Why democrats cannot take winning the popular vote as a "consolation prize"

Thing1 said:
You're really not nearly as intelligent as you think you are.

I mean, not even a fraction.

Just sayin'.
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^This is a perfect example of irony; an unintelligent leftist twit claiming others lack intelligence.

I bet you think this was an argument don't you shit-for-brains. You really are too stupid for prime time. :rofl2:
 
Threedee said:
Grind, Douchebag Donald is the biggest joke of a candidate the GOP has ever put forward. Even Goldwater was pretty serious by comparison. He just wasn't as un-electable as Crooked Hillary.
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:rofl2: I love watching liberals cry first thing in the morning. I hope the first order of business is to rescind Obamacare; we don't need ONE steenking Democratic vote to do it.

Republicans should ram through every program they ever desired their first year just like the Democrats and Obama did in 2009. :rofl2:
 
Irish said:
Popular vote is fucking meaningless. Wow more people in Cali voted for Hilary that ppl in Wyoming.

Guess what? Doesn't mean jack shit! We have a constitution, and we have states rights. This is a republic, and the united STATES. Not united random morons in California.

The electoral college was actually implemented to help northern small states.
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...or random morons in New York and New Joisey. :rofl2:
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
Here is the basic facts. Hillary is winning by the absolute slimmest of margins, statistically, it is insignificant. We are talking 1/10th of 1%. Paltry numbers.

I will use liberals own words and own beliefs, I will accept what they have been saying for the past year at face value, and it is this:

1) Hillary Clinton is the most qualified, most experienced, most capable candidate the nation has ever had. She helped needy children, she was first lady, she was a senator, and secretary of state. She had 30 years of public service. She had an impeccable ground game, a rockstar legacy name, extreme public recognition, everyone in the DNC owed her favors. She was the A+ candidate. You said it yourselves. Democrats could not have a better person running for office. This is what you all said.

Concurrently:

2) Donald Trump is the anti-christ. He is mean, he is a bully. He made fun of a handicapped reporter. He made fun of war veteran john mccain and picked a fight with the grieving father Khan. He made fun of women's menstrual cycles, called a miss america contestant miss piggy, he had women lining up claiming they were sexually assaulted by him. He called mexicans rapists, called for a ban of muslims. He talked about grabbing women by the pussy. He was the most evil, racist, xenophobic, fascist, hitler-esque candidate ever put forth by the republicans. He was a man that divided his own party, with #nevertrumpers popping up, former presidential candidates calling him a fraud and a phony. By every measure, you claimed Trump was the biggest joke of a candidate the republicans ever put forth. See the liberal reaction here just one year ago to get a sense of the level of disrespect you had for trump:


Liberals, by their own words and beliefs have declared they had an "A+" candidate vs. the Republicans "F" candidate. The match could not be anymore unequal.

And even with all that, liberals could only win the popular vote by 1/10th of 1%. That is fucking pathetic

That is a rebuke, whether you want to admit it or not, and I will elaborate why.

What happens the next time republicans put forth a candiate that uses the same dog whistle politics, but doesn't grab women by the pussy, and doesn't insult the father of dead kids? What happens when they don't nominate someone that gets into twitter wars - in short, what happens when republicans nominate a more polished 'C' level candidate?

If your A+ candidate can only win by 1/10th of 1% of the popular vote (while still losing where it counts, mind you.. lest we forget), then what happens the next time you don't have the most qualified and experienced person running for office? (Because you do realize, candidates like that don't come around very often, right)?

If you can't even win the electoral college with your A+ vs. the Republicans F, and can only have the absolute infestessmail of victories in the popular margin, what happens with your B vs. a republican F?

or your C vs. a Republican B?

Or your B vs. a Republican B?

Liberals got fucking wrecked. If you can't even win with your best vs. your opponents worst, then you can't fucking win, period.

But hey! You won the popular vote! Give yourselves a pat on the back!
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Moot point Grind. Being an unpopularity elected President didn't stop W from declaring a mandate and implementing a far right wing agenda.
 
I was one of the few here who said when Trump announced that he COULD win. I didn't support him in the primaries and even today, I am not a "supporter". I have been very clear my vote encompassed two things

1) Keeping the criminal element that is the Clintons out of the White House
2) Supreme Court nominations

Mark this post. I know that Trump is not a conservative. I know he is going to push/pass legislation that I will find abhorrent. So all of you lefties out there lying in wait ready to pounce when that inevitably happens, rest assured that I will not be a HYPOCRITE.

If Trump fucks me on judges then it is game on. I will be watching.

One thing to consider for those of you thinking he will bust the budget, look at the shoestring budget he ran his campaign on compared to Crooked Hillary
 
Teflon Don said:
I know that Trump is not a conservative. I know he is going to push/pass legislation that I will find abhorrent.
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I guess you forgot that he can't pass anything that isn't first voted on and passed by the House and the Senate. Sometimes you don't think before you it that send button...but I do agree with the rest of your post. LOL
 
Trump has a lot of flaws and questionable morals and ethics but he won the election legitimately and I think he should be given a fair chance. Also fly over states have just as much invested in the country and are just as American as other parts of America.
 
Norah said:
Trump has a lot of flaws and questionable morals and ethics but he won the election legitimately and I think he should be given a fair chance. Also fly over states have just as much invested in the country and are just as American as other parts of America.
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Amen!
 
Hillary was no A candidate. Bernie may have done better but he was horrible. Warren seems to be the worst of Bernie and Hillary combined.

The problem was that Hillary was chosen 8 years ago after losing to Obama. There was almost no one willing to challenge her or cultivate any challengers.

Your arguments are always so weak. The victory in the popular vote nationally by a small margin is insignificant in future races but winning the electoral college due to a combination of victories by very small margins is? Says who?

This is why you blew that right to die debate.
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
so your argument is that Hillary is no A candidate, but the Dems didn't have anyone better.......do you think that contradicts Grind's argument or concedes it?
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It should have been clear (from the parts of my argument you excluded) that my point was that Hillary was chosen 8 years ago, the party failed to cultivate alternatives and there was no real consideration if anyone was better. Bernie only challenged her because he was not really popular with the party bosses anyway.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
I think you miss the point of my entire post. It's not that he "lost" the popular vote, (which is insignificant and almost a dead tie in every statistical manner of speaking) but that if he was really as bad as you claim, and clinton was as good as many liberals claimed, then it's still a completely embarrassing finish. If an A+ nominee can't trounce an F nominee, then you'll be hopeless with B and C level candidates against average republican candidates.

Either that or people will have to be honest with themselves that clinton was a garbage pick, and trump maybe wasn't such a bad pick, strategically. People go on and on about how any other candidate would have troucned clinton but I am not sure of that. I don't see Jeb or Rubio taking WI and MI. They are for free trade and trump won those people over with protectionism. Elitest globalist jeb or rubio or kasich wouldn't have done that.
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Excellent point. Great post.
 
Truth Detector said:
:rofl2: I love watching liberals cry first thing in the morning. I hope the first order of business is to rescind Obamacare; we don't need ONE steenking Democratic vote to do it.

Republicans should ram through every program they ever desired their first year just like the Democrats and Obama did in 2009. :rofl2:
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If Douchebag Donald is willing to sign-off on stuff, I'm all for that.
 
Dick from the Internet said:
It should have been clear (from the parts of my argument you excluded) that my point was that Hillary was chosen 8 years ago, the party failed to cultivate alternatives and there was no real consideration if anyone was better. Bernie only challenged her because he was not really popular with the party bosses anyway.
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dude.....Hillary was chosen in August......its not our fault you haven't been able to find anyone better than she was in the last eight years......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
dude.....Hillary was chosen in August......its not our fault you haven't been able to find anyone better than she was in the last eight years......
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You are so confused. I never said it was your fault, dumbass. I said "the party failed." Are you the Democratic party or a member?

Again, my point was that the DEMOCRATS FAILED not because of there being no potentially better alternatives but than none of them were ever given consideration.
 
Dick from the Internet said:
You are so confused. I never said it was your fault, dumbass. I said "the party failed." Are you the Democratic party or a member?

Again, my point was that the DEMOCRATS FAILED not because of there being no potentially better alternatives but than none of them were ever given consideration.
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no......you failed because you didn't cultivate a better alternative......its like not weeding the garden for eight years or planting any seeds and wondering why the fuck you didn't get the prize for the best tomato at the fair.......
 
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