Trump's Muslim ban statement removed from website

I never saw the cite before tonight, so don't what was there or how his plans were worded before....
number 6 seems to say exactly what he's said months ago on tv.....he did say Muslims on TV and he did say other nations at other times
..... the cite now says ALL places don't have adequate vetting...don't know how it was worded before tonight.....
for all practicable purposes, its essentially the same plan....


Prioritize the jobs, wages and security of the American people.

Establish new immigration controls to boost wages and to ensure that open jobs are offered to American workers first.

Protect the economic well-being of the lawful immigrants already living here by curbing uncontrolled foreign worker admissions
Select immigrants based on their likelihood of success in the U.S. and their ability to be financially self-sufficient.
Vet applicants to ensure they support America’s values, institutions and people, and temporarily suspend immigration from regions that export terrorism and where safe vetting cannot presently be ensured.
Enforce the immigration laws of the United States and restore the Constitutional rule of law upon which America’s prosperity and security depend.

Donald J. Trump’s 10 Point Plan to Put America First

1. Begin working on an impenetrable physical wall on the southern border, on day one. Mexico will pay for the wall.

2. End catch-and-release. Under a Trump administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country.

3. Move criminal aliens out day one, in joint operations with local, state, and federal law enforcement. We will terminate the Obama administration’s deadly, non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets.

4. End sanctuary cities.

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.

6. Suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur, until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put into place.

7. Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.

8. Ensure that a biometric entry-exit visa tracking system is fully implemented at all land, air, and sea ports.

9. Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet. Many immigrants come to the U.S. illegally in search of jobs, even though federal law prohibits the employment of illegal immigrants.

10. Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers, keeping immigration levels within historic norms.



https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration/
 
There is no Muslim ban. It was long ago.
There may be a ban from terrorist states (unclear)..but its not strictly religious (though the vast majority would be Muslim).


I do know the "extreme vetting" replaces that original campaign statement
 
Less than 24 hours after Republican Donald Trump was elected president of the United States, his statement calling for a "total and complete shutdown" of Muslims entering the U.S. mysteriously vanished from his campaign website.

In the Dec. 7, 2015, statement Trump, pointed to polling data that suggested 25 percent of Muslims support violence against Americans: "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anyone the hatred is beyond comprehension."

But, without explanation, the signature campaign message is no longer on the president-elect's website, and the page where it once was now redirects to a donation page.

Trump's proposed ban on an entire religion entering the U.S. sparked tremendous backlash — but also tremendous support from groups like the alt-right.

Fear-mongering and anger were central to Trump's message on Muslims, and the candidate doubled-down on the idea after several terror attacks in the U.S., most recently the Chelsea bombing.

The increased use of dog-whistle language has led to an uptick in Islamophobic attacks in 2016. Trump's win on election night has already stoked fear in U.S. Muslims, some women opting to not wear a hijab out of worry of racial abuse.

Trump's campaign has yet to release a statement on the statement's removal from the website.

http://www.aol.com/article/news/201...-ban-statement-removed-from-website/21603226/

some women opting to not wear a hijab out of worry of racial abuse.

If they want to assimilate into the US thats good news.....but no one forcing them to not wear what they want....unlike
their own countries that won't allow American women to dress to our norms in their countries under threat of arrest, whiping, etc....
 
I never saw the cite before tonight, so don't what was there or how his plans were worded before....
number 6 seems to say exactly what he's said months ago on tv.....he did say Muslims on TV and he did say other nations at other times
..... the cite now says ALL places don't have adequate vetting...don't know how it was worded before tonight.....
for all practicable purposes, its essentially the same plan....


Prioritize the jobs, wages and security of the American people.

Establish new immigration controls to boost wages and to ensure that open jobs are offered to American workers first.

Protect the economic well-being of the lawful immigrants already living here by curbing uncontrolled foreign worker admissions
Select immigrants based on their likelihood of success in the U.S. and their ability to be financially self-sufficient.
Vet applicants to ensure they support America’s values, institutions and people, and temporarily suspend immigration from regions that export terrorism and where safe vetting cannot presently be ensured.
Enforce the immigration laws of the United States and restore the Constitutional rule of law upon which America’s prosperity and security depend.

Donald J. Trump’s 10 Point Plan to Put America First

1. Begin working on an impenetrable physical wall on the southern border, on day one. Mexico will pay for the wall.

2. End catch-and-release. Under a Trump administration, anyone who illegally crosses the border will be detained until they are removed out of our country.

3. Move criminal aliens out day one, in joint operations with local, state, and federal law enforcement. We will terminate the Obama administration’s deadly, non-enforcement policies that allow thousands of criminal aliens to freely roam our streets.

4. End sanctuary cities.

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.

6. Suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur, until proven and effective vetting mechanisms can be put into place.

7. Ensure that other countries take their people back when we order them deported.

8. Ensure that a biometric entry-exit visa tracking system is fully implemented at all land, air, and sea ports.

9. Turn off the jobs and benefits magnet. Many immigrants come to the U.S. illegally in search of jobs, even though federal law prohibits the employment of illegal immigrants.

10. Reform legal immigration to serve the best interests of America and its workers, keeping immigration levels within historic norms.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/immigration/

I copied the original statement in #9. Here it is again. The link I added on October 7 now redirects to his donation page.

Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.
 
Since they let him get away w/ being on every side of every issue there is nothing to hold him to....

He is already taking the Muslim ban down from his campaign site.....
You are just such a gullible lot over there, I can't help admiring how he comprehensively made fools out of the media and the DNC.

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His supporters are credulous and gullible if they think trump can snap his fingers and make all his promises come true.
Yes that is absolutely true but I never doubted for a second that most of what he said was bullshit and intended to get votes.
trump and his minions are trying to have it both ways now that the election is over. I posted his website statement here on October 7 and as the article says, the link now leads to his donation page.

If he changed his mind that's a promise he broke to his fearful supporters. Or else Pence is a liar.

Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration


(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-r...im-immigration

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...st-Incendiary-Proposals&p=1724218#post1724218


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There is no Muslim ban. It was long ago.
There may be a ban from terrorist states (unclear)..but its not strictly religious (though the vast majority would be Muslim).


I do know the "extreme vetting" replaces that original campaign statement
What does extreme vetting look like??
 
What does extreme vetting look like??
beats me..I think you are the first to actually ask.
the general idea is bacause ISIL had a passport printing press in Raqqa -you can't trust Syrian passports.

But we already do extreme vetting. Clinton wanted to increase the speed of vetting ( 65k) a year. we can only process <10k

So I imagine ( guess( it will stay about the same,unless there is some kina freeze
 
You are just such a gullible lot over there, I can't help admiring how he comprehensively made fools out of the media and the DNC.

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Don't forget the gop as well, they didn't want to run him...

Unfortunately here many, far to many rely on tv to tell them what to think, rather than gather info & forming their own opinions...

I dunno about the UK but here the ppl fear the gubment, unlike a place like France where the gubment fears the ppl...

He played the media for sure, but they smiled all the way to the bank....

The DNC, like the GOP where overwhelmed but I dunno what the DNC could have done given they where running w/ hillary :dunno:

He promised the moon & she ignored many segments of society which I still can't understand..
 
What does extreme vetting look like??
A friend of mine from Yemen originally was refused entry at Chicago airport back in March. He was held for seven hours and deported because he filled the form in wrong apparently. Even though the bastards knew that the new form hadn't been put up online when he filled it in.

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A friend of mine from Yemen originally was refused entry at Chicago airport back in March. He was held for seven hours and deported because he filled the form in wrong apparently. Even though the bastards knew that the new form hadn't been put up online when he filled it in.

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That's Homeland Security madness. The vetting is background -not forms.

. Refugees are screened by several different agencies.
http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456395388/paris-attacks-ignite-debate-over-u-s-refugee-policy
Their first point of a refugee's contact is with the U.N. High Commission for Refugees. The UNHCR refers people to countries based on whether they have any family members there and where resettlement makes the most sense, say U.S. officials. If that's the U.S., then refugees are vetted by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center, and the Departments of State, Defense and Homeland Security. Fingerprints are taken, biographical information is collected. They are then each individually interviewed by U.S. officials trained to verify that they're bona fide refugees.
Refugees from Syria are then subject to additional screening that looks at where they came from and what caused them to flee their home, stories that are checked out. All of this occurs before a refugee is allowed to set foot in the country.
2. It's a lengthy process.

As you might imagine, all of the vetting, from interviews to fingerprinting, takes a while. On average, officials say it's 18 to 24 months before a refugee is approved for admission to the U.S.
 
A friend of mine from Yemen originally was refused entry at Chicago airport back in March. He was held for seven hours and deported because he filled the form in wrong apparently. Even though the bastards knew that the new form hadn't been put up online when he filled it in.

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Sadly I am afraid there will be a lot more of that.....

Our relationships w/ many, if not all countries w/ Muslims is going to be damaged....
 
But I am a single mother who can’t afford health insurance under Obamacare. The president’s mortgage-loan modification program, “HOPE NOW,” didn’t help me. Tuesday, I drove into Virginia from my hometown of Morgantown, W.Va., where I see rural America and ordinary Americans, like me, still struggling to make ends meet, after eight years of the Obama administration.

Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State. Of course, Trump’s rhetoric has been far more than indelicate and folks can have policy differences with his recommendations, but, to me, it has been exaggerated and demonized by the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, their media channels, such as Al Jazeera, and their proxies in the West, in a convenient distraction from the issue that most worries me as a human being on this earth: extremist Islam of the kind that has spilled blood from the hallways of the Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai to the dance floor of the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla.

By mid-October, it was one Aug. 17, 2014, email from the WikiLeaks treasure trove of Clinton emails that poisoned the well for me. In it, Clinton told aide John Podesta: “We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL,” the politically correct name for the Islamic State, “and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”

The revelations of multimillion-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation from Qatar and Saudi Arabia killed my support for Clinton. Yes, I want equal pay. No, I reject Trump’s “locker room” banter, the idea of a “wall” between the United States and Mexico and a plan to “ban” Muslims.
But I trust the United States and don’t buy the political hyperbole — agenda-driven identity politics of its own — that demonized Trump and his supporters.

I gently tried to express my thoughts on Twitter but the “Pantsuit revolution” was like a steamroller to any nuanced discourse.
If you supported Trump, you had to be a redneck.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/
 
I copied the original statement in #9. Here it is again. The link I added on October 7 now redirects to his donation page.

Donald J. Trump Statement on Preventing Muslim Immigration

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Then it says essentially the same thing....now including the people of all countries where adequate vetting cannot be done.
 
Hey ....me too Bro.....only it was Czechoslovakia then, and Yugoslavia on my Pop's side.... :cof1:

Slovenia was a part of Yugoslavia, but was not a part of Czechoslovakia. Don't confuse the Slovenes with the Slovaks. I am both Czech and Slovene on my dad's side. Ethnically, I am probably not all that Slovene, as they evidently migrated there from Greece to escape from the Turks. Somehow, they maintained their Greek Orthodox identity, and never converted the Catholicism.
 
Slovenia was a part of Yugoslavia, but was not a part of Czechoslovakia. Don't confuse the Slovenes with the Slovaks. I am both Czech and Slovene on my dad's side. Ethnically, I am probably not all that Slovene, as they evidently migrated there from Greece to escape from the Turks. Somehow, they maintained their Greek Orthodox identity, and never converted the Catholicism.

Tracking you family tree is Interesting stuff....we've traced our roots back to Bosnia, 1782. Still have relatives there that various cousins have gone to meet in the last few years....some even in New Zealand that traveled here and I've met....even have a Muslim in the family from the 1700's in Bosina, but eventually they did convert to Roman Catholic .....mothers side of the family was from Czechoslovakia but we don't know much about that branch of the tree...a few photos from 1920's but no real data.
Yeah, its real interesting stuff .....
My wife's lineage is pretty extensive too, thanks to her oldest brother...100% Irish all the way
 
Oh, she broke the law by working with a visitor visa and trump, Melania and their shyster lawyer all lied about it, but that's different. He'll give her a pardon on his first day in office.

You sure believe just about anything about the Trump family with little to no proof.....yet deny everything about the Clintons in spite of mountains of proof.....why is that.
 
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