OUR PRISONS ARE OVERCROWDED!
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No, just those like you that think it's one group's place to pay for the bad choices of another group.
If someone does something that causes a bad situation in their life, it's not anyone's place but theirs to pay the price for having done so.
No, it's fuck the pieces of shit that make bad choices then demand someone else pay the price to offset their worthless ways.
If you think that some piece of shit deserves what I earned, do you have the guts to come and try to get it from me on their behalf? Unless you are, I AM the fucking king of what I earned you fucking road whore.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Calm down CFM...we all want you to be able to pay off your double wide.
You may think that shooting those who annoy you is going to solve problems but that doesn't work either. It's far better if we treat these peoples disease and return them to productivity and will cost you far less of your hard earned tax dollars than imprisoning them does. As for shooting them well let's just say there are some issues involving humanity, morality and ethics that prevent us from doing so but we will spare you those details as obviously they aren't important to you.
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Which police force has been replaced by a corporation?
At that point they are placing other people's bodies at risk.
You get to do what you want with your own body, until you take other people and put them at risk. So, you can get as drunk as you want without my interference, but you cannot take to the road and put my child at risk. It is relatively simple. You can put yourself at risk of death as much as you want, but you can't make that choice for others.
Indeed. Yet incentivizing immorality in other aspects of lives is ignored by some people without regard to the cost to society. I even gave an example. Again it is the results that one should look at rather than the emotion. While we get off track here, the reality is often underlined by one group constantly talking about what we have created an incentive for, and the other group ignoring it.
In this case that specific person I was talking to tried to take that tack here, and I spoke to the audience I was having the conversation with. I understood that some liberals would get all "but that isn't true!" and ignore the instances where it was. I was simply telling the person I replied to why he doesn't get to pretend that "his version" was better, because the result is the same. Shoot his version was even worse because in his world he gets to use the prisoners labor for his own specific profit doubling the instances of incentive to continue holding prisoners past their normal point of release.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Correction officers.
Those types won't be productive until they choose to be productive. Wasting money on trying to do for them what they've shown by their actions they don't want to do is not getting the job done.
The way they need to be imprisoned would cost very little. Bread and water is cheap.
Which is the point of conversation here, STY was saying that police for profit was worse than this, and I want him to tell me which civilian police force has been replaced by a corporation.
Pointless, Mott. You're talking to a guy who feels is perfectly justifiable to shoot the neighbor's dog for crapping on his lawn.
That's the point I've been trying to make with SmarterThanYou. He considers things like DUI checkpoints as unconstitutional and something that violates the 4th amendment. He fails to acknowledge what you say that while someone doing what he/she wants with his/her body is their place, doing what they want should not put someone else's life at risk.
What's pointless is expecting a coward like you to do what you said about coming where I am. It's to a point know that I know you're too much of a coward to show up. However, like I said, you can be there when I slop it to your wife. Funny how you're gone when I'm there.
He does have a point, treating everybody like there is reason to believe that they are drunk is not "reasonable" search. While DUI laws are reasonable, constitutional, and even make sense; simply saying that instead of actually looking for reasons we'll just make everybody show their papers and subject themselves to search is not constitutional, reasonable and doesn't make much sense.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
And a fine point you made too but maybe you should have stuck to the facts, and practiced what you preach, instead of emoting an ad hom logical fallacy and emoting your ideological bias. It would stand to reason that others would be less harshly critical of your emoting.
Whether you feel that DUI checkpoints make sense or not, they have been deemed Constitutional.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Was just answering your question Holme.
What do you suggest about how to deal with stopping drunk driving? STY said that life is a risk implying that being subjected to drunk drivers on the road was part of life's risk.