Trump's Team Looks Smarter on Russia

Guille said:
We don't need much to counter China, they're pretty weak.
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China's defense spending to double to $233 billion

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/news/china-military-defense-defence-spending/
China is set to nearly double its military spending this decade as an arms race heats up in Asia.

China's defense spending will balloon to $233 billion in 2020, up from $123 billion in 2010, according to a new report by IHS Jane's.

Military spending across the Asia-Pacific region has boomed in recent years as regional economies have grown.
Rising tensions around the South China Sea could be a catalyst to splash out more cash.

"A key trend in [Asia-Pacific] is the shift from a traditional focus on territorial defense towards power projection," said Craig Caffrey, a principal analyst at IHS Jane's. "This is new for the region and is likely to increase military-to-military contact between states."

China is already the world's number two spender on defense. But its growth trajectory means that by 2020 it will be spending four times more than the United Kingdom and its budget will top the combined outlays of western European powers.
 
anatta said:
Trump's team is definately smarter then idiots like this...sadly this Whack Job isn't all that far out of the main stream.
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So what's it going to be? US Arrogance and more of the same or a real reset recgonizing Russia as a world power?
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when trump gets impeached will you still lick his ass
 
trump-putin.jpg

People walk past a mural on a restaurant wall depicting U.S. Presidential hopeful Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin greeting each other with a kiss in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius on May 13, 2016.

TIME: Donald Trump’s Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

Trump’s de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs. Trump’s foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. … Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin.

“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”

What’s more, three of Trump’s top advisors all have extensive financial and business ties to Russian financiers, wrote Boot, the former editor of the Op Ed page of the Wall Street Journal and now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

... for all of his denials of Russian ties lately, Trump has boasted in the past of his many meetings with Russian oligarchs. During one trip to Moscow, Trump bragged that they all showed up to meet him to discuss projects around the globe. “Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room” just to meet with him, Trump said at the time.

And when Trump built a tower in Panama, his clients were wealthy Russians, the Washington Post reported. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008, according to a trade publication, eTurboNews.

In the 1970s, burglars broke into the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate office complex. President Richard Nixon, a Republican, was forced out of office for the White House cover up of its involvement in the DNC break in.

Now, a generation later, a digital break in to the national headquarters of one of our two major parties by a foreign adversary in order to leak information that benefits the other national party’s presidential candidate seems to be just the normal course of doing business. The Trump era, it is safe to assume, is like nothing we’ve ever seen before.
http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/

Trump says he has ‘nothing to do with Russia.’ The past 30 years show otherwise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b5164beba6b_story.html?utm_term=.e681e6181834
 
anatta said:
Rex Tillerson... the outgoing Exxon Mobil CEO said....

The sanctions... were a flawed approach for three reasons: They hurt U.S. business (Exxon Mobil was one example -- the sanctions scuppered a major project with Rosneft);

Tillerson's knowledge of Russia is that of a businessman who has made billion-dollar deals there....
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So you're really too naive to put those things together and see the obvious.... that this money grubber is mainly interested in what's good for himself and his buddies at Exxon?

Have you already forgotten the consequences of a foreign policy that was fashioned around Dick Cheney's ties to Halliburton?

:palm:

When history repeats itself, thank yourself and the rest of the short memory, naive rubes.
 
trump wants to be impeached


it was the plan


Pense wont fare much better


fuck you republicans who hate democracy
 
Deeply in debt to Russia, Donald Trump may have only run for President to avoid bankruptcy

Since the revelation that the Russians may have hacked the Democratic Party email servers in order to try to sabotage the United States Presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, and his own son’s admission that he’s increasingly in debt to the Russians, it’s raised the question of whether Trump is anything more than a political and financial patsy of Vladimir Putin. It also raises the deeper question of whether Trump, whose debt load has exploded over the past year, may have only run for President in order to prevent his shaky empire from collapsing into bankruptcy.

It’s already been well documented that American banks are no longer willing (source: Wall Street Journal) to loan money to Donald Trump due to his pattern of strategically not paying his bills or repaying his debts when he thinks he can get away with it. And yet he’s managed to nearly double his debt load (source: Bloomberg) over the past year by borrowing a flurry of funds from overseas investors. Why have these foreign bankers been willing to make the risky move of loaning money to Trump if they know there’s a strong chance it won’t be paid back? The short answer is that they have been gambling that they were buying influence over the United States government if Trump became President.

That in turn calls into question why Donald Trump chose this election cycle to finally enter politics, after spending decades threatening to do so. Throughout the general election, he proved consistently unwilling to take the steps needed to broaden his appeal enough to compete for undecided voters, and instead seemed to be merely going through the motions of having snarky fun while remaining in the race until the end. Even though he ended up winning the Electoral College vote (barring a rebellious Electoral vote on December 19th), he ran such a lackadaisical campaign that he lost by nearly three million votes. That’s not a sign of someone who was looking to win. It’s a sign of someone who was just playing the part for other reasons.

Throw in the fact that Donald Trump spent the entire election refusing to release his tax returns to the public even after it caused him endless grief and distrust among voters, and it raises the question of just what he’s hiding. Is he far more in debt than we know? Has he been taking out these loans from foreign investors simply to cover for his existing deep debt so he can avoid yet another bankruptcy? Did he enter the race last year simply because he knew that it would make it easier for him to secure loans from foreigners? What happens if he now takes office, owing money to so many foreign governments and foreign investors?
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion...ning-for-president-to-avoid-bankruptcy/25398/
 
blackascoal said:
trump-putin.jpg

People walk past a mural on a restaurant wall depicting U.S. Presidential hopeful Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin greeting each other with a kiss in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius on May 13, 2016.

TIME: Donald Trump’s Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia

Trump’s de facto campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was a longtime consultant to Viktor Yanukovich, the Russian-backed president of Ukraine who was overthrown in 2014. Manafort also has done multimillion-dollar business deals with Russian oligarchs. Trump’s foreign policy advisor Carter Page has his own business ties to the state-controlled Russian oil giant Gazprom. … Another Trump foreign policy advisor, retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, flew to Moscow last year to attend a gala banquet celebrating Russia Today, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel, and was seated at the head table near Putin.

“The Trump-Russia links beneath the surface are even more extensive,” Max Boot wrote in the Los Angeles Times. “Trump has sought and received funding from Russian investors for his business ventures, especially after most American banks stopped lending to him following his multiple bankruptcies.”

What’s more, three of Trump’s top advisors all have extensive financial and business ties to Russian financiers, wrote Boot, the former editor of the Op Ed page of the Wall Street Journal and now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

... for all of his denials of Russian ties lately, Trump has boasted in the past of his many meetings with Russian oligarchs. During one trip to Moscow, Trump bragged that they all showed up to meet him to discuss projects around the globe. “Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room” just to meet with him, Trump said at the time.

And when Trump built a tower in Panama, his clients were wealthy Russians, the Washington Post reported. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said at a real estate conference in 2008, according to a trade publication, eTurboNews.

In the 1970s, burglars broke into the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate office complex. President Richard Nixon, a Republican, was forced out of office for the White House cover up of its involvement in the DNC break in.

Now, a generation later, a digital break in to the national headquarters of one of our two major parties by a foreign adversary in order to leak information that benefits the other national party’s presidential candidate seems to be just the normal course of doing business. The Trump era, it is safe to assume, is like nothing we’ve ever seen before.
http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
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When all the facts regarding Slump's business ties to Rusdia get assembled together into a nice, neat stack, similar to those nice, neat stacks of blank paper tucked neatly into manila folders that he used as a prop at his recent press conference and would not let anyone look at, the motives for Putin's desire to get him elected could not be more obvious to the point of being utterly, in your face blatant.

And yet, because he mouthed all the right xenophobic, anti-minority rhetoric and pushed all the right bigot buttons so expertly, the low-forehead types who've become known over the years for their 'Murican flag waving phony patriotism, are willing to follow right along behind him and cheer him on as he sells us out to our chief adversary on the world stage, with nary a peep of criticism to be heard out of them.

It it wasn't before, it has now become crystal clear that the supposed "patriotism" of the right was always a mile wide but a mere millimeter deep.
 
blackascoal said:
Deeply in debt to Russia, Donald Trump may have only run for President to avoid bankruptcy

Since the revelation that the Russians may have hacked the Democratic Party email servers in order to try to sabotage the United States Presidential election in favor of Donald Trump, and his own son’s admission that he’s increasingly in debt to the Russians, it’s raised the question of whether Trump is anything more than a political and financial patsy of Vladimir Putin. It also raises the deeper question of whether Trump, whose debt load has exploded over the past year, may have only run for President in order to prevent his shaky empire from collapsing into bankruptcy.

It’s already been well documented that American banks are no longer willing (source: Wall Street Journal) to loan money to Donald Trump due to his pattern of strategically not paying his bills or repaying his debts when he thinks he can get away with it. And yet he’s managed to nearly double his debt load (source: Bloomberg) over the past year by borrowing a flurry of funds from overseas investors. Why have these foreign bankers been willing to make the risky move of loaning money to Trump if they know there’s a strong chance it won’t be paid back? The short answer is that they have been gambling that they were buying influence over the United States government if Trump became President.

That in turn calls into question why Donald Trump chose this election cycle to finally enter politics, after spending decades threatening to do so. Throughout the general election, he proved consistently unwilling to take the steps needed to broaden his appeal enough to compete for undecided voters, and instead seemed to be merely going through the motions of having snarky fun while remaining in the race until the end. Even though he ended up winning the Electoral College vote (barring a rebellious Electoral vote on December 19th), he ran such a lackadaisical campaign that he lost by nearly three million votes. That’s not a sign of someone who was looking to win. It’s a sign of someone who was just playing the part for other reasons.

Throw in the fact that Donald Trump spent the entire election refusing to release his tax returns to the public even after it caused him endless grief and distrust among voters, and it raises the question of just what he’s hiding. Is he far more in debt than we know? Has he been taking out these loans from foreign investors simply to cover for his existing deep debt so he can avoid yet another bankruptcy? Did he enter the race last year simply because he knew that it would make it easier for him to secure loans from foreigners? What happens if he now takes office, owing money to so many foreign governments and foreign investors?
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion...ning-for-president-to-avoid-bankruptcy/25398/
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Dumbest post of the month.
 
Nomad said:
So you're really too naive to put those things together and see the obvious.... that this money grubber is mainly interested in what's good for himself and his buddies at Exxon?

Have you already forgotten the consequences of a foreign policy that was fashioned around Dick Cheney's ties to Halliburton?

:palm:

When history repeats itself, thank yourself and the rest of the short memory, naive rubes.
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He fancies himself as some kind of investigative journalist .. yet can't see the nose on his face.
 
Nomad said:
When all the facts regarding Slump's business ties to Rusdia get assembled together into a nice, neat stack, similar to those nice, neat stacks of blank paper tucked neatly into manila folders that he used as a prop at his recent press conference and would not let anyone look at, the motives for Putin's desire to get him elected could not be more obvious to the point of being utterly, in your face blatant.

And yet, because he mouthed all the right xenophobic, anti-minority rhetoric and pushed all the right bigot buttons so expertly, the low-forehead types who've become known over the years for their 'Murican flag waving phony patriotism, are willing to follow right along behind him and cheer him on as he sells us out to our chief adversary on the world stage, with nary a peep of criticism to be heard out of them.

It it wasn't before, it has now become crystal clear that the supposed "patriotism" of the right was always a mile wide but a mere millimeter deep.
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Well said. :hand:
 
Guille said:
First we need to get this point straight...is Putin a commie or not? Think carefully before you answer this.
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Let me guess.... the rube thinks he's setting someone up for a "gotcha" moment when, after they say "Yes!!! Of course he is!!!!", "Guil-ty" will come back with some bullshit about how Russia is supposedly not a communist country anymore since the fall of the USSR or some such crap.

Let's be clear....

PUTIN IS A COMMIE!!!

SLUMP IS A COMMIE SYMPATHIZER!!!!

PERIOD.
 
Nomad said:
So you're really too naive to put those things together and see the obvious.... that this money grubber is mainly interested in what's good for himself and his buddies at Exxon?

Have you already forgotten the consequences of a foreign policy that was fashioned around Dick Cheney's ties to Halliburton?

:palm:

When history repeats itself, thank yourself and the rest of the short memory, naive rubes.
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"Blood for Oil" was a stupid LW meme back then,and it's dumb now.
Iraq was neocon madness specifically "spreading democracy in the heart of the mideast"
we never went after Iraqi oil/It was great protest value, but that's it.

Exxon does have vast drilling rights in Russia -you are correct on that. Much of it is in the arctic where Putin is drilling now with poorer Russian technology - because of the Obama led sanctions.
What happens if the Arctic gets a blowout because they are prohibited from western technology transfer?
How dumb would that be? About as dumb as "redlines" in Syria.

You guys want to stuff Russia in a box- just like Clinton did with NATO expansionism.
And then you complain when Putin pursue his national interests! Putin ain't playing that game like the Drunken Yeltsin did.

The LMAO part is seeing the Dems align with McCain and Graham -the ULTIMATE NEOCONS -
but then again you Idiots nominated Hillary -a shrill hawk as well.
You guys got no coherent foreign policy except lashing out at Libya and Russia
 
Nomad said:
Let me guess.... the rube thinks he's setting someone up for a "gotcha" moment when, after they say "Yes!!! Of course he is!!!!", "Guil-ty" will come back with some bullshit about how Russia is supposedly not a communist country anymore since the fall of the USSR or some such crap.

Let's be clear....

PUTIN IS A COMMIE!!!

SLUMP IS A COMMIE SYMPATHIZER!!!!

PERIOD.
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So you're saying Putin is a commie?

Yes or no question bitch.
 
Nomad said:
Let me guess.... the rube thinks he's setting someone up for a "gotcha" moment when, after they say "Yes!!! Of course he is!!!!", "Guil-ty" will come back with some bullshit about how Russia is supposedly not a communist country anymore since the fall of the USSR or some such crap.

Let's be clear....

PUTIN IS A COMMIE!!!

SLUMP IS A COMMIE SYMPATHIZER!!!!

PERIOD.
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You really need to learn something, for christsakes anything, before opening your big trap. Russia is not a communist country. WTF!
 
anatta said:
"Blood for Oil" was a stupid LW meme back then,and it's dumb now.
Iraq was neocon madness specifically "spreading democracy in the heart of the mideast"
we never went after Iraqi oil

Exxon does have vast drilling rights in Russia -you are correct on that. Much of it is in the arctic where Putin is drilling now with poorer Russian technology - because of the Obama led sanctions.
Wjhat happens if the Arctic gets a blowout because they are prohibited from western technology transfer?
How dumb would that be?

You guys want to stuff Russia in a box- just like Clinton did with Russian expansionism.
And then you complain when Putin pursue his national interests! Putin ain't playing that game like the Drunken Yelsin did.

The LMAO part is seeing the Dems alighn with McCain and Graham -the ULTIMATE NEOCONS -
but then you Idiots nominated Hillary -a shrill hawk as well.You guys got no coherent foreign policy
except lashing out at Libya and Russia
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Your overly simplistic mischaracterization of Hillary as a war hawk, based solely on her vote to give Bush the authority to use the threat of military force to bring Hussein in line, and her support of a limited bombing campaign in Libya to support the rebels and hopefully head off a planned civilian massacre by Gaddafi, is nothing more than that... an overly simplistic mischaracterization.

There is no way Hillary would've gotten us into a war with Russia or anyone else. You know that as well as I do, but you desperately need something to justify your support of Slump, which really only exists because of your irrational hatred of Clinton to begin with.
 
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