going to continue and the right wing media and demogogues are going to eat it up, the President is no dummy, he knew his orchestrated "controversy" will keep giving till at least December, his mixing race and patriotism just at the right time is actually brillant
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I mean, does anyone doubt that this is pure, cynical calculation from Trump? The master of the shiny object.

I just shake my head at anyone who can't see through it at this point. He's done it his whole career, throughout his campaign and all through his young Presidency. It's who he is, and what he does. And people think he cares about the flag or the anthem.
 
Thing1 said:
It's insane to hear some talk about teaching the "spoiled, overpaid millionaires" a lesson. Beyond myopic.
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It's simple petty jealousy.

Anyone who uses the term "spoiled, overpaid millionaires" to describe players who kneel, is suffering from a serious case of class envy.

They are jealous that someone they deem unworthy is showered with wealth and fame.

Now they've found an situation that they can use to justify their sanctimonious jealousy.
 
Thing1 said:
Here's the bigger question, though: if a multi-billion $ American business does diminish or even fade away because of this specifically...is that a "win" for Trump?
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as much as you want it to be, this isn't about Trump for me. This is about the left infecting yet another American institution for the purposes of dividing our country

I never said it would "fade away" or disappear forever, but on its current trajectory it will cease to be the preeminent sport it has been. Now what is ironic is that the left has attacked the NFL for years until they all of a sudden decided to disrespect the flag and the country. Surprised? I'm not

This isn't just about the NFL losing money, but there will be downstream impact to small businesses that rely on the NFL. But it is what it is.
 
Thing1 said:
It's insane to hear some talk about teaching the "spoiled, overpaid millionaires" a lesson. Beyond myopic.
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Isn't the left ALL about teaching "spoiled overpaid millionaires a lesson"? How ironic coming from you. Nobody WANTS to see the NFL decline. That is not my stated desire. I didn't wake up one day and ask myself, how can I tear down the NFL. I woke up to leftists infiltrating an institution I loved. I will not watch as long as they are kneeling.
 
Thing1 said:
I mean, does anyone doubt that this is pure, cynical calculation from Trump? The master of the shiny object.

I just shake my head at anyone who can't see through it at this point. He's done it his whole career, throughout his campaign and all through his young Presidency. It's who he is, and what he does. And people think he cares about the flag or the anthem.
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You are right, Trump forced Kaepernick to start doing this last year. How could I have missed that?
 
Teflon Don said:
Isn't the left ALL about teaching "spoiled overpaid millionaires a lesson"? How ironic coming from you. Nobody WANTS to see the NFL decline. That is not my stated desire. I didn't wake up one day and ask myself, how can I tear down the NFL. I woke up to leftists infiltrating an institution I loved. I will not watch as long as they are kneeling.
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Can you tell me where I've done that or advocated for it?
 
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