What did Noah build the Ark with and what it says about OEC

Are you taking lessons from TapsOut on cowardice?

Why do you accept OEC over YEC?





Then he let us eat meat. Praise the Lord!

Not sure why responding to every one of your points is cowardice....but I do note that you never respond to mine....


I'm pretty sure I just explained that, but for the simple minded.....I believe in creation....I do not believe in a young earth....I will also point out that the Bible doesn't mention a young earth.....that is a belief of a handful of Christiansome and all atheists.....
 
Right, dugouts and rafts, if that 50000 years ago. I don't know about any skin covered boat. Where is there proof of those with stone age tools?

It would have been a struggle to build anything capable of carrying the people alone.

Here are some other insights:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328544-800-neanderthals-were-ancient-mariners/

https://phys.org/news/2012-03-evidence-neanderthals-boats-modern-humans.html

Science and Archeology are finding new stuff all the time.
 
I take that as a "no".

Pussy

You would be wrong little man. Fact is you are too ignorant to hold an intellectual discussion with. Insignificant. As you can see people with intellect are trying to have somewhat of a discussion. You are not included in that group. Run along now.
 
The God of the gaps fallacy.

It's weird though because with every naturalistic stone unturned it raises even more questions. For example, positing a naturalistic explanation for origins looked like an easy hurdle to clear in Darwin's day: they probably thought it would be solved by the end of the century.

But a century and a half later, we're seemingly farther away from the answer than we were when cells were assumed to non-descript blobs of protoplasm.

Some could argue it takes less faith to believe in Noah.

They could be making a weak argument, to put it as diplomatically as my conscience will allow. The world is more interesting with continuing questions anyway. What makes empiricism, the scientific method and a secular philosophy more interesting to me is the fact that it is a method and a process. Another good example like your Darwinian example is physics, of course, and the chaos and randomness of matter popping in and out of our universe at that level, newtonian laws operating perfectly in the main, but falling down in the subatomic level and nearing light speed. My point, I think, stands though. And of course the religious institutions and their collective beliefs lag behind like any stultified bureaucracy, only to catch up in bit and fits and starts as some priests effect codicils which are disseminated to the mind controlled flock. Sort of like an earthquake relieving pent up stress on a plate fault. THe fact that it was the scientific advancement is lost as those with magical thinking simply coopt the discovery or invention as Gods, like Buzz Aldrin claiming the whole fucking moon for the USA.
 
Not sure why responding to every one of your points is cowardice....but I do note that you never respond to mine....


I'm pretty sure I just explained that, but for the simple minded.....I believe in creation....I do not believe in a young earth....I will also point out that the Bible doesn't mention a young earth.....that is a belief of a handful of Christiansome and all atheists.....


No, you obviously did not answer it and still have not. What makes you believe in an old earth or (since this was going to be your answer) why do you not believe in a young earth? What facts, scripture etc led you to believe the earth is older than 6000-10000 years?

Of course, the bible supports a young earth and OEC are the newcomers. Don't bother lying. Tell us about your sabbath and it's importance.

What point did I miss? Let's see you made a crack about miniaturization. IDK, what that thread was about, I assumed you had once claimed God met Rick Moranis and shrunk the inhabitants of the ark. Sounds like some nonsense you'd claim.

The only other point was you acknowledging my point that you have a deep seated need to feel special and be reaffirmed. No point in commenting further there.

Anything else?
 

Thanks, I already looked at some of that. As your first link points out there is no real proof they did not swim or were not "rafted" over as other animals are known to be.

EDIT: Besides that, I don't think anyone is suggesting they built something that could carry large groups or animals. It appears they are speculating that they built rafts and dugouts.
 
Those neanderthals...

I think they hold the key to the theology of PiMPle 5.0.

Some day in the future, to make it more palatable, those who demand Genesis/OT contains any literal history, will tell us that Noah grabbed hold of a large tree and managed to get his family and a few chickens on board before being swept out to sea. The flood, of course, was catastrophic but only killed the asshole vegetarians in Noah's village. Noah landed on an island and ate one of those chickens. It was good and a rainbow appeared. God gave us chicken because he loves us and you are going to go nuts when you try a steak (which will somehow be tied in with Jesus).
 
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What facts led you to believe the earth is older than 6000-10000 years?

perhaps that we have samples of Sumerian writing older than 6000 years?.......why do you believe Christians have to believe in a 6000 year old earth?....

Of course, the bible supports a young earth
only if you are an extreme literalist......I've never actually known a young earther......the only people I know who think the Bible supports a young earth are actually atheists......
 
What point did I miss? Let's see you made a crack about miniaturization. IDK, what that thread was about,

I don't know either, but you're the idiot who brought it up....

I am not sure why PiMPle is an OEC at all if he is going to accept the possibility of nonsense like miniaturization.
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The only other point was you acknowledging my point that you have a deep seated need to feel special and be reaffirmed.

I have no needs......I am special and I have been affirmed.......
 
What? A whole 'nother thread of Dick being a dick?

I don't have to read it to conclude that he is assigning everyone literal Biblical beliefs, ignoring all comments to the contrary of that, and dishonestly presenting straw men?
 
perhaps that we have samples of Sumerian writing older than 6000 years?.......why do you believe Christians have to believe in a 6000 year old earth?....

So the Sumerian writings are beyond God's power but not the problem with the boat size or the biogeography? I mean, forgeries are pretty easy and don't even require magic. How do you decide when to invoke magic?

As I have explained, if you are arguing that Genesis (especially the first 11 chapters) contains the account of any historical events then it had to have occurred within the last ten thousand years.


only if you are an extreme literalist......I've never actually known a young earther......the only people I know who think the Bible supports a young earth are actually atheists......

I doubt it. I assume you mean personally, but do you imagine all those Christians are going to Ham's parks for laughs or are they all atheists? There are obviously quite a few YEC still around and of course there are also the Gallup Polls that prove you wrong on this but, maybe that is just another one of those things you conveniently explain through God's magical powers.
 
What? A whole 'nother thread of Dick being a dick?

I don't have to read it to conclude that he is assigning everyone literal Biblical beliefs, ignoring all comments to the contrary of that, and dishonestly presenting straw men?


Has it stopped stinging?

No, I am basically trying to figure out how Christians decide to ignore facts and invoke magic. It seems to be based on the image the Christian wants to promote like your claim to accept evolution was, or to whoever the Christian is talking.
 
You would be wrong little man. Fact is you are too ignorant to hold an intellectual discussion with. Insignificant. As you can see people with intellect are trying to have somewhat of a discussion. You are not included in that group. Run along now.

lol

Cunt, I challenged you to take a stand on the OP and you ran away.

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Has it stopped stinging?

No, I am basically trying to figure out how Christians decide to ignore facts and invoke magic. It seems to be based on the image the Christian wants to promote like your claim to accept evolution was, or to whoever the Christian is talking.

Has what stopped stinging? Your profound intellectual dishonesty? Your lies, mischaracterizations, and straw men? They never stung, just annoyed.

I looked at the thread title and it said something about Noah's Arc. So I imagine you were thoroughly trounced on that topic as well, and have now taken this discussion in a different direction as well.

Par for the course with you.
 
You would be wrong little man. Fact is you are too ignorant to hold an intellectual discussion with. Insignificant. As you can see people with intellect are trying to have somewhat of a discussion. You are not included in that group. Run along now.

The "no", cunt was your decision to not join the discussion about the OP.

Ark or no Ark, bitch?
 
Has what stopped stinging? Your profound intellectual dishonesty? Your lies, mischaracterizations, and straw men? They never stung, just annoyed.

I looked at the thread title and it said something about Noah's Arc. So I imagine you were thoroughly trounced on that topic as well, and have now taken this discussion in a different direction as well.

Par for the course with you.

No one has offered any proof that humans from 50000 or even 10000 years ago were capable of building large boats. They might have been able to build a nice raft, I am sure they could have carried chickens, goats maybe even a pig or a cow. Elephants and hippopotamuses, absolutely not. I would not say I have been trounced.
 
The "no", cunt was your decision to not join the discussion about the OP.

Ark or no Ark, bitch?

That is the second time little man you have answered the same response. Both with drooling, limp wrists a waving, hissy fits. This is entertaining!
 
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