Who Will Bang Their Heads If Malaysia And Thailand Build A Border Wall

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Whilst Americans have been discussing a wall on the Mexican border, Thailand and Malaysia have been doing the same in an attempt to keep out Muslim rebels.

Prime ministers from Malaysia and Thailand have started to discuss building a wall along their land border to control rebels that have vexed Bangkok for decades. Thai junta leader Prayut Chan-o-cha and Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak broached the topic last week at an annual consultation, leaving doors open to more talks. Border walls and other fortifications are nothing new. Eastern European countries are working on theirs to stem migration from Syria. The United States and Mexico have fortified much of the 3,141 km (1,951 miles) between them to discourage illegal northbound immigration. A wall can feasibly be done. But it’s unclear how many people would bang their heads against a wall along the 640 km-long Thai-Malaysia border.

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Members of a bomb squad inspect the site of a motocycle blast in front of a school by suspected separatist militants in the Takbai district of Thailand’s restive southern province of Narathiwat on September 6, 2016.

A well-guarded wall would make it easier to quell the violent Muslim-backed insurgency in southern Thailand. Separatists in four southern provinces had killed 6,500 people and injured 12,000 over the decade to 2015, according to figures in the Bangkok Post. The border matters because militants in one elusive group called Runda Kumpulan Kecil flee to Malaysia after bombings, arson and murders in Thailand, according to the Terrorism Monitor. Since 2004, Thai authorities have “continually alleged that militants have crossed over into Malaysia after conducting attacks,” the Monitor’s 2007 report says.

These types would find it harder to sneak over the notoriously porous land border as they do now and instead line up at approved checkpoints with everyone else. Thailand may be asked to pay for most of the wall as it benefits them more, says Thitinan Pongsudhirak, director of the Institute of Security and International Studies at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. “Such a wall would allow authorities on both sides to better manage and control migration flows,” he says. “Thailand would have more interest in having such a wall to manage its southern insurgency and therefore may be expected to foot much of the bill.”

If the two sides can work out the bill, their wall would also stop a certain amount of border trade in oils and rubber, analysts say. Malaysia is Thailand’s biggest trading partner, with exports and imports worth $22 billion per year, according to online resources directory ThaiWebsites.com. But most of that trade passes through legal channels that would not be hindered by a wall. A wall might stop no one.

The Great Wall of China worked only until the 13th century when Mongols reportedly bribed a sentry to pass it. Thailand and Malaysia enforce sea borders on either side of their land border near the Indo-Chinese peninsula’s isthmus, as well, and no one’s talking about a wall there. “Migrants would still find alternative outlets by sea and through corruption, loopholes and border trade along the wall,” Pongsudhirak says. “The ultimate efficacy of such a wall is doubtful.”

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What sin has Malaysia committed against Islam? Do they support Israel? Have they set up an empire in the Middle East. Did they invade Iraq?

Walls don't work. They're silly.
 
What sin has Malaysia committed against Islam? Do they support Israel? Have they set up an empire in the Middle East. Did they invade Iraq?

Walls don't work. They're silly.
The three Thai provinces bordering Malaysia have a high Muslim population and there is a separatist movement there that wants to breakaway from mainly Buddhist Thailand. It never really gets reported much in Western media but many thousands have died.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/the-war...-and-threatens-to-spread-20150526-gha6aa.html

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Yet next door in Burma it is the Buddhists that are victimising Muslims, that doesn't get reported much either.

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that one I've heard about,,but I think it's more about political or economic power ( or something?) lol
 
Yet next door in Burma it is the Buddhists that are victimising Muslims, that doesn't get reported much either.

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Oh ya I always hear about that Buddhist terrorism...

And good. Muslims haven't done shit to stop islamic terror, and mostly support it.
 
the various walls do work, there is lots of downsides -but they do the job
LOL Oh the way in which people just bullshit themselves.

If history has shown one thing quite clearly and convincingly, that all such walls have failed.

You want to spend your money on something that will fail go ahead but don't ask me to spend my tax dollars on something for which there is a mountain of evidence that it would fail because your a coward and a bigot.

Why don't you try addressing the underlying causes of the problem instead? Or is that too much work or require to much courage and tolerance?
 
LOL Oh the way in which people just bullshit themselves.

If history has shown one thing quite clearly and convincingly, that all such walls have failed.

You want to spend your money on something that will fail go ahead but don't ask me to spend my tax dollars on something for which there is a mountain of evidence that it would fail because your a coward and a bigot.

Why don't you try addressing the underlying causes of the problem instead? Or is that too much work or require to much courage and tolerance?
fuck you for calling me a coward and a bigot. Their is nothing bigoted about maintaining borders -without them
there isn't any sovereignty - it's just a blob on the map.

The wall around San Diego has worked well - i'll look for documention if you doubt. But it's reduced illegal crossing substantially.
Likewise the West Bank Wall cutting thru Palestinian lands has brought terrorism to a virtual stop into Israel.
There are knife attacks, but the regular previous attacks are way down.

And this is not to say walls don't have problems - I personally do not think an entire physical walls the way to go -
rather I'd use a series of fences/ and towers in many place.
But physical barriers are very effective in what they do.
 
Before the fence was built, all that separated that stretch of Mexico from California was a single strand of cable that demarcated the international border.

Back then, Border Patrol agent Jim Henry says he was overwhelmed by the stream of immigrants who crossed into the United States illegally just in that sector.

"It was an area that was out of control," Henry says. "There were over 100,000 aliens crossing through this area a year."

Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing.

The first fence, 10 feet high, is made of welded metal panels. The second fence, 15 feet high, consists of steel mesh, and the top is angled inward to make it harder to climb over. Finally, in high-traffic areas, there's also a smaller chain-link fence. In between the two main fences is 150 feet of "no man's land," an area that the Border Patrol sweeps with flood lights and trucks, and soon, surveillance cameras.

"Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work," Henry says. "It is highly effective."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928
 
fuck you for calling me a coward and a bigot. Their is nothing bigoted about maintaining borders -without them
there isn't any sovereignty - it's just a blob on the map.

The wall around San Diego has worked well - i'll look for documention if you doubt. But it's reduced illegal crossing substantially.
Likewise the West Bank Wall cutting thru Palestinian lands has brought terrorism to a virtual stop into Israel.
There are knife attacks, but the regular previous attacks are way down.

And this is not to say walls don't have problems - I personally do not think an entire physical walls the way to go -
rather I'd use a series of fences/ and towers in many place.
But physical barriers are very effective in what they do.
Well you are a coward and a bigot. You're own words condemn you as such. I mean you just contradicted yourself. Some line on the ground doesn't represent our sovereignty. Your desire for a wall are based on fear of those whom are different than you (that's cowardly and bigoted at the same time).

If you don't want people to consider you a coward and a bigot then don't act like one.
 
It seems to me that the Iron Curtain and Korean DMZ served their purpose.

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and they both have something in common. They failed.

Building a wall on the Mexican border does absolutely nothing to address the root cause of the illegal immigration problem and would serve as a monument to fear, bigotry and stupidity.
 
Well you are a coward and a bigot. You're own words condemn you as such. I mean you just contradicted yourself. Some line on the ground doesn't represent our sovereignty. Your desire for a wall are based on fear of those whom are different than you (that's cowardly and bigoted at the same time).

If you don't want people to consider you a coward and a bigot then don't act like one.
you are being obtuse, or partisan or ignorant.
this is what I said: nothing about "lines on the ground"
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There is nothing bigoted about maintaining borders -without them there isn't any sovereignty - it's just a blob on the map.

If we had decent border controls there wouldn't be a need for a wall.

The Democrats ( of whom you self-titled yourself) actually blocked Kate's law -and it was a stand alone bill-
not part of other immigration packages. It was inexcusable politics for a law that had no downsides.
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and really.. go fuck yourself again for the worthless pseudo-psychology you are projecting on me.
 
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