Obamacare Lite is out!

anatta said:
really? Trump needs to step up and demand that..
There is also a reduction to Medicade expansion ( if you can follow that) which is fine for cutting back
on Obama care as an entitlement ( which it is) but leaves states hanging.

At this point I'd be just as reckless with the deficit as the Dems and keep the expansion-
or they are gonna lose support )
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No, it is not an Entitlement.
So called Entitlements are self funding.
 
Norah said:
The access would improve in my opinion if insurance companies could compete across state lines. My resistance to universal healthcare isn't about politics its about following the rules, so following the constitution. If a new amendment were passed authorizing the federal government to provide such a thing, as intended by the founders, then i'd be more accepting of the idea.
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It passed SCOTUS muster, sister.
Think on that a bit.
 
Irish said:
Not as good? Anything is better than Obamacare as it was you buffoon.

This is what happens when you try to do something moderate, or meet in the middle. The left still mocks you and calls you a moron for trying. They can't be bargained or compromised with.
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Yes, claim victory after another defeat." You got played!"
 
Norah said:
Oh, well then I won't say thank you. My main point of view centers on individual freedom and a dependence on self, not government. It's how I was raised and it's what I firmly believe in.
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So you pay rent, food, tuition, carand health insurance bills?

LMFAO.

YOU ARE A TYPICAL "CONSERVATIVE"
which translates into selfish in any other language.
 
Norah said:
I'm not sure why you think that about me based on my opinion on our constitution. Look life is not fair and I'm realistic enough and honest enough to accept that fact. We are all entitled to equal opportunity thanks to our constitution but not equal outcome. We are all responsible for our own success, our own choices, our own health, our own happiness and the pursuit of that happiness even if we never fully reach it. We should never be jealous or resentful of someone else's successes, someone else's health, someone else's correct choices, or someone else's happiness. I personally believe that we are doing people a disservice by reinforcing the notion that they aren't capable of their own success, health, choices, or happiness. That being said we have a constitution that was created to describe what our government can do, not what they can't do. If we as Americans through our elected representatives pass an amendment to the constitution allowing OUR federal government OUR authority to enact a public healthcare system then that I would support that effort. Until then though the 10th amendment puts the onus on the states.
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The general welfare clause you silly child.
 
Norah said:
Why are you so hostile towards me? My interpretation of the constitution keeps the power with us and not them. If you talk to most anybody they will always express their lack of trust with government and elected politicians. It's why our congress approval ratings are absolutely terrible. Government bureaucracy, especially the larger it gets, is one of the most inefficient and wasteful things in existence. Why would you want to entrust that same government with things like healthcare, education, and other vital things to your life? Why give them power that you can never have back again?
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That would be because you espouse selfish hypocrisy through your self righteous ignorance.
 
Norah said:
Prior to Obamacare passing were those same people who didn't have coverage dying by the thousands the day before it passed? I don't know what Jesus would do about universal healthcare and I don't want to speak for Him, but I know that you don't need government funded healthcare to believe that He is with you even on your hardest days.
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You mean let them die and let Jesus figure it out?
 
Norah said:
Prior to Obamacare passing were those same people who didn't have coverage dying by the thousands the day before it passed? I don't know what Jesus would do about universal healthcare and I don't want to speak for Him, but I know that you don't need government funded healthcare to believe that He is with you even on your hardest days.
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Yes they were dying.
Mothers, daughters, sisters, brothers, sons and fathers.
 
Bigdog said:
When will you take your vow of poverty and dedicate your life to helping the poor, Mother Theresa? ... otherwise, you're just playing Nazi authoritarain demanding thet everyone else give more as you languish in your white liberal gated community sipping lattes. Liberal hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Every breath I take helps humanity you fat fuck.
When I catch a load of fish I feed humanity like Jesus did.
When I build a handrail for your mother's front step I help humanity and when I post here about the selfishness of conservatives I help humanity.
I don't live in a gated community and I don't drink lattes.

What do you do to help people?

It is my life's work.
 
Hi
Truth Detector said:
Single payer is hardly inevitable; we haven't ended up with anything. What we have now is a costly abomination built on a lie and a straight party vote excluding any dissent.

What we will get is something that is not a government mandate, places healthcare decisions back where it belongs, in the hands of the people who need it.

The dumbest plan on the planet is one where willful gullible sheep hand over their health care decisions to faceless professional bureaucrats whose main cost control mechanism is limiting healthcare choices and access.
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Truth Detector said:
Single payer is hardly inevitable; we haven't ended up with anything. What we have now is a costly abomination built on a lie and a straight party vote excluding any dissent.

What we will get is something that is not a government mandate, places healthcare decisions back where it belongs, in the hands of the people who need it.

The dumbest plan on the planet is one where willful gullible sheep hand over their health care decisions to faceless professional bureaucrats whose main cost control mechanism is limiting healthcare choices and access.
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So instead you hand your decisions over to faceless healthcare corporations instead. Aetna wants to buy Humana, that won't achieve economies of scale but an even bigger behemoth that can browbeat hospitals and maximise profits.
anatta said:
you do realize Medicade is gov't funded healthcare..?
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Excellent point, so how was that passed? According to Norah the Constitution forbids federal healthcare!!

Sent from Lenovo K5 Note:
To piss off snowflakes, bottom feeders and racists
 
Rune said:
Because they are disingenuous posers.

They passed it when they knew it wouldn't be signed by Obama, for show.

Now they have to worry about being re-elected.
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I agree that many of them did it for show. I'm very supportive of and happy that Rand Paul and others are calling them out on it.
 
Norah said:
The access would improve in my opinion if insurance companies could compete across state lines. My resistance to universal healthcare isn't about politics its about following the rules, so following the constitution. If a new amendment were passed authorizing the federal government to provide such a thing, as intended by the founders, then i'd be more accepting of the idea.
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You don't think the Founders felt that health insurance should be affordable?
 
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