Trump sides with Putin over the CIA.

tsuke said:
did the CIA say anything yet? As far as I can tell they have been commanded to by the committee with oversight on them but they have refused.
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"Incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus suggested Sunday that President-elect Donald Trump will accept that Russia is behind the hacking of Democrats' email accounts during the 2016 White House election if the leaders of the U.S. intelligence community draft a report with that consensus agreement.

“I think he would accept the conclusion if they would get together, put out a report and show the American people they are on the same page,” Priebus said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Priebus suggested that the Trump team accepts CIA Director John Brennan’s statement that Russia was involved. However, he remains wary about news media reports that FBI Director James Comey agrees."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...king-if-cia-fbi-release-consensus-report.html
 
evince said:
breaching peoples security is illegal you fucking traitor
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Speaking of fucking traitors, even as we speak the intelligence community is investigating whether multiple foreign countries hacked into Hillary's not so secret private server. No doubt that clumsy oaf was sending out live briefings to the whole world. Would you cast a vote for someone so inept?

Many did, just not enough.
 
Thing1 said:
Are they wrong in this case, apologist?
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Mott the Hoople said:
Straw man argument. Obama never said they weren't though both Romney and Obama would have been wrong. China is. Russia is #2. Obamas criticism of Romney was that Cold War strategies would not be effective today. Not that Russia was not a grave military threat.

So you can put that canard away.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked ILA. Would you oppose President Trump retaliating against Russia for attempting to interfere with our elections?
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I'll ask you if you are prepared to start a new war based on potentially dodgy intelligence. Seem to recall that didn't work out too well in Iraq.

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Mott the Hoople said:
No he's wrong. China is. Romney did advocate Cold War strategies. Isolating Russia from world events is provocative and dangerous and would probably backfire and create an environment of suspicion and mistrust that could lead to another suicidal nuclear arms race. Something no one wants. So your simply wrong there or I should say Romney was.

All of which is irrelevant as no one is asking for a return to Cold War era policy with its escalating nuclear arms race. Greatest thing Reagan did was kill the Cold War environment by tearing down walls.

What reasonable Americans are asking is what is going to be done about this specific threat?
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agree with most of this, but the cold war is/was much more then escalating nukes.
Russia has already upgraded it's conventional weapons, and we just put a bunch of money manpower into eastern Europe. enough already.

Obama announced the allocation of 3.4 billion dollars to support NATO allies due to Russia’s aggression in Eastern Europe
http://en.reporter-ua.ru/obama-anno...-to-russias-aggression-in-eastern-europe.html
U.S. President Barack Obama has officially announced the allocation of 3.4 billion dollars to support allies in the Organization North Atlantic Treaty (NATO) due to the Russian aggression in Eastern Europe.

the United States has increased its military presence in Europe; held additional bilateral and multilateral military exercises; improved the military infrastructure of U.S. forces and allies; have placed more U.S. equipment in Europe intensified efforts to strengthen military capabilities and interoperability of allies and partners. ...

Administration has announced a fourfold increase in the funding of the European initiative identity defense support for the continent at the 2017 fiscal year,» he said.

In this regard, the American leader said that this initiative provides funding at the level of 3,4 billion dollars, which «should allow the United States to strengthen a stable military situation in Europe and to improve the military’s ability to maintain obligations under article 5

The administration said the additional money would allow the U.S. to beef up its “force presence” in Europe with continuous armored brigade rotations, enable more extensive U.S. participation in training activities with NATO allies and bolster positioning of combat vehicles and supplies in NATO allies Bulgaria, Estonia, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania.
 
On May 4, 2016, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu announced that Russia planned to form 3 new military divisions to counter NATO’s growing military presence in Eastern Europe. These new military divisions will consist of 10,000 troops deployed on Russia’s southern and western frontiers. In addition, Shoygu pledged to improve military training for Russian troops and upgrade Russia’s military hardware production to combat the “NATO threat.”

Moscow’s military buildup has increased fears of an imminent Crimea-style Russian military intervention in the Baltic States. These concerns are likely misplaced, however. Even though Putin’s military modernization efforts after the 2008 Georgian War laid the groundwork for the 2014 annexation of Crimea, there is evidence that Russia’s latest military buildup is primarily for domestic consumption.....

Putin’s ability to foment pro-government nationalism has been strengthened by increased international recognition of the Russian military’s global power projection capacity. The Russian state media prominently featured US President Barack Obama’s February 2016 description of the Russian military as the “second-most powerful military” in the world.

Obama’s statement contrasted markedly with his 2014 description of Russia as a regional power that invaded Crimea out of weakness. Russian elites have used Obama’s striking change of opinion as proof that Moscow’s military interventions in Ukraine and Syria have boosted Russia’s international status.

To bolster perceptions of Russia as a great power, Putin has made a concerted effort to expand the Russian military’s global reach.
The globalization of Russia’s military capabilities has allowed Moscow to expand its military presence in areas outside its sphere of influence, like Latin America, the Middle East and Southeast Asia.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samuel-ramani/why-putin-is-escalating-r_b_11781280.html
 
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