Can Donald Trump win? YES

Jarod

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Can Trump still win?
Yes!

In the world of possibilities Trump can absolutely turn this around and win, is it unlikely from today’s view point…. Yes, but can it be done, Absolutely.
If Trump were a normal candidate and this was an average year for presidential elections, it would be clear that he could still win, but it would be a more enthusiastic unlikely rather than a simple unlikely. This is not a normal election year and this is not an average presidential election. To some extent no presidential elections are average, but this year, because of Trump himself, this election is anything but average.

Trump has several things going for him that make the unlikelihood of a turnaround something we should question. Trump has the enthusiasm factor built in, he has huge crowds of excited people who come out to see him speak, If that turns into enthusiastic people who come out to vote for him, it just might make up for being a point or two down in the polls. Hillary does not have the same enthusiasm among her supporters or the same size of crowds at her speeches. The difference is however, according to almost all polls, she does have more people planning to vote for her. Excitement and enthusiasm can’t beat numbers in the end. Trump will have to increase his numbers.

Trump, despite saying he won’t, has begun to pivot. It’s been over a week since he has made a major mistake, just look at the change in tone on his Twitter Account if you don’t believe me. That he has already started the famous pivot, no matter how much he denies having done so is clear to the attentive observer. Trump's new team might be diehard and mercurial, but they know how to be mercurial in a more positive way. Thus far the voters have not been forced to make a decision on Hillary Clinton, it’s almost all been about Trump’s temperament. If that remains the central focus of the next 83 days, Trump will lose. Voters will start paying more attention in late September and October, winning news cycles in late October can mean more to a campaign than having won more news cycles in August. If the focus of the campaign shifts to Hillary Clinton and the scandal dust that the Trump campaign can kick up, Trump has a chance at persuading candidates who are currently reluctantly planning to vote for her.

Finally, the media loves a comeback story. Despite the constant claim of an unfair and bias media, its still more about making money. Declaring a Trump loss in August that is followed by Trumps continual loss does not excite viewers. There is a lot of media money to be made and several careers to be made in the next two months if this is an exciting campaign that brings in viewers. I have never been a huge believer that the media has an agenda that pushes one candidate over another, but I do believe they push drama over less drama. A Trump comeback would be dramatic.

Don’t get me wrong, today’s outlook is gloomy for Donald Trump and his team, but a turnaround and a win are not out of the question, especially this year.

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I wouldn't describe the polls as "razor thin," but it does surprise me that all of them are not double-digits. Trump has completely self-destructed for almost a month. It really speaks to how polarizing Hillary is that so many people are still saying that they'll vote for him.

He could win. The ONLY silver lining w/ him winning is that some of the more vocal Trump supporters will be forever marginalized once he actually takes office. He'll also destroy the GOP as a party, once & for all, though I don't personally see that as a positive.
 
^ i'd love to see the corrupted establishment oligarchs be destroyed. They represent no one but their plutocratic orbit.
The only real payoff to a Trump presidency -like a sanders one -would be so called "re-alignment"..

The remote bureaucrats might even burp.
 
^ i'd love to see the corrupted establishment oligarchs be destroyed. They represent no one but their plutocratic orbit.
The only real payoff to a Trump presidency -like a sanders one -would be so called "re-alignment"..

The remote bureaucrats might even burp.

Do you think a Trump presidency would cause that? I don't.
 
The LA Times poll has always been tight. They use a different methodology.

Now, it might end up being the correct methodology - but the chances are that it's the outlier, since the other polls all show higher leads.
 
The LA Times poll has always been tight. They use a different methodology.

Now, it might end up being the correct methodology - but the chances are that it's the outlier, since the other polls all show higher leads.

The Trumpovites say the polls don't matter until one breaks a point th their favor... then that one poll matters, but only the "trend" not the actual number!
 
Do you think a Trump presidency would cause that? I don't.
Hard to say. Getting the big donor money out of politics has to be the main goal. It's ultra-corruption at work.
Look at the Clinton Foundation-a decent useful charity infected with "pay to play"

Look at legislation virtually bought and sold by big money donors. Anything that disturbs that cozy relationship should be the goal
of regular Americans who can' afford their own lobbiests
 
Hard to say. Getting the big donor money out of politics has to be the main goal. It's ultra-corruption at work.
Look at the Clinton Foundation-a decent useful charity infected with "pay to play"

Look at legislation virtually bought and sold by big money donors. Anything that disturbs that cozy relationship should be the goal
of regular Americans who can' afford their own lobbiests

Anything?
 
Pay to play is and has been the norm for 100's of years. You don't think Trump has been as involved as Clinton?? At least with Clinton the profits go to charity instead of Trumps pockets.
 
Anything?

it's the singular most pressing issue for reform.
we need public financing of elections, absent Constitutional amendment getting rid of Citizen's United.
Absent either of those ( which still leaves Revolving Door governing) -the best thing I can think of is ridding entrenched special interests.
 
Pay to play is and has been the norm for 100's of years. You don't think Trump has been as involved as Clinton?? At least with Clinton the profits go to charity instead of Trumps pockets.
lobbying is one thing -"Pay to play" is corruption of officials ( influence buying)
 
it's the singular most pressing issue for reform.
we need public financing of elections, absent Constitutional amendment getting rid of Citizen's United.
Absent either of those ( which still leaves Revolving Door governing) -the best thing I can think of is ridding entrenched special interests.

I agree
 
lobbying is one thing -"Pay to play" is corruption of officials ( influence buying)

The line is murky, but even if its two different things, I think Trump is as culpable as Clinton. At least with Clinton a lot of it goes to charity, with Trump it almost all goes to his pocket.
 
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