Comey testimony, Alright, let's take bets now

I made a few notes as the hearing went on.........



Trump did not ask Comey to stop Russia probe.

Trump said if any of his associates were involved with Russian cluusion, it would "be good to find that out."

Mueller needs to decide if Trump obstructed justice.

People aren't charged with a crime for "hoping."

Trump did not order Comey to let Flynn go.

Comey thought that "hoping" meant a direct order.

Comey said "I 'hope' there are tapes of Trump meetings". (So, is THAT a directive?)

Comey acknowledged that a President has the authority to order an investigation to be stopped.

Trump not under investigation...NYT lied



McCain???????????????? Troubling


Rubio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent



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Comey has comprehension problems with basic English grammar and what words mean. He doesn't seem to know the difference between a declaration or personal 'hope' and a directive.

Comey's reply to a past Trump question, "I'll see what we can do" when he REALLY meant "no" regarding lifting the cloud. (Clearly as Comey said, "He was acting cowardly" when answering that way.)
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:good4u:

my friend, I can not tell you how refreshing it is that someone on a political forum can actually deduce from fact

This Thingy1 and Nomad characters troll, call people names, deflect, make-up and otherwise show total disregard for any reasonable opinion they might have to be taken seriously
 
Idiot thread. No matter what is or was said the thread idiots and all Trump idiots will call it a big nothing. Foregone conclusion.

The stakes are stupid. Who gives a fuck about being banned.

The Republican numbers are a stopper on impeachment even if that evidence is supportive of a high crime or misdemeanor.

Dumbass thread by anti American pro trump idiot.
 
Said one partisan hack to another.

His "notes" are all cherry-picked, out of context nonsense.

Figures you'd cheerlead for it, though.
feel free to rebuttal anything..you know actually say something coherent?
Or continue to post worthless partisan crap
 
Idiot thread. No matter what is or was said the thread idiots and all Trump idiots will call it a big nothing. Foregone conclusion.

The stakes are stupid. Who gives a fuck about being banned.

The Republican numbers are a stopper on impeachment even if that evidence is supportive of a high crime or misdemeanor.

Dumbass thread by anti American pro trump idiot.

Trump's image has been irreparably damaged.

Everyone now knows that Trump is a lying, underhanded sleazeball.
 
feel free to rebuttal anything..you know actually say something coherent?
Or continue to post worthless partisan crap

I'm not going to waste my time going through that bullshit list one item at a time, explaining in detail the deficiency of each point.

If you want to be a brainless rah-rah, go ahead and knock yourself out.
 
:good4u:

my friend, I can not tell you how refreshing it is that someone on a political forum can actually deduce from fact

This Thingy1 and Nomad characters troll, call people names, deflect, make-up and otherwise show total disregard for any reasonable opinion they might have to be taken seriously

Stop projecting on the "calling names" thing. You can probably find a post or 2 where I've done it, but it's extremely rare. Almost every post of your denigrates someone somehow, by calling them goofy, a troll, stupid or saying they're an adolescent or something.
 
#Comey says Lynch tarmac meeting, directive to downplay probe prompted him to go rogue on Clinton case.

What do the law-obsessed liberals think about that?
 
Idiot thread. No matter what is or was said the thread idiots and all Trump idiots will call it a big nothing. Foregone conclusion.

The stakes are stupid. Who gives a fuck about being banned.

The Republican numbers are a stopper on impeachment even if that evidence is supportive of a high crime or misdemeanor.

Dumbass thread by anti American pro trump idiot.

So, what are your actual deductions from what all was actually asked and answered in the hearing?
 
Originally Posted by Nomad
His "notes" are all cherry-picked, out of context nonsense.


Funny that Comey himself didn't accuse any of his questioners of that.
 
I'm still waiting for ANY evidence of Russia/Trump collusion. Comey saying Trump asked him nicely to "lay off" Flynn, doesn't tell me shit.

More smoke, no fire. Trump asking Comey for a favor, or to layoff someone he considered a friend is a nothing burger for sure. This is just how Trump did business as a tycoon.

Libtards are saying this is watergate, but also brushed aside Benghazi where 4 Americans died!

So having a conversation with an FBI Director = must be impeached. Getting 4 Americans killed due to incompetence and ignoring security warnings, then attempting to cover it up = no big deal, business as usual.
 
I'm still waiting for ANY evidence of Russia/Trump collusion. Comey saying Trump asked him nicely to "lay off" Flynn, doesn't tell me shit.

More smoke, no fire. Trump asking Comey for a favor, or to layoff someone he considered a friend is a nothing burger for sure. This is just how Trump did business as a tycoon.

Libtards are saying this is watergate, but also brushed aside Benghazi where 4 Americans died!

So having a conversation with an FBI Director = must be impeached. Getting 4 Americans killed due to incompetence and ignoring security warnings, then attempting to cover it up = no big deal, business as usual.

Don't wait too long and definitely don't hold your breath.
 


I'm going to put the text here as well.........................

In his testimony former FBI director James Comey echoed a view that I alone have been expressing for several weeks, and that has been attacked by nearly every Democratic pundit.


Comey confirmed that under our Constitution, the president has the authority to direct the FBI to stop investigating any individual. I paraphrase, because the transcript is not yet available: the president can, in theory, decide who to investigate, who to stop investigating, who to prosecute and who not to prosecute. The president is the head of the unified executive branch of government, and the Justice Department and the FBI work under him and he may order them to do what he wishes.

As a matter of law, Comey is 100 percent correct. As I have long argued, and as Comey confirmed in his written statement, our history shows that many presidents—from Adams to Jefferson, to Lincoln, to Roosevelt, to Kennedy, to Bush 1, and to Obama – have directed the Justice Department with regard to ongoing investigations. The history is clear, the precedents are clear, the constitutional structure is clear, and common sense is clear.

Yet virtually every Democratic pundit, in their haste to “get” President Trump, has willfully ignored these realities. In doing so they have endangered our civil liberties and constitutional rights.

Now that even former Director Comey has acknowledged that the Constitution would permit the president to direct the Justice Department and the FBI in this matter, let us put the issue of obstruction of justice behind us once and for all and focus on the political, moral, and other non-criminal aspects of President Trump’s conduct.

Comey’s testimony was devastating with regard to President Trump’s credibility – at least as Comey sees it. He was also critical of President Trump’s failure to observe the recent tradition of FBI independence from presidential influence. These are issues worth discussing but they have been distorted by the insistence of Democratic pundits that Trump must have committed a crime because they disagree with what he did politically.


Director Comey’s testimony was thoughtful, coherent and balanced. He is obviously angry with President Trump, and his anger has influenced his assessment of the president and his actions. But even putting that aside, Comey has provided useful insights into the ongoing investigations.

I was disappointed to learn that Comey used a Columbia law professor as a go-between to provide information to the media. He should have has the courage to do it himself. Senators must insist that he disclose the name of his go-between so that they can subpoena his memos and perhaps subpoena the professor-friend to provide further information.

I write this short op-ed as Comey finishes his testimony. I think it is important to put to rest the notion that there was anything criminal about the president exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and to request – “hope” – that he let go the investigation of General Flynn. Just as the president would have had the constitutional power to pardon Flynn and thus end the criminal investigation of him, he certainly had the authority to request the director of the FBI to end his investigation of Flynn.

So let’s move on and learn all the facts regarding the Russian efforts to intrude on American elections without that investigation being impeded by frivolous efforts to accuse President Trump of committing a crime by exercising his constitutional authority.

Alan M. Dershowitz, Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Emeritus and author of Taking the Stand: My Life in the Law and Electile Dysfunction.
 
I'm going to put the text here as well.........................

In his testimony former FBI director James Comey echoed a view that I alone have been expressing for several weeks, and that has been attacked by nearly every Democratic pundit.


Comey confirmed that under our Constitution, the president has the authority to direct the FBI to stop investigating any individual. I paraphrase, because the transcript is not yet available: the president can, in theory, decide who to investigate, who to stop investigating, who to prosecute and who not to prosecute. The president is the head of the unified executive branch of government, and the Justice Department and the FBI work under him and he may order them to do what he wishes.

As a matter of law, Comey is 100 percent correct. As I have long argued, and as Comey confirmed in his written statement, our history shows that many presidents—from Adams to Jefferson, to Lincoln, to Roosevelt, to Kennedy, to Bush 1, and to Obama – have directed the Justice Department with regard to ongoing investigations. The history is clear, the precedents are clear, the constitutional structure is clear, and common sense is clear.

Yet virtually every Democratic pundit, in their haste to “get” President Trump, has willfully ignored these realities. In doing so they have endangered our civil liberties and constitutional rights.

Now that even former Director Comey has acknowledged that the Constitution would permit the president to direct the Justice Department and the FBI in this matter, let us put the issue of obstruction of justice behind us once and for all and focus on the political, moral, and other non-criminal aspects of President Trump’s conduct.

Comey’s testimony was devastating with regard to President Trump’s credibility – at least as Comey sees it. He was also critical of President Trump’s failure to observe the recent tradition of FBI independence from presidential influence. These are issues worth discussing but they have been distorted by the insistence of Democratic pundits that Trump must have committed a crime because they disagree with what he did politically.


Director Comey’s testimony was thoughtful, coherent and balanced. He is obviously angry with President Trump, and his anger has influenced his assessment of the president and his actions. But even putting that aside, Comey has provided useful insights into the ongoing investigations.

I was disappointed to learn that Comey used a Columbia law professor as a go-between to provide information to the media. He should have has the courage to do it himself. Senators must insist that he disclose the name of his go-between so that they can subpoena his memos and perhaps subpoena the professor-friend to provide further information.

I write this short op-ed as Comey finishes his testimony. I think it is important to put to rest the notion that there was anything criminal about the president exercising his constitutional power to fire Comey and to request – “hope” – that he let go the investigation of General Flynn. Just as the president would have had the constitutional power to pardon Flynn and thus end the criminal investigation of him, he certainly had the authority to request the director of the FBI to end his investigation of Flynn.

So let’s move on and learn all the facts regarding the Russian efforts to intrude on American elections without that investigation being impeded by frivolous efforts to accuse President Trump of committing a crime by exercising his constitutional authority.

Alan M. Dershowitz, Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law, Emeritus and author of Taking the Stand: My Life in the Law and Electile Dysfunction.

I stopped reading at "I alone".
 
Everyone now knows that Trump is a lying, underhanded sleazeball.

"everyone"? as in who

you, Nomad and Jarod?

LOLOLOLO

man this is like out of the twilight zone this liberal take on things

Suppose we analyze why Comey admitted in front of the world he gave his memo notes to a friend of his and asked him to leak it to the media, purpose of getting a special committee created to look into Trumps wrongdoing.

Thoughts? and I realize this may be a stretch of intellect


Thought:
Thought can refer to the ideas or arrangements of ideas that result from thinking,
 
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