Clinton’s Attacks On Trump’s Russia Ties Failed. Now What?

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At the top of Hillary Clinton’s Twitter feed is a pinned tweet that links to a Franklin Foer story in Slate magazine headlined “Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?”
The story isn’t poorly written so much as vaguely written. It never quite explains what exactly is going on or why it’s disconcerting.

Clinton’s tweet recognizes that fatal flaw, so she summarizes and repackages it. “Four things you need to know about the Trump organization’s secret server to communicate with Russian Alfa Bank,” she says:

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People on social media more knowledgeable of the underlying technology in play didn’t love it and began poking holes in it immediately. These tweets are the first of threads detailing some of the problems with the story, such as that there is no private server, and that it wasn’t set up to communicate with a Putin-tied Russian bank, and that it wasn’t shut down after a reporter inquiry, and wasn’t re-set up for the same purpose it never had.

Within hours, the New York Times — the New York Times — had published a story that threw cold water on whatever exactly Foer was suggesting:

F.B.I. officials spent weeks examining computer data showing an odd stream of activity to a Trump Organization server and Alfa Bank. Computer logs obtained by The New York Times show that two servers at Alfa Bank sent more than 2,700 “look-up” messages — a first step for one system’s computers to talk to another — to a Trump-connected server beginning in the spring. But the F.B.I. ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts.

Editors started saying that they’d passed on the story when they’d been pitched it because it was such a nothingburger.
Noah Schachtman of the Daily Beast said of its flaws, “that’s why we ultimately passed on it.” John Little of Blogs of War just said he passed on account of the anonymous sources.
Sam Biddle at The Intercept said that “at least five outlets including The Intercept have been looking at this for weeks and decided it didn’t add up.”

But that wasn’t all. At the exact same time as Foer’s failed story dropped, a flurry of anonymously sourced stories all tried to hit the same drumbeat.

Reporters Ken Dilanian, Cynthia McFadden, William M. Arkin and Tom Winter wrote a piece claiming that an unspecified number of vague anonymous sources had told the quartet that a former Trump advisor was getting an, um, “FBI inquiry,” which is to say a preliminary examination and not a criminal investigation. There was no verification of this claim provided in the story.

Mother Jones’ David Corn reported that “A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump.” The story is built on a single anonymous primary source. There is no evidence to substantiate his claims. And while former intelligence officers speaking off the record happens about 200 times a day, one has to particularly appreciate the idea that this veteran spy leaked to Mother Jones, supposedly. All trustworthy but totally anonymous veteran spies who want to cast aspersions on Russia leak to Mother Jones. This particular combination is my favorite of yesterday’s opposition research dump. Or as Daniel Foster said, “It’s far more plausible that the [Mother Jones] story is a Russian op than it is that it’s true.” :)

Eamon Javers at CNBC wrote a story — with, you guessed it, a single anonymous source — claiming that FBI Director James Comey wouldn’t name Russia as meddling in the U.S. election and wouldn’t have the FBI’s name on a document saying as much. Eavers’ super-anonymous “former bureau official” says he heard that Comey privately thought it was too close to election day to make such statements. To quote a wise man, “I mean, seriously? What the hell kind of sourcing is this?”

By the fourth story, some reporters noted the obvious — that this was a coordinated “opposition research” dump, albeit a very poorly orchestrated one. Partisans pushed back and said it could have just been a coincidence that a bunch of half-baked pieces on the same theme all ran within hours of each other. (This was very different than the fights reporters had about whether the reopening of the investigation into Clinton’s mishandling of classified information should be covered.)

Here’s another coincidence! Sen. Harry Reid — who spent much of 2012 lying repeatedly about Mitt Romney not paying any taxes — got yesterday’s news going with a letter that just happened to be about, well look at that, Trump and Russia. What are the odds? It was also about how Comey, who was the best FBI director in the history of FBI directors when he let Hillary Clinton skate, is now the world’s most evil person and is violating the law by continuing to investigate the former Secretary of State for her mishandling of classified information.

That’s particularly true when considering the rather bizarre and opposite response of kowtowing to Clinton demands that Friday’s news about the investigation being reopened instead be mostly about the formerly sainted Comey. Much of the coverage of the FBI chief has turned on a dime since he reopened the investigation, to the point that the New York Times is literally running this headline today:

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eft by the wayside are explosive stories that haven’t even begun to be researched and reported on, such as the $28 million Hillary Clinton received, allegedly for favors to Morocco; and the fact that the Clinton Foundation itself is under FBI investigation for influence peddling, and the tangled web of a close Clinton ally giving a massive political donation to the wife of a top FBI investigator; and that investigator allegedly slow-walking the investigation into Huma Abedin past the election; and Comey going to Congress in part because of the problems with Clinton-compromised superiors and underlings.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/01/clintons-attacks-on-trumps-russia-ties-failed-now-what/
 
i dont think the russia thing ever really worked. THey made headway wit hthe pussy stuff but overplayed it.
 
It was silly to try and invoke the red menace but she lied her way into a corner. DOnkey party should have known better.
 
i dont think the russia thing ever really worked. THey made headway wit hthe pussy stuff but overplayed it.

They had nothing to run on and the headwinds from a failed bo administration were gale force.
THEY got aught with no candidate when even Biden knew better than to step in.
Donkeys need a serious reboot, they're a mess
 
crooked clintons whole trump-russia thing is laughable. First, there is no evidence, and it was an obvious failed media blitz. Second, who cares? I am not a boomer, we aren't in the cold war anymore as obama said in 2012. It just shows how out of touch she is. Does she really think Russia is some big bad boogeyman to america? Like just having an association with russia would ruin someone? This isn't 1962.
 
At the top of Hillary Clinton’s Twitter feed is a pinned tweet that links to a Franklin Foer story in Slate magazine headlined “Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?”
The story isn’t poorly written so much as vaguely written. It never quite explains what exactly is going on or why it’s disconcerting.

Clinton’s tweet recognizes that fatal flaw, so she summarizes and repackages it. “Four things you need to know about the Trump organization’s secret server to communicate with Russian Alfa Bank,” she says:

Screen-Shot-2016-11-01-at-12.16.48-AM.png


People on social media more knowledgeable of the underlying technology in play didn’t love it and began poking holes in it immediately. These tweets are the first of threads detailing some of the problems with the story, such as that there is no private server, and that it wasn’t set up to communicate with a Putin-tied Russian bank, and that it wasn’t shut down after a reporter inquiry, and wasn’t re-set up for the same purpose it never had.

Within hours, the New York Times — the New York Times — had published a story that threw cold water on whatever exactly Foer was suggesting:

F.B.I. officials spent weeks examining computer data showing an odd stream of activity to a Trump Organization server and Alfa Bank. Computer logs obtained by The New York Times show that two servers at Alfa Bank sent more than 2,700 “look-up” messages — a first step for one system’s computers to talk to another — to a Trump-connected server beginning in the spring. But the F.B.I. ultimately concluded that there could be an innocuous explanation, like a marketing email or spam, for the computer contacts.

Editors started saying that they’d passed on the story when they’d been pitched it because it was such a nothingburger.
Noah Schachtman of the Daily Beast said of its flaws, “that’s why we ultimately passed on it.” John Little of Blogs of War just said he passed on account of the anonymous sources.
Sam Biddle at The Intercept said that “at least five outlets including The Intercept have been looking at this for weeks and decided it didn’t add up.”

But that wasn’t all. At the exact same time as Foer’s failed story dropped, a flurry of anonymously sourced stories all tried to hit the same drumbeat.

Reporters Ken Dilanian, Cynthia McFadden, William M. Arkin and Tom Winter wrote a piece claiming that an unspecified number of vague anonymous sources had told the quartet that a former Trump advisor was getting an, um, “FBI inquiry,” which is to say a preliminary examination and not a criminal investigation. There was no verification of this claim provided in the story.

Mother Jones’ David Corn reported that “A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump.” The story is built on a single anonymous primary source. There is no evidence to substantiate his claims. And while former intelligence officers speaking off the record happens about 200 times a day, one has to particularly appreciate the idea that this veteran spy leaked to Mother Jones, supposedly. All trustworthy but totally anonymous veteran spies who want to cast aspersions on Russia leak to Mother Jones. This particular combination is my favorite of yesterday’s opposition research dump. Or as Daniel Foster said, “It’s far more plausible that the [Mother Jones] story is a Russian op than it is that it’s true.” :)

Eamon Javers at CNBC wrote a story — with, you guessed it, a single anonymous source — claiming that FBI Director James Comey wouldn’t name Russia as meddling in the U.S. election and wouldn’t have the FBI’s name on a document saying as much. Eavers’ super-anonymous “former bureau official” says he heard that Comey privately thought it was too close to election day to make such statements. To quote a wise man, “I mean, seriously? What the hell kind of sourcing is this?”

By the fourth story, some reporters noted the obvious — that this was a coordinated “opposition research” dump, albeit a very poorly orchestrated one. Partisans pushed back and said it could have just been a coincidence that a bunch of half-baked pieces on the same theme all ran within hours of each other. (This was very different than the fights reporters had about whether the reopening of the investigation into Clinton’s mishandling of classified information should be covered.)

Here’s another coincidence! Sen. Harry Reid — who spent much of 2012 lying repeatedly about Mitt Romney not paying any taxes — got yesterday’s news going with a letter that just happened to be about, well look at that, Trump and Russia. What are the odds? It was also about how Comey, who was the best FBI director in the history of FBI directors when he let Hillary Clinton skate, is now the world’s most evil person and is violating the law by continuing to investigate the former Secretary of State for her mishandling of classified information.

That’s particularly true when considering the rather bizarre and opposite response of kowtowing to Clinton demands that Friday’s news about the investigation being reopened instead be mostly about the formerly sainted Comey. Much of the coverage of the FBI chief has turned on a dime since he reopened the investigation, to the point that the New York Times is literally running this headline today:

Screen-Shot-2016-11-01-at-2.13.43-AM.png


eft by the wayside are explosive stories that haven’t even begun to be researched and reported on, such as the $28 million Hillary Clinton received, allegedly for favors to Morocco; and the fact that the Clinton Foundation itself is under FBI investigation for influence peddling, and the tangled web of a close Clinton ally giving a massive political donation to the wife of a top FBI investigator; and that investigator allegedly slow-walking the investigation into Huma Abedin past the election; and Comey going to Congress in part because of the problems with Clinton-compromised superiors and underlings.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/01/clintons-attacks-on-trumps-russia-ties-failed-now-what/

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It was silly to try and invoke the red menace but she lied her way into a corner. DOnkey party should have known better.

The Russia thing didn't work for bush either, in case you forgot.

"Looked at in the context of time, Obama’s own dashed aspirations to build a new partnership with Moscow seem to echo his predecessor’s experience. Bush thought he could forge more meaningful ties with Russia in his early years, particularly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and for a time seemed to make significant headway with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to become frustrated as the two countries diverged, eventually coming into overt diplomatic conflict during the Georgia war of 2008.

Obama likewise came into office intent on pushing the “reset” button and similarly saw early progress with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to find his efforts increasingly thwarted by the same Putinist revanchism. Whether the recent Russian-American collaboration to disarm Syria’s chemical stocks will turn out to be a more enduring foundation for change remains to be seen.

If Obama were to look back at his predecessor’s experience, though, he might recognize how easy it is to misjudge Moscow’s intentions by superimposing American ideas of what Russian interests should be rather than understanding how Putin and his circle of KGB veterans and zero-sum-gamers actually see those interests. Again and again, Bush and Obama have assessed Russia through an American prism and come away disappointed that the view from the Kremlin looks different than they thought it ought to."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/
 
Clinton’s Attacks On Trump’s Russia Ties Failed. Now What?

Hell.....that's the kind o' shit that ratfuckers PULL!!!! The Dems HAD to expect them.....especially when two pigs, like Trumpy & Roger Stone are involved!!!!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...one-Trumpy-The-Klown!!!&p=1718437#post1718437


It surely is entertaining to see them getting busted, DURING a campaign, for a Change!!!

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https://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/fb...trump-campaign-manager-manforts-foreign-ties/
 
there is nothing there. The Clinton narrative wants to make something there..
Actually, you really need to expand your horizons. The Federalist? Fox? What the fuck happened to you?

What she tweeted was true. I posted the article in a thread that you never bothered to read. Better to just check a Teabag website?

Once Trump was alerted that the NY Times was going to report this, the server was shut down.

And new domain name was set up, and the Alfa bank miraculously found the new domain.

The only speculation is to exactly what the thousands of communications between Trump/Russia were.


Don't conflate this issue with the fact that Russia did indeed hack the DNC. That isn't even up for debate.
 
The Russia thing didn't work for bush either, in case you forgot.

"Looked at in the context of time, Obama’s own dashed aspirations to build a new partnership with Moscow seem to echo his predecessor’s experience. Bush thought he could forge more meaningful ties with Russia in his early years, particularly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and for a time seemed to make significant headway with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to become frustrated as the two countries diverged, eventually coming into overt diplomatic conflict during the Georgia war of 2008.

Obama likewise came into office intent on pushing the “reset” button and similarly saw early progress with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to find his efforts increasingly thwarted by the same Putinist revanchism. Whether the recent Russian-American collaboration to disarm Syria’s chemical stocks will turn out to be a more enduring foundation for change remains to be seen.

If Obama were to look back at his predecessor’s experience, though, he might recognize how easy it is to misjudge Moscow’s intentions by superimposing American ideas of what Russian interests should be rather than understanding how Putin and his circle of KGB veterans and zero-sum-gamers actually see those interests. Again and again, Bush and Obama have assessed Russia through an American prism and come away disappointed that the view from the Kremlin looks different than they thought it ought to."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/

Bush tried to blame Russia for exposing his pay to play scam ? I don't recall that.
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Actually, you really need to expand your horizons. The Federalist? Fox? What the fuck happened to you?

What she tweeted was true. I posted the article in a thread that you never bothered to read. Better to just check a Teabag website?

Once Trump was alerted that the NY Times was going to report this, the server was shut down.

And new domain name was set up, and the Alfa bank miraculously found the new domain.

The only speculation is to exactly what the thousands of communications between Trump/Russia were.


Don't conflate this issue with the fact that Russia did indeed hack the DNC. That isn't even up for debate.

Yup, glad you noticed too. He has gone full retard.
You never go full retard.
Aparently anatta's fear of Hillary has so deranged him that he has lost all of his once good judgement.
He routinely posts editorial content as factual as well as using far right sources with no discretion.
There is no more Cosmic Rocker, he is just a shadow now.
 
The Russia thing didn't work for bush either, in case you forgot.

"Looked at in the context of time, Obama’s own dashed aspirations to build a new partnership with Moscow seem to echo his predecessor’s experience. Bush thought he could forge more meaningful ties with Russia in his early years, particularly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and for a time seemed to make significant headway with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to become frustrated as the two countries diverged, eventually coming into overt diplomatic conflict during the Georgia war of 2008.

Obama likewise came into office intent on pushing the “reset” button and similarly saw early progress with a nuclear arms treaty and cooperation on Afghanistan, only to find his efforts increasingly thwarted by the same Putinist revanchism. Whether the recent Russian-American collaboration to disarm Syria’s chemical stocks will turn out to be a more enduring foundation for change remains to be seen.

If Obama were to look back at his predecessor’s experience, though, he might recognize how easy it is to misjudge Moscow’s intentions by superimposing American ideas of what Russian interests should be rather than understanding how Putin and his circle of KGB veterans and zero-sum-gamers actually see those interests. Again and again, Bush and Obama have assessed Russia through an American prism and come away disappointed that the view from the Kremlin looks different than they thought it ought to."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/

Bush tried to blame Russia for exposing his pay to play scam ? I don't recall that.
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Christie just can't stop posting irrelevant crap that has nothing to with the thread......

Poor Christie
 
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