Aetna to Obamacare: We're outta here

[CFM]

It's not a perfect system, no one ever said it was .. certainly not me.

However, it's problems are not fatal and can be fixed by people who begin with the simple premise that Americans deserve better healthcare then what was the status quo.

I had healthcare for years under what you call the status quo. It worked fine for me. Where's the problem?

If you think someone deserves something they don't have, reach into YOUR pocket and fund it. Like a good little socialist you won't do that. You'll demand the rest of us be forced to accept and fund what you say someone else deserves. If you think you have a responsibility to them, get to stepping and pay for it. I don't hold any such responsibility.

 

[CFM]

I'm not sure you could find 10 people who have cancer arguing for return to the old system .. AND, cancer outcomes, diagnosis, and treatment have all significantly improved under Obamacare. That's also true of mental health by the way.

The Impact Of Obamacare On Cancer Outcomes Is Becoming Clearer
https://thinkprogress.org/the-impac...cer-outcomes-is-becoming-clearer-70d399949103

My mother had cancer under the old system. That was 25 years ago and she's still here today, boy.

 

[GazzaQueen]

Ya got nuthin'. I understand.

You understand you support killing babies. Get up, stand up, baby killer.

 

[CFM]

All you've done here is highlight the hypocrisy of repugs. They claim to be against abortion but have them anyway.

At least have the honesty to admit it.

There are plenty that claim to be Catholics yet still use birth control.

 

[CFM]

I've never killed a baby. Nor have I had an abortion.

Try harder.

You support it as a right.

 

[CFM]

You're like an effing cracked record!!

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You're a prime example of the pieces of shit I described that claim responsibility yet do nothing but demand others pay for it.

How many of those without healthcare are you personally willing to fund as an individual by having the bill sent directly to you? Unless it's more than zero, STFU.

 

[CFM]

Which is what happens over here.

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It's what can stay where you are.

I'm no expert in insurance but I'm an expert is knowing it's not my responsibility to fund healthcare for anyone but those of my choosing or MY family.

 

[cancel2 2022]

You're a prime example of the pieces of shit I described that claim responsibility yet do nothing but demand others pay for it.

How many of those without healthcare are you personally willing to fund as an individual by having the bill sent directly to you? Unless it's more than zero, STFU.

I live in England, you dozy cunt!!

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[CFM]

I live in England, you dozy cunt!!

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I knew that. I thought since you were going to run your dick sucker about what went on in the U.S. you might want to be a man and consider doing for those in the U.S. about whom you speak. Typical socialist minded piece of shit. Talk about what should be done then run from it when you're expected to do something about it.

How many do you personally and fully fund in England?

 

[cancel2 2022]

I knew that. I thought since you were going to run your dick sucker about what went on in the U.S. you might want to be a man and consider doing for those in the U.S. about whom you speak. Typical socialist minded piece of shit. Talk about what should be done then run from it when you're expected to do something about it.

How many do you personally and fully fund in England?

You are beyond insane, can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

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[Micawber]

I had healthcare for years under what you call the status quo. It worked fine for me. Where's the problem?

If you think someone deserves something they don't have, reach into YOUR pocket and fund it. Like a good little socialist you won't do that. You'll demand the rest of us be forced to accept and fund what you say someone else deserves. If you think you have a responsibility to them, get to stepping and pay for it. I don't hold any such responsibility.

Why can't you Republicans understand that we all believe in shared sacrifice and what a psychologist would refer to as "the group"? You simply believe in bombs and borders and we emphasize butter and education. Charity begins at home, remember?

Let's assume that the "other" problem was solved and all the "right" people were here. What then? Would the government wither away like Marx promised?

If you take the position that a human, i.e. Homosapien society requires no authority you need to research more monkey science, dr Zaius.

 

[Althea]

Moosecare. Seriously. It is genius and fair.

Nonsense. It relies on the govt to pick up the tab when people opt to self fund, and run out of money. Just re fund the risk corridor program until something better is crafted, and the system is running again.

The Feds owe millions of dollars to insurers, that was promised but never paid after House Republicans defunded risk corridors.

 

[Althea]

The ACA was so flawed that fixing it means to euthanize it. Dims had their big chance and blew it.

Why do you ignore the reasons for insurers leaving? Re. Aetna, they're butthurt because they were denied a takeover of Humana. As far as others, the Feds didn't stand by promises that were made in exchange for new mandatory coverages.

 

[CFM]

You are beyond insane, can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

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Insane is thinking that one group of people owe another group of people that don't have something whatever it is they don't have through taxes. That's you, socialist.

 

[CFM]

Why can't you Republicans understand that we all believe in shared sacrifice and what a psychologist would refer to as "the group"? You simply believe in bombs and borders and we emphasize butter and education. Charity begins at home, remember?

Let's assume that the "other" problem was solved and all the "right" people were here. What then? Would the government wither away like Marx promised?

If you take the position that a human, i.e. Homosapien society requires no authority you need to research more monkey science, dr Zaius.

It's not a sacrifice when it's mandated. It's also not a sacrifice when others are forced to do what you think they should do and it lessens your burden. It becomes a sacrifice when those thinking something should be done do it themselves because they think so. It's not my responsibility to provide someone with healthcare. If you think it is, start sacrificing YOUR money. I didn't earn what I earned in order that those not of my choosing get it.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Nonsense. It relies on the govt to pick up the tab when people opt to self fund,

You clearly don't understand Moosecare. Govt. isn't really involved except for the collection of funds that go into a pool administered by a private independent agency.
It also relies on that pool to pick up the tab when people opt not to self fund. That's the beauty of it. Those that self fund and don't use it can will it to the next generation (or to the healthcare pool if they so choose) who also has to pay into a gubmint system or an hsa making it less likely for that generation to use the administered pool. The key is that everybody pays into the healthcare system and it's to be used only for healthcare .
Presently hsa's can be used like an IRA if not used. Moosecare would eliminate that loophole.
As long as everybody is paying into the system it doesn't really matter if it's an hsa or the Independently administered pool.
HSA's would actually be more efficient because there's no administrative costs involved. I really don't know what there is to not like about all that from dims, repubs, progressives, regressives, moonbats, thugs, or fascists. It's simply fair.
Glad that I could clarify that for you.
If you have any other misconceptions or thoughts about what is unfair I'll be happy to address it.
Or any questions about it.

 

[Truth Detector]

No concern for the millions who will lose coverage?

This is a FAKE media narrative. What is even dumber is this notion that forcing people to buy insurance at higher costs is making everyone healthier.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Why do you ignore the reasons for insurers leaving? Re. Aetna, they're butthurt because they were denied a takeover of Humana. As far as others, the Feds didn't stand by promises that were made in exchange for new mandatory coverages.

Big insurance companies are beholden to stockholders so they don't make decisions based on whether they are butt hurt or not. That was just a patently dishonest and stupid post that, and you know it.

 

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[GazzaQueen]

Despite the tears, Aetna is still pulling out of Obamacare.