As democrats plan for 2018 and beyond, they would be wise to keep Sanders at distance

Interesting/funny/not surprising that Desh doesn't think any democrat would support someone other than Hillary unless they were tricked. And five democrats/liberals on this board claimed to support Bernie in the primaries and not one will tell Desh they weren't fooled by the Russians, they actually supported him.

I know this is a "team" sport but still. Not one democrat will stand up for themselves on this?
 
Sorry man but this is a softball. Anyone who supports socialism fell for it

What are you talking about? I'm a socialist .. I didn't fall for it.

Members of the DSA, Democratic Socialists of America didn't fall for it.

WSW, World Socialist Website doesn't even think Sanders is a real socialist.

Is Bernie Sanders a socialist?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/07/16/sand-j16.html

I'm afraid that you, like most Americans, don't have a clue about what socialism is or what the movement supports.
 
Interesting/funny/not surprising that Desh doesn't think any democrat would support someone other than Hillary unless they were tricked. And five democrats/liberals on this board claimed to support Bernie in the primaries and not one will tell Desh they weren't fooled by the Russians, they actually supported him.

I know this is a "team" sport but still. Not one democrat will stand up for themselves on this?

So confused.
 
I suggest we put the heat on Sanders to 'mind his manners' AND reach out to issue-oriented progressives to re-energize the base. I suggest that rather be 'they' than 'who.'

So no one particular in mind, then....just whomever steps up to the plate with a decent platform that's not the SOS. I can dig it.
 
Bernie refused to tell his minions that they were believing lies about hillary.


He USED my party and acted dishonorabley
 
he used our party to run

he promised to stay decent

He them allowed his people to believe LIES he knew were lies


russia targeted the bernie people

ITS FACT

that is why for a time the bernie bots were saying they would vote for trumpy over hillary


remember when everyone was puzzled why bernie bots were saying things trumpy people were saying
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ussia-investigation-fake-news-hillary-clinton


Many websites producing anti-Clinton fake news were based in Albania and Macedonia. A pro-Sanders Facebook page with nearly 90,000 followers was run by an Albanian IT expert who, when interviewed by the Huffington Post, appeared to speak very little English, although his page consistently published polished English prose.
Mattes, a former Senate investigator, did some digging into the sudden phenomenon of eastern European Sanders enthusiasts. He found a spike in activity on the anonymous browsing tool Tor in Macedonia that coincided with the launch of the fake news campaign, which he believes could represent Russian handlers contacting potential east European hosts to help them set up automated websites.
“This is a cost-effective hands-free method with no blowback to you if you are in St Petersburg creating this product,” Mattes said. He argued that if the pro-Sanders websites in east Europe had been primarily motivated by maximising clicks they would have moved on to another viral subject.
 
So confused.

Not confused at all. I listened to plenty of KPFA free speech radio during the primaries enough to know not all Bernie voters were ready to fully back Hillary and there were legitimate differences between the groups. Differences in a primary is nothing new of course but they also weren't something minor either.
 
http://www.salon.com/2017/03/31/fak...ers-supporters-to-spread-conspiracy-theories/
Friday, Mar 31, 2017 02:48 PM PDT
Fake news websites targeted Trump, Bernie Sanders supporters to spread conspiracy theories
It turns out that Bernie Bros and Trump supporters have something in common: Russian trolls


As a certified Twitter addict who is also fond of conspiracy theories, President Donald Trump has become an easy target for foreign intelligence agencies looking to peddle falsehoods to him, a former FBI agent told the Senate intelligence committee on Thursday.

Clint Watts, a senior fellow at Center for Cyber and Homeland Security at George Washington University, told committee members that during the 2016 presidential campaign season, Trump routinely recycled conspiracy theories which were promoted by spurious news websites which are openly operated by the Russian government.
According to Watts, both Trump and the websites feed off of each other to promote false beliefs through a system of propaganda which was called “active measures” by the former Soviet Union. Russian President Vladimir Putin worked as a spy for the communist dictatorship’s KGB intelligence service.
Trump has “made claims of voter fraud, that President Obama’s not a citizen and, you know, Congressman [Ted] Cruz is not a citizen,” Watts told committee members. “Part of the reason active measures works, and it does today in terms of Trump Tower being wiretapped, is because they parrot the same lines.”
Such theories have been around long before social media but the popularity of social media has made their propagation much easier. Conservative Americans, who have long hated and distrusted the mainstream press, are particularly vulnerable to misinformation.

this
 
he used our party to run

he promised to stay decent

He them allowed his people to believe LIES he knew were lies


russia targeted the bernie people

ITS FACT

that is why for a time the bernie bots were saying they would vote for trumpy over hillary


remember when everyone was puzzled why bernie bots were saying things trumpy people were saying

Please give us all a fact based, valid documentation where Sanders "allowed" his people to believe lies. And FYI, Sanders has been siding with the Democrats for a myriad of issues for YEARS.
He's not perfect and I have disagreements with him on some issues. But Hillary SCREWED HIM in California, and the result is Trump in office.
 
it is fact that bernie voters were targeted by the russian efforts


Go get me me a tape of bernie telling his supporters that one of those lied filled stories they believed about hilary was not true.



I never saw one
 
http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...rom-the-senates-first-russia-hearings-w474260



Russian Bots Targeted Swing Voters
Watts' testimony bolstered reports that Russian intelligence spread disinformation using bots on social media throughout the 2016, and that those efforts were rather sophisticated. *
"Today, you can create the content, gain the audience, build the bots, pick out the election, and even the voters that are valued the most – in swing states – and actually insert the right content in a deliberate period. They pre-planned it, they were a year and a half out, they're doing it today in European elections," Watts said. He added that these methods weren't only used during the general election, but during the Democratic primary as well, when he says bots targeted Bernie Sanders supporters. "They play all sides."
 
I just did a search


I could not find tape of bernie debunking the lie filled crap that was targeting his voters about Clinton
 
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