How does being allowed to carry a concealed weapon across State borders

archives said:
make America safer" Currently, it is supposedly a top priority for the new Congress, but I'd love to know how a guy from Louisiana, Alabama, or Texas, which all have high rates of gun violence, makes everyone safer by being allowed to pack his gun in New York, Massachusetts, or Hawaii, which all have low levels of gun violence?

And don't bother to regurgitate all the nonsense regarding the Second Amendment, as we know, no right is absolute, even speech can be regulated, Justice Scalia himself stated in wan't an unlimited right
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The purpose of the Bill of Rights isn't to make America safer. In fact, arguably, the only Amendment ever designed to make America safer was the 21st, although, liberty was certainly a huge issue there.
 
domer76 said:
Worried? Naw.

God given? Really? Where did your god grant you the right to carry your pissant popgun? Did your god grant that right before or after the invention of the gun? If your god is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, why would you even need your popgun?

Carry on, Barney Fife. One bullet at a time!
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Declaration of Independence says our rights come from God.
 
sear said:
While you girls sort it out:
if you don't mind my addressing an issue related to the posted topic:

There has been some move afoot for inter-State CCP reciprocity. How much involvement the NRA has on that, I don't know.

The idea being a citizen from Massachusetts w/ CCP could while carrying concealed, cross into New York State legally, and vice versa.

Whether this should be handled among the States, or whether a federal law should open the floodgates nationwide, I don't know.

What do you think?
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I don't mind the states working that out among themselves. I am a states rights sort of fellow so I don't like 'one size fits all' laws coming from politicians in DC. While I am for checking the constitutionality of states' laws via the courts, I recognize there is a difference in views among the states. I travel quite a bit and when I do I don't mind making myself aware of the laws each particular state. I view it as my responsibility.
 
Threedee said:
Declaration of Independence says our rights come from God.
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Big fucking deal. While the Declaration is a lovely document, it's not law. The Constitution makes no mention of a creator.

BTW, the Declaration also says all men are created equal. That was a lie while the ink was still wet.

Keep flailing.
 
domer76 said:
Big fucking deal. While the Declaration is a lovely document, it's not law. The Constitution makes no mention of a creator.

BTW, the Declaration also says all men are created equal. That was a lie while the ink was still wet.

Keep flailing.
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Did I say it was law? The basis of this country is that our rights come from God, per the Declaration. If you don't like that, then there are countries out there whose basis are atheistic, such as the dwindling number of Marxist countries.
 
Threedee said:
Did I say it was law? The basis of this country is that our rights come from God, per the Declaration. If you don't like that, then there are countries out there whose basis are atheistic, such as the dwindling number of Marxist countries.
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Funny how the lefties want to push the Declaration when they are spouting off about the "general welfare" to justify every bit of welfare spending.
 
"The basis of this country is that our rights come from God, per the Declaration." T #154

Though historic accounts may appear to waffle somewhat on it, I don't think of Jefferson as a religious man.
Atheist may be too strong. Let's call T.J. a skeptical agnostic.

"In the fevered state of our country, no good can ever result from any attempt to set one of these fiery zealots to rights, either in fact or principle. They are determined as to the facts they will believe, and the opinions on which they will act. Get by them, therefore, as you would by an angry bull; it is not for a man of sense to dispute the road with such an animal."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 24 Nov. 1808, to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 10 Aug. 1787

T.J. used the word "Creator", which does not necessarily invoke the supernatural; even if it appeases those that did.
 
sear said:
"The basis of this country is that our rights come from God, per the Declaration." T #154

Though historic accounts may appear to waffle somewhat on it, I don't think of Jefferson as a religious man.
Atheist may be too strong. Let's call T.J. a skeptical agnostic.

"In the fevered state of our country, no good can ever result from any attempt to set one of these fiery zealots to rights, either in fact or principle. They are determined as to the facts they will believe, and the opinions on which they will act. Get by them, therefore, as you would by an angry bull; it is not for a man of sense to dispute the road with such an animal."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 24 Nov. 1808, to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph

"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 10 Aug. 1787

T.J. used the word "Creator", which does not necessarily invoke the supernatural; even if it appeases those that did.
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It was the style of the Enlightenment. Even men like Jefferson supposed that it was reasonable and logical.
 
"In the fevered state of our country, no good can ever result from any attempt to set one of these fiery zealots to rights, either in fact or principle. They are determined as to the facts they will believe, and the opinions on which they will act. Get by them, therefore, as you would by an angry bull; it is not for a man of sense to dispute the road with such an animal."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 24 Nov. 1808, to his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph
 
All this crazy bullshit is meant to make the mugs believe they are 'free' if they can murder one another's children and so on, while the rich take over entirely and reduce them to starving slavery. Heil Trump, and Death to Intelligence!
 
Taffy said:
All this crazy bullshit is meant to make the mugs believe they are 'free' if they can murder one another's children and so on, while the rich take over entirely and reduce them to starving slavery. Heil Trump, and Death to Intelligence!
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Yes, I know you fuckwad Marxists hate it when someone other than the government commits the murders. Heil Stalin, and Death to Liberty!
 
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