Trump predicts he can win 95% of the black vote on re-election

Darth Hussein Omar said:
Say you lived in a place run by democrats and your schools sucked, gang bangers made your neighborhood a dangerous place even during the day, no jobs etc.

Who would you blame for it? Why would you vote democrat again when nothing ever changes?
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She does, even spits on black crack dealers in her neighbourhood.

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I don't think Trumpsters understand how offensive it is to tell a whole demographic that they don't understand "what's best for them" when it comes to voting.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think Trumpsters understand how offensive it is to tell a whole demographic that they don't understand "what's best for them" when it comes to voting.
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well it ain't the Democrats that are helping blacks either.
Blacks continuously fall behind in poverty ridden big cities -and it's not like there isn't a ton of money thrown at the problem.
And I don't blame it on "black culture" either -it's lack of economic opportunities ( decent jobs).

One can agree or disagree with Trumps emphasis on immigration -I think that is part of it but not all of it.
But like Trump also says " what do you have to lose by trying something different?"
 
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll be stuck in geo orbit until the moons gravitational pull disrupts you and sends you crashing back to Earth.
 
anatta said:
well it ain't the Democrats that are helping blacks either.
Blacks continuously fall behind in poverty ridden big cities -and it's not like there isn't a ton of money thrown at the problem.
And I don't blame it on "black culture" either -it's lack of economic opportunities ( decent jobs).

One can agree or disagree with Trumps emphasis on immigration -I think that is part of it but not all of it.
But like Trump also says " what do you have to lose by trying something different?"
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Republicans have completely ignored inner cities. Completely.

Programs like Head Start have changed many lives. Fed loans & grants for college & jobs programs are also from Democrats - not Republicans.

The biggest problem is that there is only so much that politicians can do. But the idea that someone like Trump is going to make a difference is a fallacy. Trump, as usual, is practicing the politics of division - trying to pit Latinos against African Americans.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think Trumpsters understand how offensive it is to tell a whole demographic that they don't understand "what's best for them" when it comes to voting.
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When you point out what demand policy has done for them that they see and live with every day and suggest that expecting the same policies will somehow have different results, blacks can see that they have nothing to lose trying a different way.
And that had an instant 6x increase in black support.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Well Mott, I'm not the one that's consistently voted for the party that promises but doesn't deliver.
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I don't vote for candidates on strict party lines nor do I vote based on empty promises and I sure as hell am not a sucker for a sales pitch from a salesman making promises he expects others to keep.

I vote for those I think can govern competently which the GOP with its institutional bigotry, it's self fulfilling prophecy for failed government, it's anti intellectualism, and it's blind subserviance to oligarchy over republican values, has proven spectacularly incompetent at governing. Which leaves me little, if any, choice in who to vote for.

Until the GOP rids itself of white nationalist resentments, racial bigotry, militarism and government by kleptocracy, the GOP will remain at risk of decline and dissolution and being swept away into the dustbin of history as being just another backward looking political philosophy unable to adapt to change and progress.

If this election has a mandate on anything it will be the rejection of the redneckification of this great nation.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Of course he will lol.

Here's my prediction: Obama hit that number the first time he got elected---but no one will ever hit it again.

Why? Because I think Trump is going to damage the democrats with blacks even if he doesn't get elected. Particularly, if he continues to say things like this:

“You're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs. Fifty-eight percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?” Speaking before another largely-white audience in a town whose population is 93 percent white, Trump said, “And at the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get over 95 percent of the African-American vote. I promise you. Because I will produce.”

“No group in America has been more harmed by Hillary Clinton's policies than African-Americans. No group. No group,” he said. “If Hillary Clinton's goal was to inflict pain on the African-American community, she could not have done a better job. It's a disgrace. Tonight, I'm asking for the vote of every single African-American citizen in this country who wants to see a better future.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-african-american-vote-227218

That's a stick of rhetorical dynamite thrown right in the middle of the democrat party's tent. Hey #NeverTrumpers, take notes. That is how you take down the democrats, not by playing nice with them or by running scared from the minority vote.

Yesterday this writer mused that Trump needs to take this exact message into the middle of Detroit or Philly. Turns out Newt Gingrich thinks the same thing. I'll wager a debate is going on in the Trump campaign over it.

And I'll wager Trump is all for it lol.

The 95% of the black vote is an obvious exaggeration---no one will ever hit it again. But it has an intent: the media will go out of their way to keep such dangerous rhetoric off the airwaves but the exaggeration forces them to talk about Trump---and what he said to the Michigan audience.

A mostly white audience. It will be interesting to see if Trump takes the next step.
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BS like this is why he has zero cred-NONE!!! Just trust me & I will set you free.......
 
anatta said:
well it ain't the Democrats that are helping blacks either.
Blacks continuously fall behind in poverty ridden big cities -and it's not like there isn't a ton of money thrown at the problem.
And I don't blame it on "black culture" either -it's lack of economic opportunities ( decent jobs).

One can agree or disagree with Trumps emphasis on immigration -I think that is part of it but not all of it.
But like Trump also says " what do you have to lose by trying something different?"
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One hell of a lot. You're nuts if you think that's a rhetorical question. You want to try something different? Fine give me a plan that defines what those changes are, how they will benefit this nation, what the cost will be and sweats the details on how we are going to accomplishe those goals.

Just don't try to sell me some sales pitch that some Fuehrer who knows how to win is going to make it all better cause he said so.

What have we got to lose by trying a populist appealing to division, resentment and bigotry like Trump? One hell of a lot is the answer.
 
Thing1 said:
Republicans have completely ignored inner cities. Completely.

Programs like Head Start have changed many lives. Fed loans & grants for college & jobs programs are also from Democrats - not Republicans.

The biggest problem is that there is only so much that politicians can do. But the idea that someone like Trump is going to make a difference is a fallacy. Trump, as usual, is practicing the politics of division - trying to pit Latinos against African Americans.
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Trump is not a standard GOP. He's not establishment. Do you really think loans and grants are in danger? Those are institutional -they survived Bush and they would survive Trump.
Head start is a decent programs, but programs by themselves OBVIOUSLY are not the answer.

The answer is more decent jobs. One way to get better jobs is to stop losing them to cheap overseas labor ( Trade negotiations)
or in some cases -like here in Florida- unskilled blacks are in direct competition from illegals.

So you ( not you personally) can cling to the same old same old - with the same old failed results-
or try to address the problem on a macroeconomic scale like Trump espouses. Makes no difference to me.
But if I were a black wage earner, and my job opportunities sucked -i'd be looking to try something different.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
One hell of a lot. You're nuts if you think that's a rhetorical question. You want to try something different? Fine give me a plan that defines what those changes are, how they will benefit this nation, what the cost will be and sweats the details on how we are going to accomplishe those goals.

Just don't try to sell me some sales pitch that some Fuehrer who knows how to win is going to make it all better cause he said so.

What have we got to lose by trying a populist appealing to division, resentment and bigotry like Trump? One hell of a lot is the answer.
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Inner city Blacks are getting nowhere. They are left behind.
If you get a good education AND economic opportunities -that's how you get out of the ghetto.
You need both. Not just "programs" "loan" and education -you need job opportunities.

forget all the rhetoric -rhetoric by Clinton or Trump doesn't equa lmoney in your pocket.

So stick with the same failures in advancement ,or try something that increases wealth and opportunity.

He's mentioned a few ways to improve those- 1 basic way is to stop losing assembly type jobs/manufacturer to over seas/Mexico.
What does Clinton offer? More redistribution of wealth but not GDP growth.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Say you lived in a place run by democrats and your schools sucked, gang bangers made your neighborhood a dangerous place even during the day, no jobs etc.

Who would you blame for it? Why would you vote democrat again when nothing ever changes?
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You guys always bring up big cities run by Dems as examples of why blacks don't do well and can't get ahead. Tell me, how would a Trump presidency affect how people vote on the local level?
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think Trumpsters understand how offensive it is to tell a whole demographic that they don't understand "what's best for them" when it comes to voting.
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Well, things don't ever have to change for blacks, either. They seem eager to exercise that as an option. Douchebag Donald will likely follow the leftist path, so, no one should be holding their breath that he'll do anything to make things better.
 
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