Getin the ring
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are you really this clueless?
I would not think that to be possible but with every post you just get dumber
The Confederate origins of Memorial Day
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are you really this clueless?
I would not think that to be possible but with every post you just get dumber
Lightbringer
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He is that clueless.
Getin the ring
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that's as childish as your cute little .gif
treason? History books are a beautiful thing, and if reading is not your strong suit get someone to read on the subject to you
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
Lightbringer
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Excellent retort dumbass. btw, I love living rent free.
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
Nothing is free, racist...
Everyone here knows what you are.
That cost you any credibility you thought you might have had...
LMFAO
Getin the ring
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and racists like blackascoal will undoubtedly teach their children the views they hold onto, rather than actual history without these monuments and reminders.
I can not for the life of me understand how someone could let their blind racism keep them from feeling good in their own skin.
Accepting the past, living in the now and preparing for the future is what we teach our kids.
not
Living in the past, hating in the present, and ignoring the future
a shame, a real shame
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
I don't care about credibility, but you do.
Most people don't know what they know, but I do.
You don't matter, dingleberry.
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
The Confederate flag is 'America's swastika'
Mitt Romney stated recently that the Confederate flag was "a symbol of racial hatred" and asked that it be removed from South Carolina's capital to honor victims of Charleston's deadly church shooting. President Obama agreed with Romney and believes the Confederate flag "belongs in a museum." Even before Dylann Roof murdered nine African-Americans at a historically black church, Southern institutions had decided to part ways with this "symbol of racial hatred." According to former Ole Miss Chancellor Robert Khayat, the University of Mississippi chose to "disassociate" itself from the Confederate flag in the late 1990s and has prospered ever since:
So we decided we had to disassociate ourselves from the flag. ... Since that time, we are prospering at the university in ways that none of us could have imagined. ... Over time, people began to see that the benefit of not having that flag tied to our university, or vice versa, was far more valuable than the enjoyment that anybody received from waving that flag.
The University of South Carolina's football coach, Steve Spurrier, once stated: "I realize I'm not supposed to get in the political arena as a football coach, but if anybody were to ask me about that damn Confederate flag, I would say we need to get rid of it." In addition, the NCAA will not host March Madness tournaments in South Carolina, Mississippi or any state that flies the Confederate flag in its capitol.
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Furthermore, it's true that flags don’t kill, but murderers adhering to flawed notions of the past can be motivated by these dark symbols. Dylann Roof sat for one hour in Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church before murdering nine worshippers, and then opened fire, because "We have no skinheads, no real KKK." The Confederate flag represents a time when whites could legally intimidate and persecute blacks. It's America's swastika, and like Mayor Jackson once said, it's an embarrassment. If Ole Miss had the courage to ban the Confederate flag, others should do the right thing and jettison this symbol of white supremacy, slavery and injustice.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/245797-the-confederate-flag-is-americas-swastika
Mitt Romney stated recently that the Confederate flag was "a symbol of racial hatred" and asked that it be removed from South Carolina's capital to honor victims of Charleston's deadly church shooting. President Obama agreed with Romney and believes the Confederate flag "belongs in a museum." Even before Dylann Roof murdered nine African-Americans at a historically black church, Southern institutions had decided to part ways with this "symbol of racial hatred." According to former Ole Miss Chancellor Robert Khayat, the University of Mississippi chose to "disassociate" itself from the Confederate flag in the late 1990s and has prospered ever since:
So we decided we had to disassociate ourselves from the flag. ... Since that time, we are prospering at the university in ways that none of us could have imagined. ... Over time, people began to see that the benefit of not having that flag tied to our university, or vice versa, was far more valuable than the enjoyment that anybody received from waving that flag.
The University of South Carolina's football coach, Steve Spurrier, once stated: "I realize I'm not supposed to get in the political arena as a football coach, but if anybody were to ask me about that damn Confederate flag, I would say we need to get rid of it." In addition, the NCAA will not host March Madness tournaments in South Carolina, Mississippi or any state that flies the Confederate flag in its capitol.
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Furthermore, it's true that flags don’t kill, but murderers adhering to flawed notions of the past can be motivated by these dark symbols. Dylann Roof sat for one hour in Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church before murdering nine worshippers, and then opened fire, because "We have no skinheads, no real KKK." The Confederate flag represents a time when whites could legally intimidate and persecute blacks. It's America's swastika, and like Mayor Jackson once said, it's an embarrassment. If Ole Miss had the courage to ban the Confederate flag, others should do the right thing and jettison this symbol of white supremacy, slavery and injustice.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/245797-the-confederate-flag-is-americas-swastika
good point. regionalism is anti-Amerian at all times.It's also stupid
. One thing we learned from the Civil war is we are "The United States" not "These United States" as was commom parlance before the war.
you are making gross conflations,whereas I am making more subtle nuances ..which position is more accurate?
The fact you call Confederate soldiers "evil monsters" shows how far gone revisionism has taken us.
Grant and Lincoln did not call Confederates such, and they were contemporary. That should tell you something.
I trust the makers of history and great speechwriters of that time over the spastic revisionists who simply scream racism at every thing.
There are statues that do indeed need to come down..but not those to the battles/soldiers.
Riddle me this: do you want the monuments at Gettysburg to come down?
Have you ever seen them? You should.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I don't care what you call confederate soldiers. Why would you think I would?
You can call them saints if you want to .. but the bottom line is that these symbols and tributes to monsters WILL continue to come down. How do I know that .. because the loss of money and revenue will continue to force them down. What you think about that will be no factor in what happens.
Gettysburg should perhaps stand as a tribute to the defeat of evil, but I have zero interest in anything confederate other than the elimination of everything it stood for.
most German soldiers in WWII were not evil.
The exceptions were those like the Waffen-SS, or those that ran concentration camps.
The ordinary German soldier was just doing his duty.
You are labeling "ordinary" Confederates as innately evil. You may not care about, but I care about grotesque distortions of US history to serve a temporary PC or ideological bent.
I am not even in favor of Confederate flags on the statehouses ; it's an insult to blacks
and it's an official endorsement of the Confederacy by state government.
But there are appropriate public venues to honor the men. when you treat/call the men who fought in good conscience
and for righteous & just allegiance-to defend their state- "Nazis", you are grossly distorting true history.
Revisionism is an evil unto itself.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
What?
There were no innocent ordinary confederate soldiers .. not a goddamn one of them.
What, they didn't know that slavery, oppression, rape, torture, and murder of innocent people, including small children, was evil?'
"good conscience???" That's absolutely ridiculous.
I couldn't care less about 'ordinary' confederate soldiers .. may they all rot in Hell.
You are free to hold whatever views you choose to hold about monsters. I don't care.
What I care about is that tributes to these monsters come down, and as the nation gets browner, I have no doubt that they will and the rat-fuck confederacy and all its rat-fuck soldiers be remembered by future generations in the exact same boat that Hitler and the Nazis are in.
Not sure why I would or should think anything else.
Getin the ring
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You can't reach a racist my dear, blackascrap doesn't even know why he is mad anymore, he needs something to blame his low self esteem on.
That's what all of this black lives matter bullsh!t is about in America. It's all consuming
If they had their way they would wipe out the white race and call it even. You only have to look back as far as the OJ trial. They celebrated a double murder of two innocent people because it made them feel vindicated somehow that OJ got away with it. There's a misery inside most black people that I don't care to ever figure out, it's their lives, they waste it on what they may.
the browning of America need not equate the dumbing down of America to the simplistic nonsense you post.
Do you even understand that not all German soldiers were Nazi's?
Most of the wermacht fought for nationalism, the same thing Confederates fought for -their states..
They didn't look at the evils of slavery, because it was baked into the founders, and part of Antebellum South.
That's not to excuse them - afterall ignorance of evil still leaves evil, but the individual soldiers and even the generals were not politicians or philosophers for the most part. They simply were answering the call
to defend their state, and Yankee imperialism ( whatever that was called -im not up on the rhetoric)..
Recall not even Abe Lincoln wanted to fight a war over slavery -only the secession.
Bless his soul for the Emancipation Proclamation, but you have to seriously wonder if the Civil War
didn't happen, if he would have freed the slaves.
When you look back at history through today's values that anything - even the soldiers of the Confederacy-
were "racists"- you are not understanding the complexities, and the truths about the brave men on both sides.
They respected each other in battle as much as they were opposed to each other.
we should give them that same deference. It's who they were.
1938 Civil War reunion -Cemetery Ridge
Getin the ring
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exactly, would be like us labeling all people of color as drug dealers living off of inner city crime.
Some of us have stories passed down generations of how our ancestors wrestled with the evil of owning a man. treated slaves like they were family.
took their kids in like they were their own when the parents got sick or died.
Slavery was evil, Is evil in any form. We as a nation, not white or black should all be ashamed of that chapter in our history.
but to erase the monuments to the men who fought for what they believed in, that Northern disregard for the economic impact their industrialization reaped on Southern life, both slaves and whites alike is nothing more than
some desperate attempt to forget it happened, while denying there were other reasons besides slavery.