Liberals don't like fast food?

Yes, Paul Krugman really made this claim in his most recent column. He said white working class like fast food and liberals don't. So are minorities not liberals? Are liberals only rich white people in Krugman's upper west side neighborhood? Wow.
I see...so Krugman points out Trumps cynical betrayal of his working class supporters with his labor secretary appointment and all you get out of it is liberals hate fast food. Nice ;)

Trump may win you over yet.
 
I see...so Krugman points out Trumps cynical betrayal of his working class supporters with his labor secretary appointment and all you get out of it is liberals hate fast food. Nice ;)

Trump may win you over yet.

So minimum wage is the number one issue to working class voters?
 
It is a mistake to treat it as a binary.

It's not that of all foods, they're either healthful, or not.

It's a spectrum.

There are worse foods, like King Mackerel, known to be contaminated with methyl mercury, a neurotoxic heavy metal compound.

Ostensibly toward the opposite end of the spectrum there's "organic kale" (for one of numerous examples) which ironically may be more dangerous than the non-organic kind. Trace amounts of non-organic fertilizer may get on crops, and harm no one. But even a drop of "organic fertilizer" can have e. coli, which is potentially deadly. Paying more for more deadly food would seem to me to be a bad idea. But tree huggers do so none the less.
 
It is a mistake to treat it as a binary.

It's not that of all foods, they're either healthful, or not.

It's a spectrum.

There are worse foods, like King Mackerel, known to be contaminated with methyl mercury, a neurotoxic heavy metal compound.

Ostensibly toward the opposite end of the spectrum there's "organic kale" (for one of numerous examples) which ironically may be more dangerous than the non-organic kind. Trace amounts of non-organic fertilizer may get on crops, and harm no one. But even a drop of "organic fertilizer" can have e. coli, which is potentially deadly. Paying more for more deadly food would seem to me to be a bad idea. But tree huggers do so none the less.

Wow that was the funniest crock of utter bullshit I have ever read.
Try washing your food before you eat it zipperhead.
 
I eat at fast food all the time. There's basically no fast food in Arlington, though, every place has to sell health nut food for $15-$20 a meal. People have more money than sense there.
 
#26
OK
So you're not a scientist. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

BUT !!

Criticizing / dismissing a valid scientific assessment undermines your own credibility, reveals your own ignorance.

The proof that you are wrong is; at some level of precision, no two different foods are PRECISELY equally toxic. It's impossible.
 
So minimum wage is the number one issue to working class voters?
Yea....right....nice deflection. His secretary appointment isn't opposed to just raising the minimum wage. He's opposed to raising wages across the board, period. Would you like some fries with that sir?
 
#26
OK
So you're not a scientist. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

BUT !!

Criticizing / dismissing a valid scientific assessment undermines your own credibility, reveals your own ignorance.

The proof that you are wrong is; at some level of precision, no two different foods are PRECISELY equally toxic. It's impossible.

I may or may not be a scientist but I can tell you that fecal collifo
rm on grocery store shelf food is NOT from organic fertilizer.
Manure must be composted or the nitrogen will burn the crops rather than fertilize them.
If there is e-coli on your food it is from someone tsking a dump in the fields.

FYI, next time you inpungn someone's credibility you might want to verify first.
 
"I may or may not be a scientist but" R #33
I doubt you are. But if you are, you're not a very good one.
"I can tell you that fecal colliform on grocery store shelf food is NOT from organic fertilizer."
"Organic chemistry" simply means Carbon based. Additional definitions vary widely *.
In addition, the FDA has its own somewhat eclectic definitions some of which may be likely to be misinterpreted by consumers.

You are 100% correct that inadequate labor sanitation CAN be a source of food-borne contaminants.
I did a hasty Internet search, and got numerous hits.
How Do Pathogens Get Into Produce? | Food Safety News

www.foodsafetynews.com/2013/01/how-do-pathogens-get-into-produce/

Jan 23, 2013 ... It was the 2006 baby spinach E. coli outbreak that led to a research ... Referring to the 2006 E. coli outbreak linked to baby spinach contaminated with E. coli .... As an example, the anhydrous ammonia fertilizer applied by ...
E. coli - The Organic Center

organic-center.org/reportfiles/EColiFAQReport.pdf

Use of fertilizers that might contain E. coli. ... make its way to food, other ways people are exposed, .... reducing the frequency of E. coli O157 contamination.
Does Organic Food Have Higher Levels of Fecal Contamination ...

www.organicconsumers.org/old_articles/organic/fecal-contamination.php

In addition, the study found the food-borne disease pathogen salmonella only ... manure for fertilizer, the chances that you are going to get fecal bacteria on the ...
PREVENTING E. coli in FOOD - Food and Agriculture Organization ...

www.fao.org/fileadmin/user_upload/fcc/news/1_FAO_Preventing-E.Coli-inFood_FCC_2011.06.23.pdf

Jun 20, 2011 ... foods and water, as well as cross-contamination, or by direct human contact ... E. coli (0157:H7) contamination pathway via the interacting animal, .... These could include reducing the overuse of nitrogenous fertilizer, applying.
Generic Escherichia coli Contamination of Spinach at the Preharvest ...

aem.asm.org/content/79/14/4347.full

The presence of E. coli in foods indicates fecal contamination and possibly ... The use of animal waste as fertilizer increased the risk of E. coli contamination of ...
Food Processing - E.coli

www.noao.edu/safety/itt_hartford_ri...cessing_controlling_e._coli_contamination.pdf

Food Processing: Understanding and Controlling E. Coli Contamination .... Fertilizer which contains the E. coli bacteria comes in direct contact with the fruits or.
E. Coli - KidsHealth

m.kidshealth.org/en/kids/ecoli.html?WT.ac=

E. coli is a common type of bacteria that can get into food, like beef and ... used for fertilizer (a common practice to help crops grow) or if water contaminated with ...
Don't worry, it's organic | Feature | Chemistry World

www.chemistryworld.com/feature/dont-worry-its-organic/1012635.article

Several years ago, critics suggested that organic produce was more likely to be contaminated with bacteria that can cause food-poisoning and worse.
What Europeans should have read about pathogenic E. coli in 2007 ...

www.biofortified.org/2011/05/what-e...-helped-avoid-the-current-food-safety-crisis/

May 31, 2011 ... Ageing of animal wastes before their application as fertilizer was used .... While most human cases of E. coli O157 related food poisoning have ...
Study yields mixed findings about microbes on organic produce ...

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective...mixed-findings-about-microbes-organic-produce

The study was published this month in the Journal of Food Protection. ... All of the organic farmers reported using manure as their main fertilizer, and four of ... Ordinary E coli was found in 9.7% of organic produce samples, versus 1.6% of the ... one sample with E coli contamination, versus only 12% of certified organic farms.
There are other possibilities.
Birds can void while in flight. And birds are not unknown in airspace above food crop fields.
In addition, both predator and prey may also invade such spaces. And they seldom carry a roll of toilet paper with them.

The point is, the article I referenced in that comment was from a respected source that simply mentioned the irony that while special classes of food touted as "all natural" for example may cost more; but might be perceived by consumers to be more healthful,
when the reality is; it is ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE the opposite.
"Manure must be composted or the nitrogen will burn the crops rather than fertilize them."
You're welcome to post the U.S. federal regulation which dictates that. I thought it was the farmer's discretion.
"If there is e-coli on your food it is from someone tsking a dump in the fields."
Probably so, in many cases. Until you can PROVE it's so in 100% of all cases, I'll continue to consider the article's point as plausible.
"FYI, next time you inpungn someone's credibility you might want to verify first."
Ah.
You mean as I did in these cases?
Yes. You are right. That's why I continue to do so. But thanks for stating the obvious & unnecessary none the less.
* organic (ôr-gàn´îk) adjective
Abbr. org.
Using or produced with fertilizers of animal or vegetable matter, using no synthetic fertilizers or pesticides: organic gardening; organic vegetables. b. Free from chemical injections or additives, such as antibiotics or hormones: organic chicken. c. Simple, healthful, and close to nature: an organic lifestyle.

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.
 
And what on earth has eating chemical muck got to do with politics? Poor people have to eat it because, as in most matters, their masters give them no choice, and the educated tend to know a bit more about what they are doing to themselves when they put profiteers' poison in their guts, whatever their politics. As far as I know, anyone here who has any choice prefers decent food to muck, except when drunk, but then, here, we are not so intellectually oppressed that we have to be conservatives or liberals.
 
And what on earth has eating chemical muck got to do with politics? Poor people have to eat it because, as in most matters, their masters give them no choice, and the educated tend to know a bit more about what they are doing to themselves when they put profiteers' poison in their guts, whatever their politics. As far as I know, anyone here who has any choice prefers decent food to muck, except when drunk, but then, here, we are not so intellectually oppressed that we have to be conservatives or liberals.

They don't *have* to eat it, they eat it because they like it.

In the USA poor people don't pay for their food and have all kinds of options. They go for the comfort foods usually.
 
#36

Charlton Fredricks PhD said of food containing chemical preservatives; if bacteria are smart enough not to eat it, you should be too.

It's a ~70 mile round trip for me to go grocery shopping.
So for economy and environmental impact detriment minimization I buy food w/ long storage life.

I also eat venison, and other seasonal foods native to my land.

I wouldn't oversimplify it. Salt (sodium chloride, or potassium chloride) may be "natural", or more natural than disodium inosinate.
But I've been eating all 3 for over 60 years, and I haven't died even once.

Living in the forest as I do is an enormous luxury. Not many can afford to; particularly at the level of luxury that I do (I'm on the grid).

I visit the farmer's markets from time to time, and I buy from local producers, as well as harvesting my own.

Bridging the gaps with long shelf-life food is a price I'm willing to pay for my life in the forest.
 
They don't *have* to eat it, they eat it because they like it.

In the USA poor people don't pay for their food and have all kinds of options. They go for the comfort foods usually.

Nice lie Dorp.
If they are getting free food it is in the form of a credit card which cannot be accepted by stores for premade food.
Shut the fuck up.
 
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