The Teachers Union’s Public Enemy No. 1

[cawacko]

You have stats to support that? All the teachers I know send their kids to public schools, usually the ones they teach at.

So, who knows better than teachers what students need? My teachers always complain about administration and school boards not knowing what students need.

Teachers teach, they aren't the ones making policy. You get the difference between the Unions and the teachers?

 

[Phantasmal]

For themselves, yes. Thus the conflict of interest

My teacher friend care very much for their students, not just themselves.

 

[cawacko]

My teacher friend care very much for their students, not just themselves.

You're missing the big picture here

 

[Phantasmal]

You think I can afford $30-$40K/yr starting in pre-school? Any idea where this money is I supposedly have?

Oh, come on, some private schools must be cheaper than that, otherwise, how could public school
teachers afford to send their kids?

 

[Phantasmal]

Let's be clear, I'm speaking about the teacher unions. I'm not commenting specifically about individual teachers.

As far as public policy goes the teacher unions have the most power so they will get discussed the most.

You have a lot to learn, school boards are the one with the power, doesn't your wife teach?

 

[Phantasmal]

You're missing the big picture here

No, I'm afraid you are the one, I dealt with a school system for over 20 years. I know that school boards are the ones with the power. I never dealt with unions over curriculum!

 

[cawacko]

No, I'm afraid you are the one, I dealt with a school system for over 20 years. I know that school boards are the ones with the power. I never dealt with unions over curriculum!

Who has control over whether charter schools can open in cities?

 

[Bill]

You have a lot to learn, school boards are the one with the power, doesn't your wife teach?

Exactly...

 

[Phantasmal]

Who has control over whether charter schools can open in cities?

Schoolboards

 

[MAGA MAN]

Schoolboards

Under no pressure from the union...

 

[cawacko]

Schoolboards

State education agencies and unions

 

[Phantasmal]

State education agencies and unions

Not in any state I ever lived in, where's your proof?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

De Vos is a neophyte with little political experience who advocates for guns in schools.

she's a former head of the Michigan Republican Party, her husband ran for governor.....I think she can handle politics........and she has spoken in favor of arming security guards and faculty.......is your latest strawman "guns in schools"......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yeah, for some reasons teachers don't want to
lose their benefits and wages, why do you fault them?

we don't fault them.....we just don't plan to give in to them......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Those who you think 'don't want to give up their monopoly.'

it doesn't matter if they want to give it up.....its being taken away......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Teacher unions are made up of teachers, don't you think they know what is best?

????....about how much they should be paid and whether they can be fired for incompetence?.......fuck no......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

No, it was indeed the obvious.

De Vos is on the hot seat and there will be plenty of pressure coming her way.

you mean the death threats and attacks?......its okay, she's been given extra security to protect her from the teacher's union thugs.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

There are many, many problems w/ these school systems, including the assholes that run them, the parents, kids, laws, money etc etc etc... Or did you not know that??

can we fire the assholes who are employees and let the parents take their children out of systems run by assholes?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Oddly enough I only hear you bitching about teachers & none of the other contributing factors...

if money is a factor why are the most expensive schools among the worst?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Who should run it??

how about letting the parents choose which schools they want for their kids?......