The Nation Is Divided Into Two Camps: Trump and Anti-Trump

Milagro said:
They would have stopped the destruction of Tripoli Airport, the blockading of ports, commandeering and thrashing of government buildings and vital infrastructure. I mean holy fuck, look what happened in the aftermath of the Iraq War ffs. The militias could also have been invited to be trained and become part of a National Army. None of this was done, yet you dismiss it out of hand.
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but there was no base security for them to operate from.
There isn't any National Army to this day, unless you mean General Hiftars?
The Libyan National Army is loyal to the internationally recognized government in Tobruk (HORepresentatives).
It fights against Libya Dawn, the Shura Council of Benghazi and ISIS in Libya.
It's based in the east -not Tripoli as you mention.

Look who liberated Sirte -it was the Misrata Brigades operating under auspice of the GNA ( Tripoli unity gov't).
The GNA in Tripoli is a paper tiger.

what I'm saying is there wasn't any basic security ( and UN Peacekeepers are not deployed to provide security -they are deployed to stop warring factions)
I get your point.
My point is with roving militias -not just the separate armies -UN security itself would be too compromised to act as force separators.
 
Thing1 said:
Enough of your one-sided BS.

The right now controls EVERYTHING.

Will you hold them accountable?
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One sided? You really are a dope. I just said today that Obama was not the end of the world as righties said. I then gave him props. And I always do. I am not blind to partisanship like you.

The right does not control everything, that is dumb, even for you.
 
cawacko said:
BAC, how was Hillary what the white working class needed?
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What the American working class needed is what every working class needs - the end of this squalid system and its replacement by socialism. Unfortunately, they have been so deeply brainwashed for so very long that they don't know their arse from their elbow, so that the dimmer ones voted for an incompetent, spoilt, thieving shit like Trump, on the grounds they couldn't be worse off. Wait and see, you poor buggers!
 
iolo said:
What the American working class needed is what every working class needs - the end of this squalid system and its replacement by socialism. Unfortunately, they have been so deeply brainwashed for so very long that they don't know their arse from their elbow, so that the dimmer ones voted for an incompetent, spoilt, thieving shit like Trump, on the grounds they couldn't be worse off. Wait and see, you poor buggers!
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Iolo, what kind of socialism do you have in Wales for the working class? Blwyddyn Newydd Dda
 
iolo said:
What the American working class needed is what every working class needs - the end of this squalid system and its replacement by socialism. Unfortunately, they have been so deeply brainwashed for so very long that they don't know their arse from their elbow, so that the dimmer ones voted for an incompetent, spoilt, thieving shit like Trump, on the grounds they couldn't be worse off. Wait and see, you poor buggers!
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Yeah-yeah, we know Karl.
Power to the people and all that.

:palm:
 
Bigdog said:
KKK 'whites only' socialism
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I don't see Sailor's posts except in quotation - in this case by some Big Tit with no brain, but the answer is: None whatever, but the working class has managed to modify capitalism in ways the tories are desperate to destroy, especially the NHS. We still retain reasonably free education too, even to university level.
 
cawacko said:
BAC, how was Hillary what the white working class needed?
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Stability, sanity, and an opportunity to engage the nation is real discussions of how we go forward as a people in confronting the real issues of unemployment and healthcare.

Healthcare is as much an issue for the WWC as it is for just about everybody else. Start from the truth that much of the WWC vote against their own best interests.

The challenge is, how do the rest of us deal with the tribalism .. which fuels their inability to understand the requirement of diversity.

They will not hear the truth from Trump who used that tribalism to win the WH. He will tell them that their problems are somebody else's fault, not theirs. Thus, they will avoid the necessary introspective that they all should be engaging in.

But here's the good news. Trump won. The introspective they run from will be staring them in the face everyday. No doubt that introspective already has a boot up the asses of those with brains. "What the fuck have I done."

Pardon my generalization, but most white Americans don't like to be told anything. Sure, they readily jump to tell everybody else what's wrong with them .. but they never take that slow walk past the mirror. Looking for fault out the window when they should be looking in the mirror.

Trump's election, how we was elected and with 3 million more votes going to Clinton, and the fact that he controls all levers of the government .. was a gift from God my brother. There is no one left to blame for the ills of the WWC. Not Obama, not Clinton, not the democrats, not black people, not immigrants, not anyone else but themselves. Trump is a glaring example of the idiocy of the so-called WWC .. and until they see themselves as 'the working class' without the vanilla flavoring .. truth is they don't deserve a better society.
 
iolo said:
I don't see Sailor's posts except in quotation - in this case by some Big Tit with no brain, but the answer is: None whatever, but the working class has managed to modify capitalism in ways the tories are desperate to destroy, especially the NHS. We still retain reasonably free education too, even to university level.
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Very well said.

Unfettered capitalism only benefits the Robber Barons.
 
blackascoal said:
Stability, sanity, and an opportunity to engage the nation is real discussions of how we go forward as a people in confronting the real issues of unemployment and healthcare.

Healthcare is as much an issue for the WWC as it is for just about everybody else. Start from the truth that much of the WWC vote against their own best interests.

The challenge is, how do the rest of us deal with the tribalism .. which fuels their inability to understand the requirement of diversity.

They will not hear the truth from Trump who used that tribalism to win the WH. He will tell them that their problems are somebody else's fault, not theirs. Thus, they will avoid the necessary introspective that they all should be engaging in.

But here's the good news. Trump won. The introspective they run from will be staring them in the face everyday. No doubt that introspective already has a boot up the asses of those with brains. "What the fuck have I done."

Pardon my generalization, but most white Americans don't like to be told anything. Sure, they readily jump to tell everybody else what's wrong with them .. but they never take that slow walk past the mirror. Looking for fault out the window when they should be looking in the mirror.

Trump's election, how we was elected and with 3 million more votes going to Clinton, and the fact that he controls all levers of the government .. was a gift from God my brother. There is no one left to blame for the ills of the WWC. Not Obama, not Clinton, not the democrats, not black people, not immigrants, not anyone else but themselves. Trump is a glaring example of the idiocy of the so-called WWC .. and until they see themselves as 'the working class' without the vanilla flavoring .. truth is they don't deserve a better society.
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And when your desire and attempts at division fail, you'll just find something else to whine about; because you're just another unhappy race baiter.

More's the pity.

:palm:
 
iolo said:
What the American working class needed is what every working class needs - the end of this squalid system and its replacement by socialism. Unfortunately, they have been so deeply brainwashed for so very long that they don't know their arse from their elbow, so that the dimmer ones voted for an incompetent, spoilt, thieving shit like Trump, on the grounds they couldn't be worse off. Wait and see, you poor buggers!
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Socialism has never worked.

Maybe you have some sorta reason you wanna be in a country like Venezuela, so please move there, (lots of pig shit for you to eat).
 
captitalism must be properly fettered or it turns into fascism in no time.


libertarians actaully want fascism


they just are sooooo stupid they don't understand that is the only thing their ideas will produce
 
evince said:
captitalism must be properly fettered or it turns into fascism in no time.


libertarians actaully want fascism


they just are sooooo stupid they don't understand that is the only thing their ideas will produce
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Detroit and all the illegal voters in California.
 
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