Trump's Team Looks Smarter on Russia

anatta said:
"Blood for Oil" was a stupid LW meme back then,and it's dumb now.
Iraq was neocon madness specifically "spreading democracy in the heart of the mideast"
we never went after Iraqi oil/It was great protest value, but that's it.
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Use your head, annata.

Why did PNAC and the neocons care so much about spreading democracy in the mideast?
 
Sailor said:
You really need to learn something, for christsakes anything, before opening your big trap. Russia is not a communist country. WTF!
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You truly are an idiot if you think Putin has disavowed communism.

Please show us a statement by Putin in which he claims that he is no longer an avowed communist.
 
Nomad said:
You truly are an idiot if you think Putin has disavowed communism.

Please show us a statement by Putin in which he claims that he is no longer an avowed communist.
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I am not the stupid one. You really need to get at a least a basic education and occasionally at least get the fuck out of whatever trailer park you reside in.
 
Nomad said:
Your overly simplistic mischaracterization of Hillary as a war hawk, based solely on her vote to give Bush the authority to use the threat of military force to bring Hussein in line, and her support of a limited bombing campaign in Libya to support the rebels and hopefully head off a planned civilian massacre by Gaddafi, is nothing more than that... an overly simplistic mischaracterization.

There is no way Hillary would've gotten us into a war with Russia or anyone else. You know that as well as I do, but you desperately need something to justify your support of Slump, which really only exists because of your irrational hatred of Clinton to begin with.
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I noticed you completely dodged my de-construction of Tillerson is an Exxon Stooge, and "Iraq was about oil"
Why is that? Because you can't retort to my superior knowledge of and ability to analyze foreign policy.

Now you're even dodging that Hillary's vote on Iraq wasn't a de facto vote to Authorize Military Use of Force (AUMF)
All I gotta do is (rightly)mention "Hillary is a neocon" and you twist yourself sideways trying to dodge the obvious.

Hillary was the "51% voice" ( perGates) on getting us into bombing Libya.
There was no "planned civilian massacre" in Libya by Qaddafi air force.Qadaffi never shelled any captured territory

It's truly amazing how much you cannot respond to, while being 100% wrong on everything else.
 
Trump?!

"I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to uhm, get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country, and the best interests of his country." U.S. President Bush (the younger) assessing Russia's Vlad Putin in June, 2001

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If Republicans were any good at assessing character, Trump would never have gotten the nomination.

“You claim the mantle of the party of family values, and this is the guy you nominate”. President Obama commenting on the Republican party's nomination of Donald Trump (during headline news of Trump boasting about inappropriate behavior w/ women) FOX / Google 16/10/13
 
Thing1 said:
Use your head, annata.

Why did PNAC and the neocons care so much about spreading democracy in the mideast?
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it was never about oil.
The very definition of a neocon is "spreading democracy at the barrel of a gun".
Rumsfeld looked at
Ssadaam as a bad actor going all the way back to the Iran/Iraq war. Kuwait cemented his views.

Cheney only cared about expanding American democracy as expressed by so called "American exceptionalism"
 
anatta said:
it was never about oil.
The very definition of a neocon is "spreading democracy at the barrel of a gun".
Rumsfeld looked at sadamas a bad actor going all the way back to the Iran/Iraq war.

Cheney only cared about expanding American democracy as expressed by so called "American exceptionalism"
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That's hopelessly naive.

You shouldn't even be discussing this stuff. Again - for decades, we have meddled in the middle east. It's not because we like the cuisine.
 
Sailor said:
You really need to learn something, for christsakes anything, before opening your big trap. Russia is not a communist country. WTF!
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autocratic oligarchy is the best i can come up with. In that sense its similar to the
apparatchicks of Communism -but that's it
 
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