Health Care Is Not A Right!

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It's impossible to discuss an issue with someone of such massive ignorance as you. Since you were corrected once on my stance, now you have wandered, as you are wont to do, into the realm of the liar. Lying Pussy. Dubious distinction, LP.

The General Welfare Clause gives Congress broad authority to not only spend money for the 'general welfare', but gives them discretionary powers to determine what the'general welfare' is. Don't like that part of the Constitution, cherry-picking cocksucker? Tough shit. The Clause is in there and has been ruled upon. And, despite what your little peabrain thinks, it does not render the Constitution meaningless.

APP debate? lol You're getting your scrawny ass handed to you here. With every post. Not even a contest.

Fucking Constitutional cretin.

Another from James Madison

If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions. It is to be remarked that the phrase out of which this doctrine is elaborated, is copied from the old articles of Confederation, where it was always understood as nothing more than a general caption to the specified powers, and it is a fact that it was preferred in the new instrument for that very reason as less liable than any other to misconstruction.

 

[domer76]

You are still wrong

Write the SCOTUS with your bitch. Butler and Dole are two cases which validate my claim.

 

[domer76]

James Madison's thoughts on General Welfare Clause

With respect to the two words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.

Madison lost. Hamilton won. Get over it.

 

[Lightbringer]

Another from James Madison

If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions. It is to be remarked that the phrase out of which this doctrine is elaborated, is copied from the old articles of Confederation, where it was always understood as nothing more than a general caption to the specified powers, and it is a fact that it was preferred in the new instrument for that very reason as less liable than any other to misconstruction.

I notice you didn't go with Thomas Jefferson.

 

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Write the SCOTUS with your bitch. Butler and Dole are two cases which validate my claim.

Butler and Dole misinterpret the intention

But maybe you think Courts NEVER get it wrong?

As I said, short of Jeffersons desire to rewrite the Constitution every 19 years you have nothing. Even Hamilton who supported big gubmint acknowledged the limits

Let me ask this question? Would it be Constitutional under the General Welfare to require every citizen above 18 to buy a gun? If not. Why not?

 

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I notice you didn't go with Thomas Jefferson.

Jefferson agrees with me

 

[Lightbringer]

Jefferson agrees with me

Sure about that?

 

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Sure about that?

1000%

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/201...-of-the-commerce-and-general-welfare-clauses/

I forgive your ignorance. You were educated in public schools.

I guess I should lobby Congress to buy me an AR15 for my "General Welfare"

 

[domer76]

Butler and Dole misinterpret the intention

But maybe you think Courts NEVER get it wrong?

As I said, short of Jeffersons desire to rewrite the Constitution every 19 years you have nothing. Even Hamilton who supported big gubmint acknowledged the limits

Let me ask this question? Would it be Constitutional under the General Welfare to require every citizen above 18 to buy a gun? If not. Why not?

I know, I know. Whenever you or that dumbass, Smarterthanyou, disagree with SCOTUS, it's always "SCOTUS got it wrong".

Re: Jefferson's quote, you asked for a founder's quote and I provided it. Now you whine about the response, pusswipe.

Everybody over 18 buy a gun? lol What kind of pathetic, diversional bullshit tactic is that?

You're really flailing here, pally boy. Once again, you got your ass handed to you. Let it go with no additional idiotic points or questions like that.

 

[Lightbringer]

1000%

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/201...-of-the-commerce-and-general-welfare-clauses/

I forgive your ignorance. You were educated in public schools.

I guess I should lobby Congress to buy me an AR15 for my "General Welfare"

I wasn't educated in public schools. I was taught by Jesuits.

 

[Lightbringer]

1000%

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/201...-of-the-commerce-and-general-welfare-clauses/

I forgive your ignorance. You were educated in public schools.

I guess I should lobby Congress to buy me an AR15 for my "General Welfare"

BTW, just read your provided link, you are a dishonest fucker. That had nothing to do with Jefferson's view on healthcare.

 

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I know, I know. Whenever you or that dumbass, Smarterthanyou, disagree with SCOTUS, it's always "SCOTUS got it wrong".

Re: Jefferson's quote, you asked for a founder's quote and I provided it. Now you whine about the response, pusswipe.

Everybody over 18 buy a gun? lol What kind of pathetic, diversional bullshit tactic is that?

You're really flailing here, pally boy. Once again, you got your ass handed to you. Let it go with no additional idiotic points or questions like that.

Ummm I asked you for a quote of a founding father saying the Constitution was a "living document". You found nothing with those two words. So you failed.

OK so you think the courts ALWAYS get it right. Good to know. Next time one of your fellow libtards bitches about Citizen United, I can count on you to tell them the court is always right.

I am glad you agree that corporations are people. The court says so. And you think they are infallible


As to the comment about guns, there is nothing diversionary about it. Your position is that Congress determines what the General Welfare is. So there is nothing to stop a Congress from doing that is there?

 

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BTW, just read your provided link, you are a dishonest fucker. That had nothing to do with Jefferson's view on healthcare.

Ummmm, I wasn't talking about Jeffersons view on healthcare. We were discussing the General Welfare Clause

Did you miss that?

Maybe you should pay more attention before you stick your nose in

 

[Lightbringer]

Ummmm, I wasn't talking about Jeffersons view on healthcare. We were discussing the General Welfare Clause

Did you miss that?

Maybe you should pay more attention before you stick your nose in

For our purposes one and the same, and that makes you a doubly dishonest fucker.

 

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For our purposes one and the same, and that makes you a doubly dishonest fucker.

You are a liar and trying to help out your butt buddy Gomer. You fail

 

[Lightbringer]

You are a liar and trying to help out your butt buddy Gomer. You fail

You posted a link and misrepresented what it said.

 

[domer76]

Ummm I asked you for a quote of a founding father saying the Constitution was a "living document". You found nothing with those two words. So you failed.

OK so you think the courts ALWAYS get it right. Good to know. Next time one of your fellow libtards bitches about Citizen United, I can count on you to tell them the court is always right.

I am glad you agree that corporations are people. The court says so. And you think they are infallible


As to the comment about guns, there is nothing diversionary about it. Your position is that Congress determines what the General Welfare is. So there is nothing to stop a Congress from doing that is there?

Jefferson proposed changing the Constitution every 19 years. How much more "living document" do you want. He thought the current generation should not be held to the standards of the previous.

Another bullshit diversionary tactic. You're very practiced at that. That, or you're propensity for misinterpreting and/or lying about posts. I lean toward all of the above. A Dumbfuck that can't comprehend posts, diverts from their content and lies constantly about their intent and content.

Find where I said SCOTUS always gets thing right. You can't. What I DO see is that whenever you or that other Constitutional ignoramus don't like the decision(s), they are always wrong. Pathetic.

Guns required for everybody in the interest of the 'General Welfare'? Just fucking priceless! What an imagination you have.

Constitutional cretin.

 

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You posted a link and misrepresented what it said.

Prove it

 

[Lightbringer]

Another bullshit diversionary tactic. You're very practiced at that. That, or you're propensity for misinterpreting and/or lying about posts. I lean toward all of the above. A Dumbfuck that can't comprehend posts, diverts from their content and lies constantly about their intent and content.

Find where I said SCOTUS always gets thing right. You can't. What I DO see is that whenever you or that other Constitutional ignoramus don't like the decision(s), they are always wrong. Pathetic.

Guns required for everybody in the interest of the 'General Welfare'? Just fucking priceless! What an imagination you have.

Constitutional cretin.

Their tunnel-vision always does them in.

 

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Another bullshit diversionary tactic. You're very practiced at that. That, or you're propensity for misinterpreting and/or lying about posts. I lean toward all of the above. A Dumbfuck that can't comprehend posts, diverts from their content and lies constantly about their intent and content.

Find where I said SCOTUS always gets thing right. You can't. What I DO see is that whenever you or that other Constitutional ignoramus don't like the decision(s), they are always wrong. Pathetic.

Guns required for everybody in the interest of the 'General Welfare'? Just fucking priceless! What an imagination you have.

Constitutional cretin.

Well of course if I think they are wrong, I don't like the decision.

You don't? Or do you like the decision but think they are wrong? Or do you oppose the decision and think they are right? Can you give examples of each?

I am giving you an example of something that could be passed using the General Welfare Clause. You claim it is unlimited. Or if you aren't claiming unlimited spending power for the gobblement tell me what limits you think there are?

I can wait