What makes you more upset....

Jarod said:
Its a hallmark of facisim to insist that a national sport be connected to patriotism and required displays of affection for the Government.
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EXACTLY!!! I never understood why the anthem is played at these events.

To protest trump the Steelers stayed in the locker room while it was being played. Good for them!
 
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God bless America said:
You're a condemned hypocrite, Christiecrite, and a proven liar. If you say something, that's a good reason for me to doubt it.

Your mewling mantra is 'DEMOCRAT good, Republican bad', and that's how shallow you are, Christiecrite.
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You're just a shit-stirrer who deflected because you know what you'd find if you looked up those posts. So show it or stow it. :rofl2:
 
noise said:
sorry Mott. this isn't some individual decisions to ignore the anthem.
It's an organized political movement ( by a bunch of spoiled millionaires) .

If they want to help fight racism, do something productive,
not disrespect the flag and the entire country for which it stands.

They can donate their time and money to help inner city Baltimore for ex.
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I don't need my patriotism force-fed. trump's comments were 100% wrong. This isn't a police state and we don't fire people for symbolic speech.
 
christiefan915 said:
I don't need my patriotism force-fed. trump's comments were 100% wrong. This isn't a police state and we don't fire people for symbolic speech.
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Making a suggestion is nowhere near forcing anyone or else the kneeling idiots would have been arrested. I think we need to define police state before this nonsense goes any further. Good grief, the language and insults against a sitting prez you guys get away with and you dare to utter the words "police state"?
 
Lovebug said:
Making a suggestion is nowhere near forcing anyone or else the kneeling idiots would have been arrested. I think we need to define police state before this nonsense goes any further. Good grief, the language and insults against a sitting prez you guys get away with and you dare to utter the words "police state"?
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Even making the suggestion is uncalled-for. We don't punish people for protesting the flag, the anthem or any other symbol. SCOTUS ruled in favor of allowing protestors to burn the flag several decades ago, for instance. Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989)
 
Jarod said:
If Nazi's and KKK marching in the streets makes you less upset than a man taking a knee during the national anthem,



There is something wrong with you! Some very good people take a knee during the national anthem.
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Why should the bill of rights upset anyone? There is a right to speak in order to piss you off. It takes a childish mind to be upset by anyone expressing their political or religious view. Personally I express the view that there are simply to many 30-70 year adolescents that refuse to grow up while living in their snowflake reality....many on this board.
 
free speech applies to actions free from government arrests/interference.
Private corp can hire and fire at will as long as it's not discrimination
 
noise said:
free speech applies to actions free from government arrests/interference.
Private corp can hire and fire at will as long as it's not discrimination
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Reality: Living in the real world. "If" pro players like Colin Kaepernick would have continued to throw TDs while leading his team to the championship playoffs......he could have run unto the field buck naked while holding a burning US flag... the management nor the fans would've gave a damn, its all about the bottom line, some people are allowed to speak more freely than others depending upon the "hierarchy" within the particular societal system.
 
Ralph said:
Reality: Living in the real world. "If" pro players like Colin Kaepernick would have continued to throw TDs while leading his team to the championship playoffs......he could have run unto the field buck naked while holding a burning US flag... the management nor the fans would've gave a damn, its all about the bottom line, some people are allowed to speak more freely than others depending upon the "hierarchy" within the particular societal system.
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again that is a private business decision,and so called free speech doesn't apply either way
 
christiefan915 said:
Even making the suggestion is uncalled-for. We don't punish people for protesting the flag, the anthem or any other symbol. SCOTUS ruled in favor of allowing protestors to burn the flag several decades ago, for instance. Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989)
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But we should punish people for assembling, right?
 
Over privileged boys upset with cops dealing with black people take a knee over the national anthem. It do want even make any sense. If they are that embarrassed over their good fortune them hire some lawyer's for their less fortunate kin.
If George Soros wants to hire fake skinheads to do battle with fake fascists in Charlottesville, its his money.
 
God bless America said:
I see. It seemed to me that you said you'd quoted someone who was connected with the government when you answered Truth Detector's question.

My mistake. For a minute I wondered if TheDonald was really THE Donald. :rofl2:
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Please. Re-read. I did not. I quoted a guy who suggested a government solution to the problem. Your "gotcha" needs more "gotcha".
 
TheDonald said:
What if people take a knee and say that they are not paying taxes to the US Flag?

Hmmm

Does the first amendment protect that?
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Who is doing that? Or do you think nonsense hypotheticals are a valid form of argument? They "might" stop paying taxes, and they disagree with you, so we should use government power to kick them out though they have every right to disagree with you? I think you have no idea what the constitution is or what it means.
 
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