Outside of the fact that it is a tragedy, don"t see why the media

Yaya said:
It was years ago, but that has nothing to do with your comment.

What is your plan to decrease mass shootings?
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Well, if you really want to know, get rid of guns, but I'm realistic enough to know that ain't going happen

So instead, treat guns the same as we do automobiles, you have to a liscense to use one, have to pass a test to get a liscense, the gun has to be registered every couple of years and the owner is required to purchase liability insurance on the gun. No one is taking away guns, just limiting access
 
archives said:
Well, if you really want to know, get rid of guns, but I'm realistic enough to know that ain't going happen

So instead, treat guns the same as we do automobiles, you have to a liscense to use one, have to pass a test to get a liscense, the gun has to be registered every couple of years and the owner is required to purchase liability insurance on the gun. No one is taking away guns, just limiting access
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How would that stop mass murders? We already have background checks, that is more intrusive than getting a license. For CC you do have to have a license.

Don't know about registration, as cars require the same and still cars are frequently used in crimes and can be stolen. Depends on the liability insurance, but perhaps not a bad idea, you should also be aware that many cars drive without no insurance and outdated tags.

Problem is, guns are a right, not a privilege.

You say no one is taking away guns, yet, that is your desire. And I don't believe any of your requirements would really limit access.
 
Yaya said:
How would that stop mass murders? We already have background checks, that is more intrusive than getting a license. For CC you do have to have a license.

Don't know about registration, as cars require the same and still cars are frequently used in crimes and can be stolen. Depends on the liability insurance, but perhaps not a bad idea, you should also be aware that many cars drive without no insurance and outdated tags.

Problem is, guns are a right, not a privilege.

You say no one is taking away guns, yet, that is your desire. And I don't believe any of your requirements would really limit access.
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I'd disagree with the "right" part, but even giving you that, no right is absolute, even speech has limits

Controlling guns doesn't automatically end mass shootings, but creating obstacles to owning a gun in time limits the number of guns out there. The legitimate owner won't have a problem, it's the dimwit intent on hurting others who won't go thru the hoops required

And sure people drive without insurance, people rob banks too, does that mean we should take all the security measures out of the banks.
 
archives said:
is spending so much time on the Florida shooting, mass shootings are as American as apple pie, they happen so often here Americans have become desensitized. All it takes is a guy with grudge, the tools to make it happen are easily available

And the conservative solution is to have more guns and even easier access to more guns, how's that for Orwellian logic
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It would take an idiot not to arm him/herself in today's environment....:) That's exactly the reason the 2nd amendment exists. When the government is in capable or unwilling to protect you...that's leaves only the act of self protection. Everyone should walk around healed.
 
Ralph said:
It would take an idiot not to arm him/herself in today's environment....:) That's exactly the reason the 2nd amendment exists. When the government is in capable or unwilling to protect you...that's leaves only the act of self protection. Everyone should walk around healed.
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Probably the exact way today's shooter saw it, and most likely the majority of all shooters see it when they initally obtained their first gun, and that's the strangest interpretation I ever heard of the Second Amendment

By the way, not to bust your bubble, no right is absolute
 
archives said:
I'd disagree with the "right" part, but even giving you that, no right is absolute, even speech has limits

Controlling guns doesn't automatically end mass shootings, but creating obstacles to owning a gun in time limits the number of guns out there. The legitimate owner won't have a problem, it's the dimwit intent on hurting others who won't go thru the hoops required

And sure people drive without insurance, people rob banks too, does that mean we should take all the security measures out of the banks.
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The Constitution and SCOTUS both say it is a right, you're free to disagree.

There already are limits on guns. For example, you can't just willy nilly shoot things or people up. Guns have more restrictions than speech.

You're right, it won't automatically end it. The legitimate owner already undergoes a waiting period. Not sure why you think one would help, since we already have one.

There are security measures in place.

Personally, I think it is our country's mentality that is most to blame. It is not a democrat or republican blame either. Chicago has some, if not the most, stringent gun laws in the country, how is that working out for Chicago?
 
archives said:
is spending so much time on the Florida shooting, mass shootings are as American as apple pie, they happen so often here Americans have become desensitized. All it takes is a guy with grudge, the tools to make it happen are easily available

And the conservative solution is to have more guns and even easier access to more guns, how's that for Orwellian logic
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you're a dick.
 
archives said:
is spending so much time on the Florida shooting, mass shootings are as American as apple pie, they happen so often here Americans have become desensitized. All it takes is a guy with grudge, the tools to make it happen are easily available

And the conservative solution is to have more guns and even easier access to more guns, how's that for Orwellian logic
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You don't think they should publicize it in order to protect another Mooslim sand monkey terrorist.

Too late! #buildthewall
 
archives said:
Funny, how many years ago was that? We don't have a lot of Jim Jones out there, but we do have a lot of mass shooters, and conservatives tell us the way to get rid of them is to put more guns out there and make those guns easier to obtain
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Is that what they tell you or are those the voices in your head

If guns scare you don't buy one. We aren't forcing you

Bet that guy that was tortured by four negroes in Chicago wishes he had a gun.

Double tap
 
We should just make airports gun free zones. That would have stopped the muslime

Or maybe a muslime free zone?

We need to exterminate muslimes

When you have a cockroach problem you exterminate it and muslimes are cockroaches.
 
Sailor said:
Do you feel the same way about drugs in this country? Drug overdose deaths are more than gun deaths.
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Drugs invariably harm the user most, I advocate that all drugs should be made legal to kill the black market.
midcan5 said:
Face it folks we live in a pretty dumb nation, I know we have great inventions and stuff, but face it the average American thinks thoughts that correspond with dumbness. More guns sure thing. That would help who exactly?

A day in America

"3 adults, 1 child found shot to death inside Alaska hotel room
Police: Man shot dead while trying to stop man from beating woman
3 shot while hanging Christmas lights amid fight with driver
Good Samaritan fatally shot outside Northwest Side Walmart
Accused Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof competent to stand trial"


"The shooter is almost always male. Of the past 129 mass shootings in the United States, all but three have been men. The shooter is socially alienated, and he can’t get laid. Every time you scratch the surface of the latest mass killing, in a movie theatre, a school, the streets of Paris or an abortion clinic, you find the weaponised loser. From Jihadi John of ISIS to Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris at Columbine, these men are invariably stuck in the emotional life of an adolescent. They always struggle with self-esteem – especially regarding women – and sometimes they give up entirely on the possibility of amorous fulfilment. There are different levels of tactical coordination, different ostensible grievances and different access to firearms, but the psyche beneath is invariably the same."

Humiliation and rage: how toxic masculinity fuels mass shootings | Aeon Essays

https://aeon.co/essays/humiliation-and-rage-how-toxic-masculinity-fuels-mass-shootings


"Eric manufactured three more pipe bombs: the Charlie batch. Then he halted production until December. What he needed was guns. And that was becoming a problem.

Eric had been looking into the Brady Bill. Congress had passed the law restricting the purchase of most popular semiautomatic machine guns in 1993. A federal system of instant background checks would soon go into effect. Eric was going to have a hard time getting around that.

"Fuck you Brady!" Eric wrote in his journal. All he wanted was a couple of guns - "and thanks to your fucking bill I will probably not get any!" He wanted them only for personal protection, he joked: "Its not like I'm some psycho who would go on a shooting spree. fuckers."

Eric frequently made his research do double duty for both schoolwork and his master plan. He wrote up a short research assignment on the Brady Bill that week. It was a good idea in theory, he said, aside from the loopholes. The biggest problem was that checks applied only to licensed dealers, not private dealers. So two-thirds of the licensed dealers had just gone private. "The FBI just shot themselves in the foot," he concluded."

Eric was rational about his firepower. "As of this date I have enough explosives to kill about 100 people," he wrote. With axes, bayonets, and assorted blades, he could maybe take out ten more. That was as far as hand to-hand combat would get him. A hundred and ten people. "that just isn't enough!"

"Guns!" the entry concluded. "I need guns! Give me some fucking firearms! " p.280 'Columbine' by Dave Cullen [bold added]
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Yaya said:
How would that stop mass murders? We already have background checks, that is more intrusive than getting a license. For CC you do have to have a license.

Don't know about registration, as cars require the same and still cars are frequently used in crimes and can be stolen. Depends on the liability insurance, but perhaps not a bad idea, you should also be aware that many cars drive without no insurance and outdated tags.

Problem is, guns are a right, not a privilege.

You say no one is taking away guns, yet, that is your desire. And I don't believe any of your requirements would really limit access.
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Lock up anybody found with illegal firearms. Refuse guns to anybody with a history of mental problems and increase the legal age to 25.

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