Outside of the fact that it is a tragedy, don"t see why the media

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How will liability insurance stop mass shootings?
Stupid comment is stupid.
Everything else you said already exists.

Why aren't you concerned with mental illness?
Every single shooter is mentally ill.

We register guns in the US? Since when?

Talk about stupid, did you think there was some immediate remedy to end mass shootings? Limiting gun ownership to legitimate owners by taking administrative steps is only one solution, and a solution a whole lot better than your solution of giving everyone a gun

Mental illness is just the NRA"s "defense," you going mentally test everyone who obtains a gun? That would work will at gun sales in Soith Carolina

 

[Rune]

Probably the exact way today's shooter saw it, and most likely the majority of all shooters see it when they initally obtained their first gun, and that's the strangest interpretation I ever heard of the Second Amendment

By the way, not to bust your bubble, no right is absolute

The right....shall not be infringed.
Sounds pretty absolute if one comprehends English.

 

[Rune]

that's way convoluted. I can't kill you- by me using drugs
But if you want to actually get serious here -legalize it all and then the cartels go away too.

Most addicts can find functional levels of work -it actually called functional addiction

http://alcoholrehab.com/drug-addiction/recognize-a-functioning-addict/
Functioning Addict Defined

A functioning addict can be defined as someone who is able to hide the excesses of their alcohol or drug use. An example of this would be the functioning alcoholic who may have a good job, a secure home life, and be respected in the community despite drinking an excessive amount of alcohol most day. To an outsider this individual will be functioning at a high level, but this may be hiding the reality that internally their life is falling apart. This is because addiction always involves a downward spiral even if this decline is well hidden. The functioning addict is sometimes able to maintain their balancing act for many years but eventually things will fall apart – this often happens in dramatic and tragic ways.

No, not most.
Some at best and as addiction is a progressive illness that becomes harder to maintain with time.
By the way you may be functioning but you are miles below your potential.

Stop projectingy your situation on every addict everywhere, it is untrue.

 

[Ralph]

Probably the exact way today's shooter saw it, and most likely the majority of all shooters see it when they initally obtained their first gun, and that's the strangest interpretation I ever heard of the Second Amendment

By the way, not to bust your bubble, no right is absolute

Now we are a mentalist and can read the mind of criminals. FYI: The criminal killed.....the gun only acted as a tool.

And the strangest interpretation of the 2nd? Really? Not much of a history buff are we sport? That was the exact reason given for the inclusion of the 2nd in the Bill of Rights...by the actual ratifiers of the amendment.

My favorite quote comes from T. Jefferson, "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature they disarm only those who have no inclination to commit crimes. Such laws makes things much worse on the assaulted and better for the assailant. (just as demonstrated time and time again when the assailants attack defenseless people and children because the Government is incapable of defending them as it has made laws making the carrying of arms for self defense a crime.....all the gun attacks over the past decade would have no where near as severe effect if the people being attacked were protected....instead the government has accomplished nothing with its gun laws other than rounding up sheep for the slaughter.)

I stand by my statement. It would take an idiot in today's environment (8 years of allowing terrorists into our very neighborhoods) not to carry a weapon. Clearly the government has failed in its constitutional duty to protect and to serve the people. Self defense is the only option....(left).

 

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The right....shall not be infringed.
Sounds pretty absolute if one comprehends English.

Wrong, even Speech has limitations, no right is absolute

 

[Rune]

We register guns in the US? Since when?

Talk about stupid, did you think there was some immediate remedy to end mass shootings? Limiting gun ownership to legitimate owners by taking administrative steps is only one solution, and a solution a whole lot better than your solution of giving everyone a gun

Mental illness is just the NRA"s "defense," you going mentally test everyone who obtains a gun? That would work will at gun sales in Soith Carolina

Most states require registration with the exception of Montana.
You don't really know much do you?

Did I say there is an immediate end?

You can't limit gun ownership by administrative means idiot. Criminals don't follow laws.

Where have I ever said give guns to everyone? Link up or shut up.

No, mental illness is what causes people to commit mass murder.
Nothing to do with the NRA which I don't support.

You are wrong on all counts.

 

[Rune]

Wrong, even Speech has limitations, no right is absolute

Says the person who doesn't believe the in the Bill of Rights.
Your voice is invalid.

 

[anatta]

No, not most.
Some at best and as addiction is a progressive illness that becomes harder to maintain with time.
By the way you may be functioning but you are miles below your potential.

Stop projectingy your situation on every addict everywhere, it is untrue.

it depends on the individual -some addicts can't get past the "rush" phase, and they prefer heroin to a steady state.
Most addicts that i've talked to mellow over time - they prefer not to go into withdrawals.
IOW's they learn to "maintain".

Of course you are miles below your potential..but it's better then having no coping abilities.

 

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Now we are a mentalist and can read the mind of criminals. FYI: The criminal killed.....the gun only acted as a tool.

And the strangest interpretation of the 2nd? Really? Not much of a history buff are we sport? That was the exact reason given for the inclusion of the 2nd in the Bill of Rights...by the actual ratifiers of the amendment.

My favorite quote comes from T. Jefferson, "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature they disarm only those who have no inclination to commit crimes. Such laws makes things much worse on the assaulted and better for the assailant. (just as demonstrated time and time again when the assailants attack defenseless people and children because the Government is incapable of defending them as it has made laws making the carrying of arms for self defense a crime.....all the gun attacks over the past decade would have no where near as severe effect if the people being attacked were protected....instead the government has accomplished nothing with its gun laws other than rounding up sheep for the slaughter.)

I stand by my statement. It would take an idiot in today's environment (8 years of allowing terrorists into our very neighborhoods) not to carry a weapon. Clearly the government has failed in its constitutional duty to protect and to serve the people. Self defense is the only option....(left).

Wrong, wrong, and wrong

Babe Ruth didn't hit all those home runs withou a bat

No gun owner is a criminal till he uses the gun to shoot another, segregating criminals and law abiding gun owners isn't accurate, most shooters were law abiding till they employed the weapon

cherrypicking something someone said is easy, given time anybody could find a quote to support just about any point of view

No one knows what the Founding Fathers were thinking when the put in the Second Amendment, exact reason Scalia felt he was correct in skipping over the Prefatory Clause, which by the way, he wasn't

And if your argument was valid how come it is referred to as the Wild Wild West when everyone did carry a gun?

Admit it, your just afraid of people different from you who in reality you'll probably never see in your life, Attila ain't knocking on hour door

 

[SmarterthanYou]

is spending so much time on the Florida shooting, mass shootings are as American as apple pie, they happen so often here Americans have become desensitized. All it takes is a guy with grudge, the tools to make it happen are easily available

And the conservative solution is to have more guns and even easier access to more guns, how's that for Orwellian logic

get rid of gun free zones, start making it easier for americans to exercise their rights, and stop demonizing guns and gun possession. you'll see mass shootings go down tremendously

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Funny, how many years ago was that? We don't have a lot of Jim Jones out there, but we do have a lot of mass shooters, and conservatives tell us the way to get rid of them is to put more guns out there and make those guns easier to obtain

the flaw in your idiot thinking is that this position tells us that you think MOST americans, as in 95% or more, are one tick away from snapping and killing people in large numbers. Is THAT your position?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

yep. if i OD - it's not your problem. Guns are everybodys problems

unequivocally false

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Make all drugs legal and rename the DEA. The new name could be Disarm Every Arsehole.

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I thought the English were already disarmed!!

 

[USFREEDOM911]

same with any impairment issue. You don't have to hire them. But many positions aren't going to kill other people.
It's not a good situation,and in all probability their addiction will eventually cause absenteeism , or sloppy work.

But just like the stereotype of the guy who keeps a bottle in his desk drawer - but is functional -the same goes for most addicts.

But if they are LEGAL, then what basis does a company have to violate their rights and not hire them for using something that's LEGAL?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Probably the exact way today's shooter saw it, and most likely the majority of all shooters see it when they initally obtained their first gun, and that's the strangest interpretation I ever heard of the Second Amendment

By the way, not to bust your bubble, no right is absolute

then i'm sure you'll have no problem with the coming GOP regulating the right to an abortion and the right to enter the US to almost nil, since no right is absolute.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Now I know who you look like. A puffy faced Bill Clinton. Perhaps, secretly, he's your idol. Explain all the baggage your boy toy brings to the inauguration. Pussy grabber. Justify it. Com'on spin it. Thief. Stiffing contractors. Explain. Serial Bankruptcy expert. Hey, I'm Donald Trump. I don't pay bills. Fake university. The Art of of being a Con. Now the hacking incident. Going to be an asterisk and one word by your boy toys name forever...*CHEAT.

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[anatta]

But if they are LEGAL, then what basis does a company have to violate their rights and not hire them for using something that's LEGAL?

same reason companies won't knowingly hire an alcoholic

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Wrong, wrong, and wrong

Babe Ruth didn't hit all those home runs withou a bat

No gun owner is a criminal till he uses the gun to shoot another, segregating criminals and law abiding gun owners isn't accurate, most shooters were law abiding till they employed the weapon

cherrypicking something someone said is easy, given time anybody could find a quote to support just about any point of view

No one knows what the Founding Fathers were thinking when the put in the Second Amendment, exact reason Scalia felt he was correct in skipping over the Prefatory Clause, which by the way, he wasn't

And if your argument was valid how come it is referred to as the Wild Wild West when everyone did carry a gun?

Admit it, your just afraid of people different from you who in reality you'll probably never see in your life, Attila ain't knocking on hour door

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[USFREEDOM911]

same reason companies won't knowingly hire an alcoholic

So you support companies violating someone's rights!!

 

[Rune]

it depends on the individual -some addicts can't get past the "rush" phase, and they prefer heroin to a steady state.
Most addicts that i've talked to mellow over time - they prefer not to go into withdrawals.
IOW's they learn to "maintain".

Of course you are miles below your potential..but it's better then having no coping abilities.

Your anecdotes are not facts and conflict with established medicine.
The progressive nature of opioid addiction is not open to debate.