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Even Trump voters.

This healthcare fiasco is incredibly revealing. A boon for the rich, and a measure that won't just hurt the poor & middle class - it will crush them. All Trump's surrogates are left with is trashing the CBO (just as they've had to discredit our intelligence agencies, the press & everyone else).

All of those blue collar & working class Trump voters are starting to understand. I don't even feel like an "I told you so," because desperation can lead you to believe, or want to believe, just about anything. I just feel bad that millions were SO desperate that they bought this fraud's act.

To think that a guy like Kasich could be President right now. What a disgusting mess. The ONLY silver lining to any of this is that maybe - just maybe - voters will learn this time.

Trump was never for you, he was never "one of you." Trump is a billionaire, with billionaire friends, who only cares about his ego and his fortune. Wearing a red baseball cap doesn't make him "just folks."
 
Half of his support will deny that they or others were hurt by Trump policies... The other half won't give a shit.
 
Thing1 said:
Even Trump voters.

This healthcare fiasco is incredibly revealing. A boon for the rich, and a measure that won't just hurt the poor & middle class - it will crush them. All Trump's surrogates are left with is trashing the CBO (just as they've had to discredit our intelligence agencies, the press & everyone else).

All of those blue collar & working class Trump voters are starting to understand. I don't even feel like an "I told you so," because desperation can lead you to believe, or want to believe, just about anything. I just feel bad that millions were SO desperate that they bought this fraud's act.

To think that a guy like Kasich could be President right now. What a disgusting mess. The ONLY silver lining to any of this is that maybe - just maybe - voters will learn this time.

Trump was never for you, he was never "one of you." Trump is a billionaire, with billionaire friends, who only cares about his ego and his fortune. Wearing a red baseball cap doesn't make him "just folks."
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It isn't Trumps bill. Ryan is a scumbag. They can repeal it but they are pussies in Congress and I suspect Ryan would like nothing more than see Trump fail

But hey as long as someone else pays for your healthcare right?
 
it's also going to fail. Why do you think breitbart just released that stuff on ryan? trump has been making ryan feel overconfident and now he's pulling the rug out and making ryan look like a dopey fool
 
Ken is a troll and should die of AIDS said:
poor takers don't deserve shit
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Then CAMPAIGN THAT WAY. Don't pull any punches on it. Present yourself as a survival of the fittest candidate.

Don't say that your going to replace the ACA with a plan that is BETTER, and that covers ALL AMERICANS. Don't say that everyone is going to have even better healthcare, with more choice.

In short, don't lie constantly. It's not a high bar.
 
it doesn't take in "phases II" and 'Phase III". but who really knows what will happen if it passes?
Ifit doesn't we are left with Obamacare in a death spiral..nothing here looks like a good option except single pay
 
Why can't everybody just get insurance wherever they want from any state they want?
Those who can't afford insurance will get Medicaid.
 
anatta said:
it doesn't take in "phases II" and 'Phase III". but who really knows what will happen if it passes?
Ifit doesn't we are left with Obamacare in a death spiral..nothing here looks like a good option except single pay
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One guys says it, and the parrots just repeat it as though it's gospel.
 
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Thing1 said:
Then CAMPAIGN THAT WAY. Don't pull any punches on it. Present yourself as a survival of the fittest candidate.

Don't say that your going to replace the ACA with a plan that is BETTER, and that covers ALL AMERICANS. Don't say that everyone is going to have even better healthcare, with more choice.

In short, don't lie constantly. It's not a high bar.
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you have to lie to idiot americans to get anything done. They are all fucking dumb. 90% of the country shouldn't be allowed to vote. Why do you think Obama's #1 guy talked about lying to the american people to pass the fucking thing in the first place? What happened to if you like your plan you could keep your plan?

The poor, the takers, do not deserve the truth. They don't deserve respect, they don't deserve anything but scorn.
 
Thing1 said:
Um, yeah - it was. Look at how people are reacting to this.

And it will DEFINITELY be better for 24 million more people in 10 years.
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if it's so great, you shouldn't have to force people to buy it.

And the reason we have to force people to buy it, is because of idiot takers with pre-existing conditions. Perhaps they should have been smart enough to buy insurance before getting cancer. They made a bet and they lost. Why should I have to pay for someones irresponsibility?

Insurance for people with pre-existing conditions doesn't even make sense. It's like getting car insurance after you've totaled your car. Or buying home insurance after your home burnt down. What does any insurance company have to do with a pile of burning rubble? People don't even know what the fuck the meaning of the word insurance is anymore.

People that made poor decisions need to be taught a harsh lesson. If you dont buy insurance and you get sick, that's on you. No one should be forced to pay for A TAKERS MISTAKES
 
Thing1 said:
Then CAMPAIGN THAT WAY. Don't pull any punches on it. Present yourself as a survival of the fittest candidate.

Don't say that your going to replace the ACA with a plan that is BETTER, and that covers ALL AMERICANS. Don't say that everyone is going to have even better healthcare, with more choice.

In short, don't lie constantly. It's not a high bar.
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You were lied to every step of the way during Obamacare

As to what is happening now, I predicted the fecklessness of Ryan and McConnell and true to form they are not disappointing me
 
Teflon Don said:
You were lied to every step of the way during Obamacare

As to what is happening now, I predicted the fecklessness of Ryan and McConnell and true to form they are not disappointing me
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I think the healthcare dirge is a tad premature lol.

I've been saying for ten years that healthcare is a complex issue which begs for an incremental solution.

Yes, I feel vindicated. And Trump was mocked but he's right: it's more complicated than people realized.

There's plenty to not like about the proposed bill but it's not the finished product, either. In fact, don't even name the damned thing because the last thing we need is something etched in stone.
 
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