Republicans V Democrats: The Difference

cawacko said:
Haha, didn't watch but agree with your sentiment. At the end of the day as individuals we are essentially all the same. And as parties they both want power and to spend money on people who vote for them.
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Yes. While there are obvious differences they both are hungry for power. This one side "has a heart" and their "only for the rich" is a bunch of hooey, IMO. Especially at the national level. Looking at both parties, it really seems that one side wants to turn us into a European style, quasi-socialist nation while the other side isn't willing to do enough for certain beneficial programs. One side wants to whittle the military down to to the nub (see Obama administration) while the other tends to go to the other extreme.

But in so many aspects they are the same...wanting power and will do and say anything to get it. And during the 3 administrations, this one included, obstructionism is the theme. So as the political seesaw goes back and forth, the answers (and lost voices of both parties) are more in the middle.
 
blackvegetable said:
No they didn't.....you are lying.....
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I just stated facts that I experienced.......you, without knowledge of those facts just called me a liar......you, without question are a fucking idiot.......if you care to be informed you are free to peruse the archives and see the specific details.....I have no intention of covering it again because I don't think you're worth the effort......keeping posting stupid shit and you'll be the first of your idiot tribe to go on IA......
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Democrats have hearts.

We care about the poor.

Republicans have no heart.
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Democrats have hate. Their path to success is destruction.

You care about grooming the poor for votes.

Republicans still haven't found a way to push through the destructiveness of the Left.
 
leaningright said:
Yes. While there are obvious differences they both are hungry for power. This one side "has a heart" and their "only for the rich" is a bunch of hooey, IMO. Especially at the national level. Looking at both parties, it really seems that one side wants to turn us into a European style, quasi-socialist nation while the other side isn't willing to do enough for certain beneficial programs. One side wants to whittle the military down to to the nub (see Obama administration) while the other tends to go to the other extreme.

But in so many aspects they are the same...wanting power and will do and say anything to get it. And during the 3 administrations, this one included, obstructionism is the theme. So as the political seesaw goes back and forth, the answers (and lost voices of both parties) are more in the middle.
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With that awareness must come the recognition that there is nothing one can do about the system but pick a side and fight for the issues you believe in.

Third parties will never work because the system won't allow that.

Doing nothing does nothing. But the fight defines the difference between being a citizen rather than a subject to the Crown .. where most of the middle resides.
 
Granule said:
Democrats have hate. Their path to success is destruction.

You care about grooming the poor for votes.

Republicans still haven't found a way to push through the destructiveness of the Left.
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grooming the poor for votes?



you mean representing poor people and their interests is somehow evil to you?


you are one huge slime pile of racism and elitism
 
During the 2012 DNC Convention there were a large number of signs in the arena that said "Middle Class First". That's all fine and good but please stop with this 'we care so much about the poor' rhetoric.

No you freaking don't.
 
cawacko said:
During the 2012 DNC Convention there were a large number of signs in the arena that said "Middle Class First". That's all fine and good but please stop with this 'we care so much about the poor' rhetoric.

No you freaking don't.
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For damn sure, you don't give a rats ass about the poor. What's your point?

Obviously democrats care more about them then you do.
 
cawacko said:
And the basis of that is what?
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What is your standing to even question what's being done about the poor when you don't care about them?

Democrats have a long history of legislating for the benefit of the poor while you don't even think people should be paid a decent wage.

What is your point?
 
blackascoal said:
What is your standing to even question what's being done about the poor when you don't care about them?

Democrats have a long history of legislating for the benefit of the poor while you don't even think people should be paid a decent wage.

What is your point?
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I don't believe we should punish poor people by legislating a minimum wage that prices them out of the market. I don't believe we should punish poor children by leaving them in failing schools.

You are free to disagree with policy proposals I support but that's different than saying I don't care.

My point is this claim of saying you (anyone) cares because you are a Democrat is partisan crap.
 
cawacko said:
I don't believe we should punish poor people by legislating a minimum wage that prices them out of the market. I don't believe we should punish poor children by leaving them in failing schools.

You are free to disagree with policy proposals I support but that's different than saying I don't care.

My point is this claim of saying you (anyone) cares because you are a Democrat is partisan crap.
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I've never understood how benefits to the poor hurts you.

Neither you nor anyone else on your side of this issue could refute the 2.6% unemployment rate, nor the BOOMING economic, employment statistics, nor new business growth in Seattle. All of that is happening in a city that you claim is hurt by paying better wages to workers.

If you can refute that .. please, do so now .. and Sailor feel free to join in.

June 21, 2017
"When we passed the $15 minimum wage, we were warned the economy would tank, jobs would dry up, and employers would flee," Murray said. "Today, Seattle's economy is the strongest it has ever been, unemployment is at a historically low rate, and employers are competing for employees."

Seattle's unemployment rate fell to 2.6 percent over the last two years, Murray said, and restaurants were among the city's fastest growing industries, with more than 33,000 workers in 2016.
http://www.king5.com/news/local/seattles-high-minimum-wage-hasnt-cost-jobs-study-finds/450850532

The poor are doing much better.

How does that hurt you?
 
blackascoal said:
I've never understood how benefits to the poor hurts you.

Neither you nor anyone else on your side of this issue could refute the 2.6% unemployment rate, nor the BOOMING economic, employment statistics, nor new business growth in Seattle. All of that is happening in a city that you claim is hurt by paying better wages to workers.

If you can refute that .. please, do so now .. and Sailor feel free to join in.

June 21, 2017
"When we passed the $15 minimum wage, we were warned the economy would tank, jobs would dry up, and employers would flee," Murray said. "Today, Seattle's economy is the strongest it has ever been, unemployment is at a historically low rate, and employers are competing for employees."

Seattle's unemployment rate fell to 2.6 percent over the last two years, Murray said, and restaurants were among the city's fastest growing industries, with more than 33,000 workers in 2016.
http://www.king5.com/news/local/seattles-high-minimum-wage-hasnt-cost-jobs-study-finds/450850532

The poor are doing much better.

How does that hurt you?
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I posted the study the city of Seattle ordered about what happened to the low income workers. Their hours were reduced and they lost income. That is not helping them in my book.

Claiming Seattle's economy is doing well and the rich are doing great does not address what the increase did to the low income workers it proposed to help.
 
cawacko said:
I posted the study the city of Seattle ordered about what happened to the low income workers. Their hours were reduced and they lost income. That is not helping them in my book.

Claiming Seattle's economy is doing well and the rich are doing great does not address what the increase did to the low income workers it proposed to help.
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That's because your book is all about politics and money, not factual information that impacts lives.

I posted the study that demonstrated how the study you cling to was flawed, and how they came by their flawed results .. but studies aren't the point. The point is 2.6 unemployment and a booming city and job market. Refute that.

Seattle's high minimum wage hasn't cost jobs, study finds
http://www.king5.com/news/local/seattles-high-minimum-wage-hasnt-cost-jobs-study-finds/450850532

Tell me how a city in the midst of all the good news is so depressed by a study?
 
Oh, man - that OP is pure partisan hackery.

"One side is calculating - the other side is hysterical."

I'm not sure how immersed you have to be in koolaid to even write something like that. That is someone who is so far gone.
 
anatta said:
I voted for Trump's ideas ,not Republicans. I think the MAGA agenda is a superior idea.
America first in all decisions.. ( gee what a concept)

The Establishment Republicans are the same #SwampWeasels as the Democrats.
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I agree that both parties are worthless, but so are Trump's ideas. Trump is about Trump, and that's it.
 
Seattle Times: $15 wage law has little impact on Seattle’s thriving labor market, report suggests

Seattle’s labor market has boomed since the city set its minimum wage on a path to $15 an hour, according to a new University of Washington report. Much of that growth has had nothing to do with the new pay requirement.

Seattle’s labor market has thrived since the city became the first major metropolis in the country to pass a law setting its minimum wage on a path to $15 per hour.

The city’s job-growth rate has been triple the national average, for example.

During the period covered in the report, typical low-wage workers in Seattle saw their pay increase from $9.96 per hour to $11.14 per hour. Their employment rate and their number of hours increased, as did their overall earnings, according to the report.

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“We do not find compelling evidence that the minimum wage has caused significant increases in business failure rates,” the report says.

In an email Monday, the advocacy organization Working Washington said the report demonstrates how the minimum-wage law’s “Chicken Little” critics, who predicted the sky would fall on Seattle’s economy, are wrong.
This spring, the UW researchers presented to the council the results of a preliminary survey of Seattle employers and workers about the minimum-wage law.

Many employers said they’d be raising prices. But an analysis of grocery stores, restaurants and other stores by the UW team found little to no evidence of that.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...attles-thriving-labor-market-report-suggests/
 
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