Sentor Flake (R-Az): "I wish the GOP had stood up to birtherism"

[Darth Omar]

ISIS was created because of an idealogical split with Al Queda.

People get called liars for less lol.

Do you fault Obama for anything? ISIS was allowed to grow and proliferate *under Obama* and on Obama's watch. Now, scurry off to Politifact or wherever and see if that's wrong.

 

[cawacko]

why is this in current events......it ought to be in "reliving arguments from ten years ago"......

It's a Republican Senator talking about how the Republican Party got to where we are today. That is definitely a current event.

 

[Darth Omar]

Republicans don't stand up to Mueller because they know he is doing the job which he was appointed to do.

Which is to investigate Russian influence, 'possible collusion' [that's my favorite lol] and possible obstruction of justice. Those are the possible crimes Mueller should be investigating.

Anything is else is beyond his mandate. The only excuse congressional republicans have in not reigning Mueller...wait, they have no excuse.

 

[cawacko]

There was a question of whether Obama was born in the states. Hillary started it. Private citizen Trump and some on the right picked up on it. Most republicans, myself included, didn't give it much credence. Obama, seeing an opportunity to use the issue as a political tool, withheld his BC to keep it going.

End of story. It pegs my 'I don't care meter'.

It had little to do with where we are today. What got us here, are weak republicans. As I pointed out, they should be voting to reign in Mueller's investigation and hold him to his 'Russia only' mandate instead of voting to hamstring Trump on it.

That's the sort of thing that got us to this point. I marvel that more people don't see it.

To each his own as to how they feel about birther-ism and you have every right not to give two sh*ts. But let's be honest, there's no way Obama takes office if he wasn't born in the U.S. He had no reason to show his BC after the movement started. And the fact that a future President was involved in it is mind boggling.

This conspiracy type stuff has taken hold of a certain wing of the party and that's what Flake is referring to.

 

[anatta]

Which is to investigate Russian influence, 'possible collusion' [that's my favorite lol] and possible obstruction of justice. Those are the possible crimes Mueller should be investigating.

Anything is else is beyond his mandate. The only excuse congressional republicans have in not reigning Mueller...wait, they have no excuse.

bunch of jerks. the establishment Republicans are more worthless then the Democratic partisans.
They whine and do nothing

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It's a Republican Senator talking about how the Republican Party got to where we are today. That is definitely a current event.

its another NeverTrumper whining about last November......it may be current but its not an event.......

 

[anatta]

Who cares about birtherism.

Why don't republicans stand up to Mueller?

#nevertrump swamp weasels..say what you want to about the Dems but they have party unity

 

[anatta]

its another NeverTrumper whining about last November......it may be current but its not an event.......

he musta wrote a book or something or else they don't say anything

 

[cawacko]

Bush owns Iraq as much as anyone can own a war. Shifting blame to Hillary is an absolute joke. The neocons made the entire case upon which those who were convinced voted. Fraud wasn't perpetrated by Hillary. It was by Bush mach2. She was a victim as much as the rest of us. The other person to blame was Hussein, for it is his government that failed to account for his weapon destruction properly making it impossible for his regime to allay grave doubts about compliance with bunches of UN resolutions.

Let's be clear here, i'm not blaming Hillary for us going into Iraq. What I wrote was pretty clear. And let's also be clear Hillary is no victim. She knew more than anyone but basically the President before she made her vote.

 

[anatta]

Bush owns Iraq as much as anyone can own a war. Shifting blame to Hillary is an absolute joke. The neocons made the entire case upon which those who were convinced voted. Fraud wasn't perpetrated by Hillary. It was by Bush mach2. She was a victim as much as the rest of us. The other person to blame was Hussein, for it is his government that failed to account for his weapon destruction properly making it impossible for his regime to allay grave doubts about compliance with bunches of UN resolutions.

you'd have a point if it wasn't for Libya and Syria, so you don't / she's a neocon

 

[anatta]

Of course he doesn't even know that.

And this new lie:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...nt-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

This authorization doesn't fit the slogan "Russia only." It is Russian meddling by thoroughly investigating any links to Trump.
Finances would be a type of link. Too bad, we are blowing his books open, and if a crime has been committed in plain sight in those books,
the authorization is to indict even if it has nothing to do with Russia at all. Of course they'd like it to say "Russia only" but that's a Fox news creation
force fed to these ignorant geese to make their livers soft and juicy for harvesting.

it's an open ended witch hunt.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

it's an open ended witch hunt.

I don't think you understand what "witch hunt" means.

 

[anatta]

I don't think you understand what "witch hunt" means.

ya ya. It's the nature of a special prosecutor to spiderweb outwards..look at Ken star

 

[Phantasmal]

People get called liars for less lol.

Do you fault Obama for anything? ISIS was allowed to grow and proliferate *under Obama* and on Obama's watch. Now, scurry off to Politifact or wherever and see if that's wrong.

Oh, you're peeved I shut down your bs with facts, oh well!

 

[Darth Omar]

I don't think you understand what "witch hunt" means.

Apart from the fact Trump isn't a witch it's pretty accurate.

Or maybe you can tell the class what an actual witch hunt would look like.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

ya ya. It's the nature of a special prosecutor to spiderweb outwards..look at Ken star

What Ken Starr did had nothing to do w/ the investigation that is underway.

 

[anatta]

What Ken Starr did had nothing to do w/ the investigation that is underway.

duh..i'm speaking about Special prosecutors in general

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Apart from the fact Trump isn't a witch it's pretty accurate.

Or maybe you can tell the class what an actual witch hunt would look like.

A "witch hunt" is baseless.

You guys keep trying to portray this investigation as baseless, but it is not. Democrats didn't start it. Russia DID meddle in this election, and we now know about Jr's meeting. I don't know what will happen w/ it eventually, but there will be hundreds of "witch hunt" posts from you & yours that will be fun to bump if they turn up something substantial.

 

[anatta]

A "witch hunt" is baseless.

You guys keep trying to portray this investigation as baseless, but it is not. Democrats didn't start it. Russia DID meddle in this election, and we now know about Jr's meeting. I don't know what will happen w/ it eventually, but there will be hundreds of "witch hunt" posts from you & yours that will be fun to bump if they turn up something substantial.

we are way past "Russian meddling" if all the financial creeps involved are an indication

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

duh..i'm speaking about Special prosecutors in general

Sorry - it's what happens w/ investigations. Right now, they're following the money - which is where I thought the motivation would be from the beginning.

I'm sure it makes you uncomfortable. You have staked out such an extreme position on this, with such frequent posting, that I doubt you'll ever come around JPP again if this investigation is fruitful.