Gingrich, leader of fight to impeach Clinton, calls Kelly out

christiefan915 said:
Trump and his campaign claim that Clinton “gave” or “handed over” 20 percent of American uranium rights to the Russians. Through the Uranium One deal, the Russian state-owned nuclear energy company does now have control over 20 percent of U.S. uranium extraction capacity. But it cannot export the uranium.

In 2010, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States approved the sale of the majority of the shares to the Russians. The State Department was one of nine agencies on the committee that approved the deal. The deal was also separately approved by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Theoretically, as Schweizer says, Clinton could have intervened. But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.

Trump could have avoided so many Pinocchios had he been more careful with the language. For example: “Hillary Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that approved the deal.” Words matter.

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You're WashPO 'fact checker' gave pinnochios to a straw man.

"The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/2...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
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Again, NOT ONCE was Hillary made to defend this deal that enriched her foundation in the debates. But Trump was made to defend every verbal gaffe.
 
Stretch said:
And, here we have more feigned hypocritical outrage regarding how women should be thought of by the Obamas:

Michelle Obama's Promotion of Misogyny and Date Rape

from American Thinker By William A. Levinson October 16, 2016

Michelle Obama laid into Donald Trump for his lewd locker room remarks about women as follows: "I can't stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way I could not have predicted" -- whereupon the White House warned Trump to not retaliate against the First Lady.

"And the White House on Thursday advised that Trump continue to steer clear of the president's wife, suggesting that an unprecedented attack on the first lady is a surefire way for the GOP nominee's standing to plummet further."

Well, Eric Schultz (and presumably Barack Obama), here is what you can do with your warning. Donald Trump's statements, which were probably empty boasts in contrast to Bill Clinton's well-known behavior, were indeed lewd and unacceptable. While two wrongs do not make a right, Michelle and Barack Obama have openly promoted rap artists who glorify misogyny, sexual objectification of women, and even date rape. That's right; I am indeed calling out our country's sorry excuse for a First Lady for her and her husband's deplorable legitimization of the most despicable misogynistic language on earth.

In April 2016, the Obamas invited numerous rap artists to the White House to discuss Barack Obama's "My Brother's Keeper" initiative while recognizing them for their "artistic" contributions to minority communities. The rappers whom the Obamas promoted with these invitations include:

•Rick Ross's, "U.O.N.E.O." glorifies date rape with the lyrics, "Put molly all in her champagne/ She ain't even know it / I took her home and I enjoyed that/ She ain't even know it." While Ross denies that this was his intended meaning, "molly" is slang for Ecstasy, a well-known date rape drug, and the context of "molly" in his lyrics shows clearly that a man put it into a woman's drink without her knowledge or consent so he could have sex with her. Ross' "Same Hoes" is meanwhile not about agricultural implements as shown by its lyrics, which consist primarily of the F word, a variant of the N word, and "hoes."
•Common, whose "Go!" includes, "And a ooh baby she liked it raw and like rain when she came it poured" along with a variant of the N word and even more sexually explicit lyrics.
•Jay Z, who proclaims, "I've got 99 problems and a b***h ain't one."
•Michelle Obama called out Trump's remarks with the words, "What message are our little girls hearing about who they should look like, how they should act?" Nicki Minaj, another rapper whom she and her husband brought to the White House, answers that question in "Hey Mama," "Make sure mama crawls on her knees keep him pleased rub him down be a lady and a freak" and also "Yes I do the cooking/ Yes I do the cleaning/ Yes I keep the nana real sweet for your eating/ Yes you be the (boss) yes I be respecting." It doesn't take a feminist to dismiss these words as belonging in a fundamentalist "Islamic" country, assuming that they ever belonged anywhere at all.
•Lifezette.com adds, "And of course, who could forget about the Obamas' cozy relationship with Jay Z and Beyoncé, who have been guests of the president and first lady on multiple occasions?" Jay Z joined Beyoncé in "Drunk in Love". The lyrics include, "Slid the panties right to the side/ Ain`t got the time to take drawers off" and "We sex again in the morning, your breasteses [sic] is my breakfast."
•Beyoncé's "Partition" includes far cruder and more explicit language, whose sole redeeming virtue is to remind everybody that Hillary's husband actually did what Donald Trump talked about. "He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/
He monica-lewinski'd all on my gown," to which she adds, "Hand prints and good grips all on my ass." Beyoncé is certainly No Angel as shown by this line: "First, both of my legs go back on your head/ And whatever you want, yeah baby I'll bet it comes true."

The phrase, "Right message, wrong messenger" applies perfectly here. While Donald Trump's previous statements were crude, coarse, and lewd, nobody who promotes and mainstreams misogyny, subservience of women, and date rape has the moral standing to condemn them. Michelle Obama's words also come across as an obviously partisan attack noting her total silence on Bill Clinton's misogyny and sexual exploitation of women, as well as Hillary Clinton's complicity in the same.
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These are not trying to become President of the USA. Why are you compliciant in Trump misogyny and sexual predation?
 
Rana said:
These are not trying to become President of the USA. Why are you compliciant in Trump misogyny and sexual predation?
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If you're going to go for the moral high ground you can't have it both ways. You either condemn misogyny across the board or you go about your business and don't comment on it. It can't be a bad thing just when Trump is guilty of it or you [and the Obama's] will get called out on your hypocrisy.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
If you're going to go for the moral high ground you can't have it both ways. You either condemn misogyny across the board or you go about your business and don't comment on it. It can't be a bad thing just when Trump is guilty of it or you [and the Obama's] will get called out on your hypocrisy.
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If you're going to focus on Clinton's sex life for close to 2 years in the '90's, maybe it's best not to say that a cable host is "fascinated with sex" after 2 weeks of coverage on Trump.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
If you're going to go for the moral high ground you can't have it both ways. You either condemn misogyny across the board or you go about your business and don't comment on it. It can't be a bad thing just when Trump is guilty of it or you [and the Obama's] will get called out on your hypocrisy.
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I do condemn it, but Hillary is not guilty of misogyny where is you are by supporting Trump an admitted sexual predator.
I do not support Bill Clinton's predatory actions. I feel bad for both Hillary and Melania, and do not criticize their reasons for staying with their husbands.

You support Trump and his misogyny and you aren't married to him.
 
Rana said:
I do condemn it, but Hillary is not guilty of misogyny where is you are by supporting Trump an admitted sexual predator.
I do not support Bill Clinton's predatory actions. I feel bad for both Hillary and Melania, and do not criticize their reasons for staying with their husbands.

You support Trump and his misogyny and you aren't married to him.
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consensual is not preditory
 
Rana said:
There are those who claim it was not consensual, they must be given the benefit of the doubt till they are proven false.
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I believe Paula Jones & Kathleen Wiley; I think their stories are fairly consistent w/ the portrait of the man that has been outlined over the years. I do think Clinton is a pretty slimy guy when it comes to women.

And I believe Trump's accusers. We KNOW - without doubt, at all - that Trump is a sexist & misogynist, who sees women as things that he rates on a 1-10 scale. We also know, by his own words, that he gropes and kisses women without consent.
 
Thing1 said:
Anyone catch that exchange?

What an unbelievable hypocrite. Saying she's "fascinated with sex" after a few weeks of coverage, compared to how much time he spent taking Clinton down in the '90's.

Check it on youtube, and check the comments section underneath the video. Trump/Gingrich have really made America safe for disgusting sexists & misogynists again.

Make no mistake: these people hate women. They absolutely despise women.
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Trump has a couple of real winners in his surrogates. Gingrich and Giuliani. Both off their fucking rockers.
 
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