Not going to the Supreme Court, Rump gives up

I predict that no matter how the new EO comes out it will be challenged as unconstitutional on the grounds that the legislative intent is to ban muslims. In which case you will have to go to the supreme court anyway.

It's likely to be challenged. I know you, Trump and that fool Miller are deeply offended that anyone would question the President's authority, but that is known to happen in our country. Maybe Russia would be more to your liking.

If he has a legitimate national security interest and provides for due process then I doubt it will make it to the Supreme Court.
 
The first EO did not mention religion.

Why do lefties lie as much as Trump and then whine about his lying?

It does mention religion.


Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.

Do you want to alter your claim? Did you mean that it does not mention a specific religion?
 
It does mention religion.


Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.

Do you want to alter your claim? Did you mean that it does not mention a specific religion?

lol.....mentions it in exactly the opposite way that lying liberals claim it was mentioned?.......you do like looking like an idiot don't you........
 
It's likely to be challenged. I know you, Trump and that fool Miller are deeply offended that anyone would question the President's authority, but that is known to happen in our country. Maybe Russia would be more to your liking.

If he has a legitimate national security interest and provides for due process then I doubt it will make it to the Supreme Court.

it does not matter if he had a legit concern as the intent comes from the statements in the campaign. Even if Iran were to declare death to america it would still not cancel out the fact that it can be challenged by the logic of the 9th.
 
lol.....mentions it in exactly the opposite way that lying liberals claim it was mentioned?.......you do like looking like an idiot don't you........

I have no idea what you are talking about. As usual, yours is a just a vague shitpost.

Yurt did not claim that it "mentions [religion] in exactly the opposite way that lying liberals claim it was mentioned." His claim was, "The first EO did not mention religion."

Yurt made a claim that is clearly wrong. The EO does mention religion. It's an easily verified and undeniable fact. If you want to move the goal posts, again, then ok, but, there is no doubt that it does mention religion and that you are the only one left looking like an idiot.
 
it does not matter if he had a legit concern as the intent comes from the statements in the campaign. Even if Iran were to declare death to america it would still not cancel out the fact that it can be challenged by the logic of the 9th.

In the absence of a legitimate concern the only reasonable basis for a conclusion on his intent are campaign statements and claims made by Giuliani and Trump after the campaign.

The government did not even bother to offer any reason for legitimate concern. They merely argued that the President is not to be challenged. If that's their legal strategy going forward then they are going to lose.
 
I have no idea what you are talking about.

having no ideas is the story of your life.....the issue liberals put forward is that the law discriminates against Muslims, not that the law protects EVERY religion from prosecution based on anti-religion.......your self-installed goal post is whether the letters r,e,l,i,g,i,o,n are found in the text in a recognizable juxtaposition......
 
having no ideas is the story of your life.....the issue liberals put forward is that the law discriminates against Muslims, not that the law protects EVERY religion from prosecution based on anti-religion.......your self-installed goal post is whether the letters r,e,l,i,g,i,o,n are found in the text in a recognizable juxtaposition......

Sorry loser, I did not install the goalposts. Yurt did and then he clearly missed his pat/fg by a wide margin. You don't get to change the terms, loser, but if you want to make a separate and intelligible point then go punch who ever deprived you of an education and left you unable to do so.

BTW, it does not protect every religion from persecution based on anti-religion.

.... provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality.
 
The White House announced today that they will no longer defend the travel ban but will be issuing a new one next week.

They did the math... and did not want the embarrassment of a loss at the Supreme Court.

Some on this very website thought it was an EASY case for Rump.
 
It didn't mention religion by name, the claim Bukkkle made.


You are still fucking that up. It mentioned religion by name, i.e., it used the word religion. You mean that it did not mention a specific religion.

I don't see how that changes anything. The state can't prefer religion over non religion and the exception for persecuted religious minorities does seem to do that.
 
Yep!

Trump acknowledges his original attempt at banning immigration was completely unconstitutional.

Right....that's why he's drafting another one, that will do exactly the same thing as the original....pause all immigration from certain nations that produce ISLAMIC terrorists. The intent of the EO has always been the same.....stop allowing enemies of the state to enter the US through a socialist constructed...open borders immigration policy....its never been about stopping anyone from entering the US through legal immigration.

I especially enjoy watching the president call a press conference with the intent of talking directly to the people who elected him while pointing out to the nation just how dishonest and bigoted the:fu: media is in presenting the news. Hell he even 'predicted' the headlines for the next news cycle for CNN, The president said, "Tomorrows headlines will read, Trump rants and raves..." What was the lead in on CNN's Jack Trapper program, that same evening, not waiting until tomorrow? :good4u:TRUMP UNHINGED.

There is a name for such a practice by the news...its nothing new in US politics, its YELLOW JOURNALISM...the practice of pretending to report the news when in reality the those responsible for reporting the news are making themselves the news. Hell, last night was also special if you don't believe CNN practices yellow journalism. The management at CNN had Anderson (LGBT..Q) interviewing fellow talking head co-host, Fareed Azkaria....crying and whining about the presidents continued attacks.
They were attempting to ask the question, "What do you know and when did you know it..." pretending to be valid journalists resembling the water gate investigation. The first thing the president pointed out was the fact that nothing Fynn did was unconstitutional, illegal or improper...he was doing the job he was appointed and commissioned to do. Immediately...once that was pointed out to the nation....you could see the emotion from the press flatline like a pancake.

Funny as hell...its an ATTACK when the president calls you out for propagating biased and fake news, but its reporting when the media engages in bigotry and fake news.

You have to respect someone that tells it like is....calls them liars to their face and then predicts to the nation what their fake reaction will be. Priceless. ;) He leaves them crying their Constitutional right to lie is being infringed.

Honestly I hope this type of coverage goes on for the next 4 years....while the media fiddles Rome along with everything Obama dictated will go up in flames. The same day...the press was whining and crying....the president signed thousands of lost mining jobs back into production by eliminating Job Killing over
regulations.....placed by the BOH EPA.
 
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Well, I was responding to Bukkkles lie that it did mention religion. Intent would matter little in this case, that goes to ambiguity.
Nope, I mean intent. Trump had stated several times that he would ban Muslims. The court reviewed those statements in making their determination.
 
yes....keep up the good work....


This is your only method of response. That is, you change what the other person said and then argue against your strawman. Sorry, again, but yurt's claim was clearly false. No amount of goalpost shifting is going to change that, loser.


I know football very well. You just keep running reverses (because you think it is cute) and getting stuffed. One of these days your trick play will work, but this is not the day.
 
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