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You are both incorrect that Crowdstrike is the only one who has confirmed hack by Russia, there are two others Fidelis Cybersecurity and Mandiant.

But why not let the FBI examine it, unless the DNC has something to hide?

Maybe even something to do with the millionaire Pakistani IT guy.

Republicans should call for a separate SP.
 
As*The Hill*reported in January:


The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.
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The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.
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“We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.

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Report (JAR) “Grizzly Steppe” was released yesterday as part of the*White House’s response*to alleged Russian government interference in the 2016 election process.*It adds nothing to the call for evidence that the Russian government was responsible for hacking the DNC, the DCCC, the email accounts of Democratic party officials, or for delivering the content of those hacks to Wikileaks.
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It merely listed every threat group ever reported on by a commercial cybersecurity company that is suspected of being Russian-made and lumped them under the heading of Russian Intelligence Services (RIS) without providing any supporting evidence that such a connection exists.
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Unlike Crowdstrike, ESET doesn’t assign APT28/Fancy Bear/Sednit to a Russian Intelligence Service or anyone else for a very simple reason.*Once malware is deployed, it is no longer under the control of the hacker who deployed it or the developer who created it.*It can be reverse-engineered, copied, modified, shared and redeployed again and again by anyone. In other words?—?malware deployed is malware enjoyed!
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If ESET could do it, so can others. It is both foolish and baseless to claim, as Crowdstrike does, that X-Agent is used solely by the Russian government when the source code is there for anyone to find and use at will.
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If the White House had unclassified evidence that tied officials in the Russian government to the DNC attack, they would have presented it by now. The fact that they didn’t means either that the evidence doesn’t exist or that it is classified.
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If it’s classified, an independent commission should review it because this entire assignment of blame against the Russian government is looking more and more like a domestic political operation run by the White House that relied heavily on questionable intelligence generated by a for-profit cybersecurity firm with a vested interest in selling “attribution-as-a-service
This doesn't answer my questions
 
duplicate analysis of Crowdstrike..Ive gone over this this million times.
There is no good reason for the FBI not to do independent forensics

It wasn't an independent occurrence, complementing this hack they already had proof of Russian attempts to hack State election records, initiating media fabrications, and history of similar attempts in previous European elections, it was a tsunami of evidence pointing directly at Russia
 
But why not let the FBI examine it, unless the DNC has something to hide?

Maybe even something to do with the millionaire Pakistani IT guy.

Republicans should call for a separate SP.
It very well could be that, but it isn't that the Russian hack is a hoax as annatta continues to claim.
 
This doesn't answer my questions
the entire thing is based on Crowdstrike's assessment..why did the DNC resuse to turn it over?
Even Comey had no good answer..

This is basic procedure..also crowdstrike has screwed up before.. readthe link
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...ussia-hacked-dnc-comes-under-serious-question
Are all U.S. government agencies simply listening to what Crowdstike said in coming to their “independent” conclusions that Russia hacked the DNC? If so, that’s a huge problem. Particularly considering what Voice of America published yesterday in a piece titled,*Cyber Firm at Center of Russian Hacking Charges Misread Data:


An influential British think tank and Ukraine’s military are disputing a report that the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has used to buttress its claims of Russian hacking in the presidential election.
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The*CrowdStrike report, released in December, asserted that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, resulting in heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine’s war with Russian-backed separatists.
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But the*International Institute for Strategic Studies*(IISS) told VOA that CrowdStrike erroneously used IISS data as proof of the intrusion. IISS disavowed any connection to the CrowdStrike report. Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense also has claimed combat losses and hacking never happened.
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The challenges to CrowdStrike’s credibility are significant because the firm was the first to link last year’s hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors, and because CrowdStrike co-founder Dimiti Alperovitch has trumpeted its Ukraine report as more evidence of Russian election tampering.
 
You are both incorrect that Crowdstrike is the only one who has confirmed hack by Russia, there are two others Fidelis Cybersecurity and Mandiant.

document the fact that those two investigated the DNC computers, then document who told them what to say.....
 
But why not let the FBI examine it, unless the DNC has something to hide?

Maybe even something to do with the millionaire Pakistani IT guy.

Republicans should call for a separate SP.

no one is keeping the FBI from investigating anything asshole.


they only investigate things that show evidence of a crime.


your shit is being investigated because a crime took place
 
It wasn't an independent occurrence, complementing this hack they already had proof of Russian attempts to hack State election records, initiating media fabrications, and history of similar attempts in previous European elections, it was a tsunami of evidence pointing directly at Russia

no......it was an employee of the DNC telling the FBI......
 
It very well could be that, but it isn't that the Russian hack is a hoax as annatta continues to claim.
tighten up your language if you want to represent my characterizations.

I claim serious doubts, based on flawed methodology of attribution by malware
( like malware can't be copied and used by others??) without FBI/government looking at the source..

we are completely dependent on Crowdstrike and Deep State's hostility to Russia
( Clapper non-classified assessment) as impeccable
 
tighten up your language if you want to represent my characterizations.

I claim serious doubts, based on flawed methodology of attribution by malware
( like malware can't be copied and used by others??) without FBI/government looking at the source..

we are completely dependent on Crowdstrike and Deep State's hostility to Russia
( Clapper non-classified assessment) as impeccable

why did you change your name
 
tighten up your language if you want to represent my characterizations.

I claim serious doubts, based on flawed methodology of attribution by malware
( like malware can't be copied and used by others??) without FBI/government looking at the source..

we are completely dependent on Crowdstrike and Deep State's hostility to Russia
( Clapper non-classified assessment) as impeccable
So, why would three agencies lie? You still haven't answered my questions.
 
Crowdstrike founder Alperovitch is a Nonresident Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council, and head honcho of its “Cyber Statecraft Initiative” – of which his role in promoting the “Putin did it” scenario is a Exhibit A. James Carden, writing in The Nation, makes the trenchant point that

“The connection between Alperovitch and the Atlantic Council has gone largely unremarked upon, but it is relevant given that the Atlantic Council – which is funded in part by the US State Department, NATO, the governments of Latvia and Lithuania, the Ukrainian World Congress, and the Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk – has been among the loudest voices calling for a new Cold War with Russia.”

Adam Johnson, writing on the FAIR blog, adds to our knowledge by noting that the Council’s budget is also supplemented by “a consortium of Western corporations (Qualcomm, Coca-Cola, The Blackstone Group), including weapons manufacturers (Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman) and oil companies (ExxonMobil, Shell, Chevron, BP).”

Johnson also notes that CrowdStrike currently has a $150,000 / year, no-bid contract with the FBI for “systems analysis.”
Nice work if you can get it.

This last little tidbit gives us some insight into what is perhaps the most curious aspect of the Russian-hackers-campaign-for-Trump story: the FBI’s complete dependence on Crowdstrike’s analysis. Amazingly, the FBI did no independent forensic work on the DNC servers before Crowdstrike got its hot little hands on them: indeed, the DNC denied the FBI access to the servers, and, as far as anyone knows, the FBI never examined them. BuzzFeed quotes an anonymous “intelligence official” as saying “Crowdstrike is pretty good. There’s no reason to believe that anything they have concluded is not accurate.”
There is now.
Alperovitch is scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee, and one wonders if our clueless – and technically challenged – Republican members of Congress will question him about the debunking of Crowdstrike’s rush to judgment. I tend to doubt it, since the Russia-did-it meme is now the Accepted Narrative and no dissent is permitted – to challenge it would make them “Putin apologists”! (Although maybe Trey Gowdy, the only GOPer on that panel who seems to have any brains, may surprise me.)
As I’ve been saying for months, there is no evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC: none, zilch, nada. Yet this false narrative is the entire basis of a campaign launched by the Democrats, hailed by the Trump-hating media, and fully endorsed by the FBI and the CIA, the purpose of which is to “prove” that Trump is “Putin’s puppet,” as Hillary Clinton put it. Now the investigative powers of the federal government are being deployed to confirm that the Trump campaign “colluded” with the Kremlin in an act the evidence for which is collapsing.
This whole affair is a vicious fraud. If there is any justice in this world – and there may not be – the perpetrators should be charged, tried, and jailed.
 
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So, why would three agencies lie? You still haven't answered my questions.
you are intelligent. I shouldn't have to spoon feed you conclusions.

I've given you plenty of evidence of doubt. Only the FBI does the forensics that the assessment is based on -and they didn't even do tht.
The CIA and the NSA basically went along for the ride.

do you want my assessment?
start here

Yet this false narrative is the entire basis of a campaign launched by the Democrats, hailed by the Trump-hating media, and fully endorsed by the FBI and the CIA, the purpose of which is to “prove” that Trump is “Putin’s puppet,” as Hillary Clinton put it. Now the investigative powers of the federal government are being deployed to confirm that the Trump campaign “colluded” with the Kremlin in an act the evidence for which is collapsing.
This whole affair is a vicious fraud.
 
duplicate analysis of Crowdstrike..Ive gone over this this million times.
There is no good reason for the FBI not to do independent forensics

Quite the busy little Russia bot, aren't you? Crowdstrike reportedly shared all they had with the FBI. And no, the claim that Russia interfered with the U.S. election isn't (solely) dependent on whether Russia hacked the DNC servers, your wild-eyed proclamations to the contrary notwithstanding. And no, the CIA and the NSA didn't merely go along for the ride.

Of course, there are good reasons for the FBI not to do independent forensics, ranging from not wasting public funds to do duplicate work, to the privacy rights even the DNC enjoys, even though your authoritarian leanings would love to see such rights to go away, and the government to have access to whatever they want to scrutinize.

Why don't you just waddle off, bot?
 
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