Again...this time London Bridge

Thing1 said:
I don't even see how it is minimizing it to say "lone wolf." But my follow-up to that post was honest. When I first saw the news, it seemed exactly like the 4-5 incidents we've seen just like it, w/ that lone wolf driver just plowing into a crowd. Now, we know it was 3 guys - not exactly a huge difference.

Regardless, the gulf between that and "defending terrorism" is epic. It's impossibly stupid to even try to draw that conclusion. And it's so absurd to say "well, I don't think he's defending terrorism - but his posts seem to."

Really despicable stuff, but I have concluded that you're just a dope. To try to argue that anything I have said on this thread is "defending terrorism"....it's just dopey and simplistic. You're really just an idiot.
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You idiot, did they not have a terror attack before this one? Did not the British IC say that was coordinated? And yet, you automatically downplay the very next terror attack by claiming, oh, oh, oh, it is just a lone wolf thing, no big deal, nothing to see here.

How many times do I have to say, I take it back, I don't think you are defending terrorism, but you sure seem to. It is like your lies with the fringe thing. I claimed Trump WAS fringe, and you kept saying I said he IS fringe. You're the dope my friend.

Sorry, truth hurts.
 
Thing1 said:
I'll even help you out, since you're clearly dopey. I think what you're trying to say is that I might be trying to minimize the Islamic connection, to make it less about the religion. Which is something I actually do, because I actually DO believe that these guys are anomalies, and don't define Islam.

But again - there is such a difference between that and 'defending terrorism.' I don't even know how you get to 'defending terrorism.' Can you just walk me through that thought process? How you see "what can we do about these lone wolf attacks...thoughts to Great Britain," and conclude that it seems like I'm defending violence and killing?
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I agree. Any extremist of any group is generally a problem and does not speak for the entire group as whole. As we had kind of discussed on an earlier thread, this probably has a lot more to do with a political agenda and not religion at all. They are just using it as a cover and are finding those easily influenced by their religion and using them as pawns.
 
Thing1 said:
It's not incongruous. Even if this was "lone wolf" (and it looks like it was pretty close to that), people talk. They have friends, family, neighbors, etc. At least if there is any intel, we stand a better chance of getting it.
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If they tell someone then they aren't really a lone wolf are they?

Fucking duh
 
Yaya said:
You idiot, did they not have a terror attack before this one? Did not the British IC say that was coordinated? And yet, you automatically downplay the very next terror attack by claiming, oh, oh, oh, it is just a lone wolf thing, no big deal, nothing to see here.

How many times do I have to say, I take it back, I don't think you are defending terrorism, but you sure seem to. It is like your lies with the fringe thing. I claimed Trump WAS fringe, and you kept saying I said he IS fringe. You're the dope my friend.

Sorry, truth hurts.
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You haven't really taken it back. Every time you do, you follow it up w/ the "but it seems like your posts are saying that."

I didn't say "nothing to see here." You're hopelessly dishonest. My 1st post on this thread was true frustration, like how do you stop these guys? I just watched "Patriots Day," which was 2 guys but the same idea. It's just so hard to spot, unless you can get tips.

Again, how you take that to "seem" like I'm defending violence...it's amazing. You're really sad.

And you said Trump was fringe until he renounced birtherism - well into his candidacy. And you also said Mitch McConnell & Congressional Republicans were fringe.

In short, you have major issues w/ the truth. Don't take my word for it; you're having about 3 different discussions w/ different posters right now, and they're all saying the same thing.
 
Thing1 said:
Religious freedom - one of the cornerstones of our country. Really, a huge part of the reason why many Europeans came here, and one of the core principles held dear by our founders.

Some sort of religious test or restriction makes us less American. The terrorists really win once we start dismantling our freedoms and changing who we are.
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Looking at ISIS pronouncements they don't think they are losing

But I do love the "if we defend ourselves the terrorists win argument"
 
Hey, Yurt - I take back what I said about Nugent. You don't really support his violent rhetoric.

But you sure SEEM to, every time you post.

How does that one sit, just out of curiosity?
 
Thing1 said:
You haven't really taken it back. Every time you do, you follow it up w/ the "but it seems like your posts are saying that."

I didn't say "nothing to see here." You're hopelessly dishonest. My 1st post on this thread was true frustration, like how do you stop these guys? I just watched "Patriots Day," which was 2 guys but the same idea. It's just so hard to spot, unless you can get tips.

Again, how you take that to "seem" like I'm defending violence...it's amazing. You're really sad.

And you said Trump was fringe until he renounced birtherism - well into his candidacy. And you also said Mitch McConnell & Congressional Republicans were fringe.

In short, you have major issues w/ the truth. Don't take my word for it; you're having about 3 different discussions w/ different posters right now, and they're all saying the same thing.
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You have voices in your head.

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Thing1 said:
I didn't say "if we defend ourselves." I said if we start restricting the freedoms that define us as a country.
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How exactly are the freedoms of non citizens being infringed upon?

Are you saying there is some inherent right in the US Constitution to immigrate to this country?
 
Thing1 said:
You make such a mistake w/ this. This is one dude - just like the guy in Portland last week was one dude.

These are lunatics. This isn't religion. If you want to make it religion, I'm sure more lunatics will comply.

I'm not sure if you realize how much you & yours might be feeding this problem.
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No, it's not one dude. If you add up all of the "one dudes" you've got a shitload of dudes.

We need to stop putting religion on a pedestal it doesn't deserve and start holding these cults responsible for the actions of their members. I'm not just talking about Islam.
 
Jarod said:
Panic, run, change your lifestyle and values. They are after us!!!
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Awwww look at the tough guy. Yup. There is zero threat. Good lap dog for islum. Have you fitted your daughter and wife for their burkas yet to show solidarity?

Remember when you bragged about your spawn winning some award for embracing queer culture? Imagine what they will get for wearing burkas.
 
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