Trump's tax cut proposal

Jobs are created by entrepreneurs creating new businesses. The gov't roles is to create a framework for these businesses to operate in.

So when someone like TTQ64 says we need more jobs but essentially wants to punish businesses for being bad actors it is a very contradictory position.
 
cawacko said:
Jobs are created by entrepreneurs creating new businesses. The gov't roles is to create a framework for these businesses to operate in.

So when someone like TTQ64 says we need more jobs but essentially wants to punish businesses for being bad actors it is a very contradictory position.
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There is nothing contradictory about what I said.

Business, especially big business, is doing fine. They are making money hand over fist. They don't need tax cuts. They just don't want to hire so they can keep all the profits for themselves, and their share holders. They make their employees do more with less. They have managed to convince the public they need tax cuts to create jobs when that is nothing but a lie.

Besides that, we have jobs, jobs are out there, they just don't pay shit because of greed from the corporations.
 
TTQ64 said:
There is nothing contradictory about what I said.

Business, especially big business, is doing fine. They are making money hand over fist. They don't need tax cuts. They just don't want to hire so they can keep all the profits for themselves, and their share holders. They make their employees do more with less. They have managed to convince the public they need tax cuts to create jobs when that is nothing but a lie.

Besides that, we have jobs, jobs are out there, they just don't pay shit because of greed from the corporations.
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The market is the ultimate determinate of wages that are paid. Positions that take low education and are commodities aren't going to be high paying, there's too much demand. The opposite is true for many higher paying positions.
 
Thing1 said:
It's "trickle down" all over again.

It would even repeal the estate tax.
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The estate tax is government theft. A persons estate has already been taxed once. To tax it at time of death, a second time, is a gross act of injustice. Only socialists think a man has no right to a legacy of his wealth being gifted to his family. Average Liberals are greedy, and stupid fucking Bastards. Stupid because they are idiotic enough to think stealing a dead mans wealth and giving it to our government is a good use of wealth.
 
J Craft said:
The estate tax is government theft. A persons estate has already been taxed once. To tax it at time of death, a second time, is a gross act of injustice. Only socialists think a man has no right to a legacy of his wealth being gifted to his family. Average Liberals are greedy, and stupid fucking Bastards. Stupid because they are idiotic enough to think stealing a dead mans wealth and giving it to our government is a good use of wealth.
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Our founders weren't socialists.
 
Yaya said:
What do you think will create jobs? More government spending?

I hope Trump follows through on his massive infrastructure plan. I'm pissed off that there has been no mention of this, I know he is trying to get this other stuff through first, but, that is one of the campaign promises I hope he keeps.
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ROFL!

ANOTHER post where the YurTard "really lets Trump have it ".

Don't sugar coat it , tell everyone what you really think.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
ROFL!

ANOTHER post where the YurTard "really lets Trump have it ".

Don't sugar coat it , tell everyone what you really think.
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What if you actually commented on the topic for once Zap instead of commenting on other posters? What did Trump say differently on the campaign trail compared to what's in his tax proposal that makes you believe Trump voters got conned?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
ROFL!

ANOTHER post where the YurTard "really lets Trump have it ".

Don't sugar coat it , tell everyone what you really think.
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I just said what I think. What part needs further clarification?

Nice job with the petty personal attacks. Why do you complain about petty personal attacks when you dish them out all the time?
 
If we can't get them to pay taxes when they are alive, well take it when they die.

Always trying to get out of paying taxes...evil, greedy fucks.
 
TTQ64 said:
If we can't get them to pay taxes when they are alive, well take it when they die.

Always trying to get out of paying taxes...evil, greedy fucks.
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So you are saying you pay more than you are legally obligated to?

What deductions do you forgo in an effort to pay MORE in taxes?

Please list them
 
TTQ64 said:
Make your point.
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What tax deductions to you ignore? You do realize that you aren't legally obligated to take deductions. So you are free to pay MORE in taxes to help the poor which I hear liberals claim all the time. But, when challenged with this very question they backtrack. Will you? Or will you lie?

Come on let's be honest. Not only do you take EVERY deduction, but you probably cheat on your taxes too. For example, ever claim charitable deductions you never made? Bet you have. Do you declare sales tax that you didn't pay for online purchases? Most states give you a chance on your state income tax to pay the sales tax you didn't pay for online purchases. Bet you don't.

So you are probably a tax cheat yourself, but you try to sound bold yelling about the rich. You only look petty and small.
 
cawacko said:
The richest 1% in our state pay basically half the income taxes. You're arguing that greedy and evil rich people don't pay when clearly they do.
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Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?
 
Cypress said:
Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?
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Income taxes by far make up the largest chunk of taxes collected by the state hence why they get the most discussion. I don't hear any of our Democratic politicians in the state saying we should reduce our gas or sales tax.
 
btw just a summary of the tax plan

*Corporate tax rate of 15%
*Double the standard individual tax deduction
*A one-time repatriation tax
*Eliminate the estate tax
*Eliminate itemized tax deductions other than charitable donations and mortgage payments
*Repeal 3.8% tax on net investment income
*Repeal the alternative minimum tax
 
Cypress said:
Well that totally makes sense since the top one percent own well over 50 percent of the wealth of the nation.

What I have noticed is that conservatives never want to talk about the aggregate tax burden, they only want to talk about income tax.

So my question to you is: What percentage of sales taxes, gas taxes, fees, and payroll taxes are paid by the bottom 99 percent? Pretty much all of it, eh?
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Really?

The top 1% don't pay gasoline taxes? Payroll taxes? And according to you they don't buy stuff.

You might want to back up your claim with statistics and facts not wild supposition

I agree with that great liberal Thomas Jefferson. The poor should pay a higher tax rate. We would have fewer poor people
 
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