Sessions big-gov't views on marijuana

Alice in Liberaland said:
Well it is true. Otherwise Marinol would be flying off of Pharmacy shelves. It is not. Remember. SAME ACTIVE INGREDIENT.

Like global warming your ignorance has allowed you to be scammed

As for the last sentence. Find one time where I have advocated the government not following the law on those issues. As much as I despise abortion it is the law. So I would oppose anyone violating the law to alter it. There is a larger issue that I don't allow to be clouded by my personal preferences. I work to have Roe overturned. Two more justices and it happens

But back to Marinol
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there are MANY active ingredients in marijuana, THC is just but one of many cannabinoids, and is the most prevalent PSYCHOACTIVE ingredient. THere are many other cannabinoids, previously mentioned in this thread, such as CBN, CBD, thcv, etc. All play a roll with regards to medicinal effects.
 
Darth Omar said:
I'm trying to imagine how the human body ended up with endo C receptors lol.

Or whether these receptor molecules just happen to be able to receive their cannaboid counterpart molecules by chance---or whether we evolved the receptors.

It's making my brain hurt.
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the more amazing thing is that the plant has no use for its cannabinoids. it literally seems to just benefit us. that's weird O_O not many forms of life on earth have some feature about it that benefits another specieis
 
SmarterthanYou said:
it was never offered as a possibility by her doctor. maybe because it's not a recommended substance. go educate yourself some more......or are you an actual doctor?
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Really?

Not a recommended substance?

http://www.marinol.com

Maybe she has a shitty doctor? Or are you so anti gubmint you won't take anything that was FDA approved so you can keep it real?

No grocery stores for you cuz you keep it real right?
 
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SmarterthanYou said:
now I know for sure you're just an ignorant government sheeple following their directives. you have zero clue about what the active ingredients are and are therefore dismissed. I accept your concession.
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If you want to legalize pot smoking go for it. Fight for it. Run sparky. I won't stand in your way. Hell if it eve came up as a ballot initiative I probably wouldn't even vote for it one way or another. People smoking dope isn't a big thing for me. I generally ignore the pot smoking threads.

At a certain level, I don't give a fuck what someone puts in their body. In fact, if I were your wife I would probably need to be stoned all of the time to deal with you.

I am just pointing out that medical marijuana is a scam. I have presented logical facts. You have gone Deshtard with your "you hate the Constitution" bullshit

I don't concede anything because I don't have to
 
Now I think I will blow the pot smokers minds with some more logic about the "medical marijuana" scam.

When a doctor gives you your little prescription for "medical marijuana" what are his prescribing directions?

Does he write a prescription to smoke it three times a day? Once a day? Is there a specific plant with a specific dosage that can be consistently replicated? Are there different directions for different conditions? For example do you take it differently for your glaucoma? AIDS induced anorexia? Chemotherapy induced nausea and vomiting?

Does he just write a prescription to "go smoke some weed"?

For example if you go to the doctor because you have heart failure like Rune does, does your doctor say "I hear good things about digitalis, here is a prescription for some foxglove."? Go eat the plant. No, he writes you a prescription for Digoxin 0.125 mg once a day.

If you have an MRSA infection does your physician say "go grab some soil because there is a bacterium called Amycolatopsis orientalis that is really good at treating MRSA"?

Or does he write you a prescription for vancomycin 1 gram every 12 hours intravenously for 10 days?

I know that I am fucking with people's preconceived notions and they think I am trying to stand in their way of altering their consciousness because it is the only way they can deal with their shitty lives. I am not. I am merely pointing out that you are being lied to about "medical marijuana".


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Threedee said:
I have watched Grind post in defense of weed for over a decade. While I am suspicious of his postings about Zimmermann, Trump, and so forth, I have always found him to be 100% honest about this subject.
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Oh I know he is a big proponent of weed. I am dubious that he really believes it prevents cancer or diabetes
 
Darth Omar said:
It happens that I'm on board with medical pot.

Why don't I remember you advocating states right on gay marriage?

Got a link?
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One has nothing to do with the other. One is an outdated law that was rammed through by chemical/drug companies. The other is an outdated mindset that discriminates.

By your logic, slavery should be a states rights issue as well.
 
Althea said:
One has nothing to do with the other. One is an outdated law that was rammed through by chemical/drug companies. The other is an outdated mindset that discriminates.

By your logic, slavery should be a states rights issue as well.
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The question is whether states have the constitutional authority to define marriage.

That you equate that with slavery demonstrates how misguided you are on the subject.
 
Thing1 said:
Man o' straw.

How can you say "I truly hope you can find comfort as I believe it is a crime that people are allowed to live in pain due to a lack of understanding of physiology and science", and then not be ticked about what Sessions is doing?

His entire POV on pot is not based on any understanding of the science whatsoever. As with everything, your responses are determined by what you think Joe Lefty will support or oppose.
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The positions are completely consistent you just wanna get high. Own it don't hide behind shitty science.

Again this is why I respect Grind. He admits he is a pot head. I don't necessarily condone it, but it is his life. He isn't hiding behind some "medical condition" to justify it and hide the stigma. He just owns it.

STY hides behind his wife's skirt.
 

  • Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.



  • A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.






  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.



  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies in mouse models of cancer showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.


https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#link/_13

This is from the official site on cancer, pimping the drug isn't their purpose, stopping cancer is.

There was another study done on human smokers. People that smoke weed don't even use filters very often with joints or blunts, and can still smoke many carcinogens, and more plant material than from cigs. They thought they were going to find increased cancer among weed smokers, but found the direction opposite. Even though both groups were inhaling nearly the same amount of carcinogens, those that smoke weed not only didn't surpass cig smokers, but actually had lower cancer rates. The only thing that could be concluded is that cannabinionds have actual cancer fighting properties.

The research is pretty well established. It has a variety of medical uses. It still being on schedule 1 is retarded.




 
and yes i use weed cause it's awesome and would do it even with zero medical benefits. that said it does help me with stress and as a sleep aid
 
The Christ Puncher said:

  • Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.



  • A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.






  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.



  • A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies in mouse models of cancer showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.


https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#link/_13

This is from the official site on cancer, pimping the drug isn't their purpose, stopping cancer is.

There was another study done on human smokers. People that smoke weed don't even use filters very often with joints or blunts, and can still smoke many carcinogens, and more plant material than from cigs. They thought they were going to find increased cancer among weed smokers, but found the direction opposite. Even though both groups were inhaling nearly the same amount of carcinogens, those that smoke weed not only didn't surpass cig smokers, but actually had lower cancer rates. The only thing that could be concluded is that cannabinionds have actual cancer fighting properties.

The research is pretty well established. It has a variety of medical uses. It still being on schedule 1 is retarded.
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Mouse studies while not completely insignificant are not conclusive. There are piles of drugs that showed promise in mice/rats yet failed in humans.

As to the smoking thing

1) the smoking link to lung cancer has always been overblown.

2) most weed smokers don't smoke as often or as long as cigarette smokers. Cigarette smokers can smoke a pack a day.

Look I have never claimed that THC doesn't have some medicinal properties. I am saying that the "medical marijuana" push is a scam to legalize pot.

I am also saying that it is Sessions right to follow existing law
 
Alice in Liberaland said:
If you want to legalize pot smoking go for it. Fight for it. Run sparky. I won't stand in your way. Hell if it eve came up as a ballot initiative I probably wouldn't even vote for it one way or another. People smoking dope isn't a big thing for me. I generally ignore the pot smoking threads.

At a certain level, I don't give a fuck what someone puts in their body. In fact, if I were your wife I would probably need to be stoned all of the time to deal with you.

I am just pointing out that medical marijuana is a scam. I have presented logical facts. You have gone Deshtard with your "you hate the Constitution" bullshit

I don't concede anything because I don't have to
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You are asserting that it is a scam........who cares, You are an ignorant fuck.
 
Alice in Liberaland said:
Mouse studies while not completely insignificant are not conclusive. There are piles of drugs that showed promise in mice/rats yet failed in humans.

As to the smoking thing

1) the smoking link to lung cancer has always been overblown.

2) most weed smokers don't smoke as often or as long as cigarette smokers. Cigarette smokers can smoke a pack a day.

Look I have never claimed that THC doesn't have some medicinal properties. I am saying that the "medical marijuana" push is a scam to legalize pot.

I am also saying that it is Sessions right to follow existing law
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Smokers need to worry about COPD more than anything. Most people would be surprised how often lung cancer shows up in non-smokers.
 
Alice in Liberaland said:
Now I think I will blow the pot smokers minds with some more logic about the "medical marijuana" scam.

When a doctor gives you your little prescription for "medical marijuana" what are his prescribing directions?

Does he write a prescription to smoke it three times a day? Once a day? Is there a specific plant with a specific dosage that can be consistently replicated? Are there different directions for different conditions? For example do you take it differently for your glaucoma? AIDS induced anorexia? Chemotherapy induced nausea and vomiting?

Does he just write a prescription to "go smoke some weed"?

For example if you go to the doctor because you have heart failure like Rune does, does your doctor say "I hear good things about digitalis, here is a prescription for some foxglove."? Go eat the plant. No, he writes you a prescription for Digoxin 0.125 mg once a day.

If you have an MRSA infection does your physician say "go grab some soil because there is a bacterium called Amycolatopsis orientalis that is really good at treating MRSA"?

Or does he write you a prescription for vancomycin 1 gram every 12 hours intravenously for 10 days?

I know that I am fucking with people's preconceived notions and they think I am trying to stand in their way of altering their consciousness because it is the only way they can deal with their shitty lives. I am not. I am merely pointing out that you are being lied to about "medical marijuana".


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This rap is not an "argument"....
 
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