Tough Guy Trump

Pocahontas said:
I'm sure you admire them deeply. But don't deflect with the Swamp Creatures. They are not practiced by a single Trumptard (person who supported him in the primaries), and you know it well. Look at the character of the Trumptards on this small forum, and tell me there is an ounce of character among them. What's the point of draining the current Swamp if we are just going to refill it with Trumpism, anyway? The current Swamp may actually turn out to be preferable.
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I like to think I am honorable. I've called for E Pluribus Unum and a wait and see for Trump/ But i'm old school -not Alt-Right.
I'm old enough to remember when personal character mattered both by society and politics.

This was back in the day when one avoided "the appearance of impropriety" -long before the Clintonian
"catch me if you can" school of 'ethics' became the norm.

The establishment right led by McCain and Jeb Bush are passe. It just is..they offer nothing.
It's why I never registered as a Republican. I'm not interested in pillow fluffing the plutocrats
I tried to stay in the Democratic party- but DLC types are not wanted anymore.

So now I'll try something else -populism -maybe that is responsive to the working class.
Trump is an asshole but he got the right message.
Maybe the message can get past his personal asshole-ness -maybe not.

There is nothing else out there
 
anatta said:
I like to think I am honorable. I've called for E Pluribus Unum and a wait and see for Trump/ But i'm old school -not Alt-Right.
I'm old enough to remember when personal character mattered both by society and politics.

This was back in the day when one avoided "the appearance of impropriety" -long before the Clintonian
"catch me if you can" school of 'ethics' became the norm.

The establishment right led by McCain and Jeb Bush are passe. It just is..they offer nothing.
It's why I never registered as a Republican. I'm not interested in pillow fluffing the plutocrats
I tried to stay in the Democratic party- but DLC types are not wanted anymore.

So now I'll try something else -populism -maybe that is responsive to the working class.
Trump is an asshole but he got the right message.
Maybe the message can get past his personal asshole-ness -maybe not.

There is nothing else out there
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Keep in mind that the Age of Clinton was made possible when proto-Trumptards jumped on the Perot wagon, handing the election to Bill. Somehow, conservatives weren't able to extort the fools into being Anti-Clinton, the way Trumptards were able to extort conservatives.
 
Pocahontas said:
Keep in mind that the Age of Clinton was made possible when proto-Trumptards jumped on the Perot wagon, handing the election to Bill. Somehow, conservatives weren't able to extort the fools into being Anti-Clinton, the way Trumptards were able to extort conservatives.
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Bill Clinton was a centrist.
The militant left hates him /the establishment Republicans tried to impeach him
That makes him despised by the extremists-establishments partisans. He must have done something right! :)
 
anatta said:
Bill Clinton was a centrist.
The militant left hates him /the establishment Republicans tried to impeach him
That makes him despised by the extremists-establishments partisans. He must have done something right! :)
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Please, you know the Clintons better than that. If the roles were reversed, Hillary would have been a centrist in 1992, and Bill a leftist in 2016.

Since I am generous, here is a pro-Trump article that you will like more than the NR one I just posted (although, there are plenty of pro-Trump writers on NR, such as Victor Davis Hanson).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...polls-muslim-ban-immigration-column/97920456/
 
Pocahontas said:
Please, you know the Clintons better than that. If the roles were reversed, Hillary would have been a centrist in 1992, and Bill a leftist in 2016.

Since I am generous, here is a pro-Trump article that you will like more than the NR one I just posted (although, there are plenty of pro-Trump writers on NR, such as Victor Davis Hanson).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...polls-muslim-ban-immigration-column/97920456/
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Bill Clinton at one time was a decent person, So was Hillary -i backed her in 2008,
somewhere on the way to 2016 avarice and and imperious character took over her.
Maybe it's because she so wanted the brass ring,and became obsessed -like a an attachment behavior in Buddhism
 
Queen Snowflake said:
Russia launches a missile, patrols our Eastern coast and buzzes our ships and Trump is silent.

Remember what Trump said he would do if he were disrespected?

Where is tough guy, now?
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Please just STFU; you leftist morons didn't give a shit when Obama ran from Iraq leaving the nation to the ISIS extremists, then doubling down with his moronic JV comment.

You leftist morons didn't give a shit when ObamaTard drew that red line in the sands of Syria, only to back down and run away with his tail between his legs leaving an opening for Russian interventionism.

You leftist morons didn't give a shit when Obama leaned across the table to Medvedev assuring him that after the election he could bend over to Russian hegemony.

You leftist morons didn't give a shit when Benghazi blew up, four Americans were killed due to Obama's ineptitude and failed foreign policy even when it was brought to light their claims of a spontaneous protest were proven to be outright lies.

You whiney sociopathic lying leftist hypocrites really need to just STFU and realize what fucking losers you are and comprehend that until you get your collective heads out of your assholes, you will continue getting slapped down for being morons.

My image of the Liberal left these days:

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Jarod said:
Looks like they think he is weak and are testing him... same with North Korea.
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Yet, when Obama was in charge, they had no doubt about his weakness and laughed at his inept and failed foreign policies.

Watching liberal hypocrites suddenly become concerned about Russia and missile tests is the most laughable stupidity one can imagine.
 
blackascoal said:
He's the high school dropout award-winning Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Clinton Files .. a meaningless collection of ignorant bullshit that nobody paid any attention to.

He proves time and time again that he's not an independent, and he doesn't have the intelligence to come up with anything politically informative by himself.

He's an ass-licker of the highest order.

That's how he missed it.
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blackascoal said:
:rofl2: So says the dropout ass-licker who sees nothing wrong with his WWE celebrity president.

NO stupid motherfucker I have no interest in a shit-stain dishwasher like you telling me anything about Libya or anything else.

You ate my droppings, not the other way around. I've never needed you for a goddamn thing.
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anatta said:
Bill Clinton at one time was a decent person, So was Hillary -i backed her in 2008,
somewhere on the way to 2016 avarice and and imperious character took over her.
Maybe it's because she so wanted the brass ring,and became obsessed -like a an attachment behavior in Buddhism
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You supported Crooked Hillary in 2008?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


:shamecube:
 
Pocahontas said:
You supported Crooked Hillary in 2008?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
:shamecube:
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"fool me once.." didn't fool me twice! :)

-actually this was before Obama,and before the Progressives so radicalized- the party centrists were stillvalued.
In other words before the Shrill Left was infected by the PC crowd to become not much more then noise..

Did you support McCain? That cube is for you..
 
blackascoal said:
He's the high school dropout award-winning Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Clinton Files .. a meaningless collection of ignorant bullshit that nobody paid any attention to.

He proves time and time again that he's not an independent, and he doesn't have the intelligence to come up with anything politically informative by himself.

He's an ass-licker of the highest order.

That's how he missed it.
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This

Post of the year award
 
TTQ64 said:
It has everything to do with race.

You think the Black man was incapable of everything while you praise the incompetent racist white man in office now.
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Yup such an overt racist POS yet so intellectually dishonest that he denies it.

Literally the lowest form of life possible.
 
anatta said:
"fool me once.." didn't fool me twice! :)

-actually this was before Obama,and before the Progressives so radicalized- the party centrists were stillvalued.
In other words before the Shrill Left was infected by the PC crowd to become not much more then noise..

Did you support McCain? That cube is for you..
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You know what cocksucker?

McCain would be a good president compared with Trump.

You must be under 100 IQ
 
Rune said:
ThisPost of the year award
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Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.
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You should see these internal State Department reports that are produced in the State Department that go out to the Congress. They’re just full of stupid, stupid facts,” an American intermediary specifically dispatched by the Joint Chiefs of Staff told the Gadhafi regime in July 2011, saying the State Department was controlling what intelligence would be reported to U.S. officials.
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Mrs. Clinton ultimately persuaded President Obama, NATO allies and the United Nations to authorize military intervention.

Seif Gadhafi, told American officials in the secret conversations that he was worried Mrs. Clinton was using false pretenses to justify unseating his father
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“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report,” Gadhafi said in a May 2011 phone call to Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, an Ohio Democrat serving at the time
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Gadhafi also warned that many of the U.S.-supported armed rebels were “not freedom fighters” but rather jihadists whom he described as “gangsters and terrorists.
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“We ask the American government send a fact-finding mission to Libya. I want you to see everything with your own eyes.”
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the Pentagon’s senior uniformed leadership and a congressman from Mrs. Clinton’s own party conveyed sentiments to the Libyan regime that undercut or conflicted with the secretary of state’s own message at the time.++
it would be highly unusual for the Pentagon to conduct a separate set of diplomatic negotiations, given the way we operated when I was secretary of state,” James A. Baker III,
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Mr. Kucinich, who challenged Mrs. Clinton and Barack Obama for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, acknowledged that he undertook his own conversations with the Gadhafi regime. He said he feared Mrs. Clinton was using emotion to sell a war against Libya that wasn’t warranted,
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there was a distortion of events that were occurring in Libya to justify an intervention which was essentially wrong and illegal.”
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“I have been contacted by an intermediary in Libya who has indicated that President Muammar Gadhafi is willing to negotiate an end to the conflict under conditions which would seem to favor Administration policy,” Mr. Kucinich wrote on Aug. 24.

Neither the White House nor the State Department responded to his letter, he said.
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The State Department also declined to answer questions about separate contacts from the Pentagon and Mr. Kucinich with the Gadhafi regime, but said the goal of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama was regime change in Libya.
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Mrs. Clinton was among the most vocal early proponents of using U.S. military force to unseat Gadhafi. Joining her in making the case were French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican
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Republican, and her successor as secretary of state, John F. Kerry.

Mrs. Clinton’s main argument was that Gadhafi was about to engage in a genocide against civilians in Benghazi, where the rebels held their center of power. But defense intelligence officials could not corroborate those concerns and in fact assessed that Gadhafi was unlikely to risk world outrage by inflicting mass casualties, officials told The Times. As a result, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, strongly opposed Mrs. Clinton’s recommendation to use force.
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Mrs. Clinton, and not Mr. Obama, led the charge to use NATO military force to unseat Gadhafi as Libya’s leader and that she repeatedly dismissed the warnings offered by career military and intelligence officials.
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academic sources told The Times:

Mrs. Clinton was headstrong to enter the Libyan crisis, ignoring the Pentagon’s warnings that no U.S. interests were at stake and regional stability could be threatened.
 
instead of relying on the Defense Department or the intelligence community for analysis, officials told The Times, the White House trusted Mrs. Clinton’s charge

Mrs. Clinton met with Libyan rebel spokesman Mahmoud Jibril in the Paris Westin hotel in mid-March so she could vet the rebel cause to unseat Gadhafi. Forty-five minutes after speaking with Mr. Jibril, Mrs. Clinton was convinced that a military intervention was needed.
 
Rune said:
This

Post of the year award
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He hates Hillary Clinton, blames her for all evil .. still can't get her out of his head. On and on ad nauseam about the intervention in Libya .. Libya, Libya, Libya, and of course, Libya. He doesn't care about the Libyan people, just in it for gotcha' points against Hillary and democrats.

Trump told him he was against the intervention in both Iraq and Libya .. and of course, he lied on both counts.

Not a peep from him on either TRUMP'S lie, nor Trump's support of Hillary Clinton's interventionist plan.

An ass-licking fraud exposed.
 
Mrs.clinton's handiwork: ( not Bernie/not "US policy"/not Trump)

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