Russia hacking and Qatar

[Micawber]

So Russia is causing rifts between US allies using more cyber war and fake Trumpean news.

Anatta must be overjoyed as Putin dismantles the US global empire from within and without.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/06/06/politics/russian-hackers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html

 

[Amadeus]

So Russia is causing rifts between US allies using more cyber war and fake Trumpean news.

Anatta must be overjoyed as Putin dismantles the US global empire from within and without.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...ers-planted-fake-news-qatar-crisis/index.html

Yeah, I posted about this a couple days ago. The general response was the Deep State planted the story to make Russia look bad, and/or there's no evidence of Russian involvement (because the evidence is classified). Pretty standard fare from the usual JPP folk.

 

[Micawber]

Yeah, I posted about this a couple days ago. The general response was the Deep State planted the story to make Russia look bad, and/or there's no evidence of Russian involvement (because the evidence is classified). Pretty standard fare from the usual JPP folk.

When can we expect the right to become Americans again? Were they ever or was I uninformed? Sad. How low does the bar for mendacity, apology for Dump and his failings and complete reversal on every geopolitical belief they held for 60 years go on? Sorry for metaphor contortion.

 

[anatta]

The story is a mess. I do not recall Trump's tweeting in support of the Qatar blockade.

In fact Tillerson and Trump today said that SA and the rest of the Gulf Council have to stop the blockade
because it's interfering in US OPS against ISIS-and the rift needs to be repaired; albeit with Qatar reforming it's banks.

So this looks like a fake Qatari claim to me: blaming the pro-Iranian speech on 'da Russians"

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed what he called CNN's "fake" reporting Wednesday.

"It's another lie that was published," he told reporters. "Unfortunately, our colleagues from CNN again and again publish references to unnamed sources in unnamed agencies, etc, etc. These streams of information have no connection with the reality. It's so far away from the reality. Fake is a fake."

The Qatari government has said a May 23 news report on its Qatar News Agency attributed false remarks to the nation's ruler that appeared friendly to Iran and Israel and questioned whether President Donald Trump would last in office.

 

[Amadeus]

The story is a mess. I do not recall Trump's tweeting in support of the Qatar blockade.

 

[Cadillac Man]

The story is a mess. I do not recall Trump's tweeting in support of the Qatar blockade.

In fact Tillerson and Trump today said that SA and the rest of the Gulf Council have to stop the blockade
because it's interfering in US OPS against ISIS-and the rift needs to be repaired; albeit with Qatar reforming it's banks.

So this looks like a fake Qatari claim to me: blaming the pro-Iranian speech on 'da Russians"

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed what he called CNN's "fake" reporting Wednesday.


The Qatari government has said a May 23 news report on its Qatar News Agency attributed false remarks to the nation's ruler that appeared friendly to Iran and Israel and questioned whether President Donald Trump would last in office.

Nope.

“We call on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Egypt to ease the blockade against Qatar,” Tillerson said. “There are humanitarian consequences to this blockade. We are seeing shortages of food, families are being forcibly separated, and children pulled out of school. We believe these are unintended consequences, especially during this Holy Month of Ramadan, but they can be addressed immediately.”

Trump, on the other hand, took the side of the four gulf states implementing the blockade over Qatar’s alleged funding of terrorist groups. Tillerson was sitting in the front row of the crowd gathered in the White House Rose Garden for Trump’s joint press conference with Romanian President Klaus Iohannis, according to NBC News’ Hallie Jackson.

“The nation of Qatar, unfortunately has historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level,” he said, before referencing his meeting with the Arab-Islamic American Summit on May 21, in Saudi Arabia. “And in the wake of that conference, nations came together and spoke to me about confronting Qatar over its behavior. So we had a decision to make. Do we take the easy road or do we finally take a hard but necessary action? We have to stop the funding of terrorism.”

 

[anatta]

from the article:

in his tweet, Trump voiced support for the regional blockade of Qatar

^ where do you see this?

you are showing me this:

On Tuesday, Trump tweeted criticism of Qatar that mirrors that of the Saudis and others in the region who have long objected to Qatar's foreign policy.

 

[tsuke]

are you insane? This is the last thing Russia wants. Qatar and Iran share the largest natural gas field in the world. The saudis have always hated how close they are to Iran. Qatar is now being forced to choose between the Sunni world and the Shia one. Given that there is an effective blockade already they will eventually choose the sunnis and Iran will have a hard time getting energy from those gas fields devastating its economy.

 

[anatta]

Nope.

WTF is "nope" can't you make a point?

Of course we want to stop the funding to Muslim Brotherhood,and even ISIS by Qatar-but we do NOT want the blockade!

We want free reign on ops at Al Udeid Air Base (Doha) and we do not want to be impeded by any blockade.

can you hold these 2 ideas in your head simultaneously?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

When can we expect the right to become Americans again? Were they ever or was I uninformed? Sad. How low does the bar for mendacity, apology for Dump and his failings and complete reversal on every geopolitical belief they held for 60 years go on? Sorry for metaphor contortion.

Right after you take the Loyalty Oath.

 

[anatta]

the CNN story is short on accuracy -I have no idea what

a May 23 news report on its Qatar News Agency attributed false remarks to the nation's ruler that appeared friendly to Iran and Israel and questioned whether President Donald Trump would last in office

was reported on was by the QNA was actually said by their Emir or was "fake news"

 

[Irish]

lmao. As if Obama didn't the last 8 years.

Also our allies turning on Qatar is a good things, since they have been supporting terrorism.

 

[anatta]

lmao. As if Obama didn't the last 8 years.
Also our allies turning on Qatar is a good things, since they have been supporting terrorism.

we are allies with Qatar also.
We want Qatari reform, not a Sunni schism/blockade

 

[evince]

what about our base there fools

 

[Althea]

When can we expect the right to become Americans again? Were they ever or was I uninformed? Sad. How low does the bar for mendacity, apology for Dump and his failings and complete reversal on every geopolitical belief they held for 60 years go on? Sorry for metaphor contortion.

There's too much time before the mid terms. If it were closer to an election, Republicans would be jumping off the crazy train like rats.

 

[evince]

many are russian dirty too


they cant get off the train

 

[Amadeus]

we are allies with Qatar also.
We want Qatari reform, not a Sunni schism/blockade

Seems to me that you and Irish are reading different things from the Trump Administration.

 

[Airstrip One]

RUSSIA FTW!!

 

[evince]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Udeid_Air_Base



PLEASE TELL YOUR STUPID ORANGE CHEMO MAN THAT WE HAVE TROOPS THERE

 

[evince]

United States operations[edit]


Al Udeid Air Base in 2017
Military cooperation and foreign assistance[edit]
With its small territory and narrow population base, Qatar relies to a large degree on external cooperation and support for its security. With a personnel strength of 11,800, Qatar’s armed forces are the second-smallest in the Middle East. France has provided approximately 80% of Qatar’s arms inventory. Since the 1991 Gulf War, Qatar has pursued a limited program of force modernization. Qatar has spent $12 billion to buy MIM-104 Patriot Missiles.
Qatar invested over $US1 billion to construct the Al Udeid Air Base southwest of Doha during the 1990s; it did not have a truly substantial air force of its own at the time. The United States Army Corps of Engineers also awarded over $100 million in Military Construction Air Force (MCAF) contracts for the construction of U.S. storage, housing, service, command, and communication facilities. Qatar’s financing and construction of some of the state-of-the-art air force base at Al Udeid and its granting of permission for the construction of U.S.-funded facilities helped deepen cooperation with U.S. military forces.
The Al Udeid Air Base now serves as a logistics, command, and basing hub for U.S. operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nearby Camp As Sayliyah houses significant U.S. military equipment pre-positioning and command and control facilities for the CENTCOM's area of operations. Both Qatar and the United States have invested in the construction and expansion of these facilities since the mid-1990s, and they form the main hub of the CENTCOM air and ground logistical network in the area of responsibility. As a result of ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. and partner nation facilities in Qatar and elsewhere have received higher use in recent years and may require further investment to meet current and potential future needs.


Combined Air and Space Operations Center (CAOC) provides command and control of air power throughout Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and 17 other nations.
Units[edit]
Further information: Military intervention against ISIL order of battle
United States Marine Corps (USMC) Marine Tactical Electronic Warfare 3 (VMAQ-3) 'Moondogs' from February 17, 2014, with Northrop Grumman EA-6B Prowlers[6] until August 9, 2014.[7]
Congress appropriations and authorizations[edit]
From FY2003 to FY2007, Congress authorized and appropriated $126 million for U.S. military construction activities in Qatar.
The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (P.L. 110-181) authorized $81.7 million in FY2008 spending to build new Air Force and Special Operations facilities in Qatar.
The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009 (P.L. 110-417) authorizes $69.6 million in FY2009 spending to build new Air Force and Special Operations facilities.
The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 (P.L. 111-84) authorizes $117 million in FY2010 spending to build new Air Force recreational, dormitory, and other facilities at Al Udeid.
The Administration’s FY2011 military construction request for Qatar was $64.3 million, for Air Force facilities and a National Security Agency warehouse.
The FY2012 request includes $37 million to continue the dormitory and recreation facility project