Are Cons Coming to Terms With Racism in American Policing?

dnsmith1935 said:
Most like their jobs, accept the danger and do their jobs well. .5% being rogue is a minor minute issue. I guess you scream for the police if one out of 1,000 care speeds on your block. It is the same thing.
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Most vs .5% :rolleyes:

Yea it's minor, minor for you, you aint being shot, having shit planted on you, lied about & harassed... The fact that you even discount it says volumes about you sir..

Now your turn, you go head & call me a cop hater:whoa:
 
cawacko said:
In both these cases I'm waiting to hear all the details because we really don't have a full picture of what happened. In LA it was reported someone was waving a gun around. Was it actually this guy? If it was him was he really waving it around dangerously? Knowing helps to understand the cops mindset at the time.

From the video I don't think the guy could reach his gun as he looked pinned down but it's always easier to judge in hindsight and from the safety of my living room couch.
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Waving a gun around irresponsibly is dangerous. And you damned sure don't know anyone's mindset but your owned, er, many you don't even know that. I think you missed some of the videos or you would not be prejudging the cop.
 
dnsmith1935 said:
I didn't say that. your post is a lie. I am a fan of the 2nd amendment and there are law abiding gun owners and criminals. The police were called to get stop a person from waving an illegal gun. So you hate police for doing their job.
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How did they, or you know it was illegal??

Here is my guess->
 
dnsmith1935 said:
Waving a gun around irresponsibly is dangerous. And you damned sure don't know anyone's mindset but your owned, er, many you don't even know that. I think you missed some of the videos or you would not be prejudging the cop.
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You saw video of the guy waving a gun?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
He's right though. You're being tone deaf. No one is saying that isn't a problem either. No one is condemning white society or police. We are recognizing a problem that needs to be fixed. The lessons learned to be communicated to all.

No one is also saying that there are not cultural or socio-economic issues that need to be addressed too. Poverty has rules all its own. If you know what I mean?

I see the problem as economic and acculturation. That is, it's been going on a long time and we're just noticing it due to the ubiquitous smart phone and social media.
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One, I agree with much of what you say, and the acculturation or assimilation is the biggest solution in a bag with a lot of little ones. It is the ravenous believe that one can succeed by going against main stream society. Some have, but most fail and those who do succeed eventually do assimilate because it is better for them and their families. I served with units with a higher percentage of blacks than our general population. We all did the same work, we all made the same pay for the same level of job and all groups succeeded or failed based on their ability to absorb the cultures of others without constant dissension.

When people pre judge, they are contributing to the dissension. That is the major point I have preached through this entire thread.
 
Thing1 said:
I'm suggesting that Bill O'Reilly is the biggest whiner about the war on xmas, and he's white.
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Then could you please point out where you mentioned Bill O'Reilly, regarding Hispanics and Christmas; unless you expected people to read your mind?
 
Thing1 said:
Why is it demonizing every cop to address what has been in many cases systemic racism?

They were just having a great conversation about it on Fox. It goes well beyond these highly publicized cases; drugs & weapons planted on suspects, unlawful searches, etc.

Are people just supposed to shut up about it & take it? Give me a break. People are just asking for dialogue.
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It is wrong to demonize all the police for the potential .5% who are the problems? If people want to dialogue, they should not prejudge anything. No one is asking anyone to shut up and take it. If they did I would have no one with which to have dialogue.
 
Thing1 said:
I can tell USF is bored tonight. Just trying to pick little fights.

What an effing imbecile.
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Let me make sure I understand your form of logic.
In a discussion of Hispanics possibly becoming a majority by 2060. you made the following comment:

Thing1 said:
I know that whites will whine enthusiastically as a minority. Many already do (the war on Christmas!!!)
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And me questioning the intent of your comment, makes it appear as if I'm "trying to pick a fight"?

Are you suggesting that your comments should just be ignored, as having no substance, until you voluntarily explain yourself?
 
dnsmith1935 said:
So you want to railroad the cops like judge and jury BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW THE WHOLE STORY? So nice of you to knee jerk justice like the hanging judge of old west fame? I'm glad you aren't on the jury with a preconception of what really happened.
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This became more evident with liberal responses to Zimmerman, then Wilson, then Freddie Gray, and just continues.

It would seem that liberals intend to continue down this road, until they can finally get the thrown spaghetti to stick to the wall.
 
dnsmith1935 said:
I don't see what I want. A man was killed, but I don't want the man who killed him prejudged either. Can't you understand that simple fact?
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Sure, I understand it... We are not a jury, merely some folks on this board discussing our opinions.. No one is sent to jail nor set free as a result~tis nothing more, tis nothing less.. You have a great night..
 
Bill said:
Good points..

Odd that now that "the ppl" have some means to observe what the "evil .00005%":rolleyes: is doing, we see this "evil .00005%" doing it almost everyday.. Just a coincidence I guess, kinda like those damn body cams that fall off when someone ends up shot or dead............:palm:
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Then why aren't people busy recording and having the MSM showing the videos of the good behavior?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Let me make sure I understand your form of logic.
In a discussion of Hispanics possibly becoming a majority by 2060. you made the following comment:



And me questioning the intent of your comment, makes it appear as if I'm "trying to pick a fight"?

Are you suggesting that your comments should just be ignored, as having no substance, until you voluntarily explain yourself?
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Some of the radicals on the forum only want agreement.
 
dnsmith1935 said:
They are n ot the kind of juicy stories some people just wait for such a minority of bad news to gloat.
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And that's fucking exactly why.
Heaven forbid that people and the MSM decided to look at, recognize, and promote the positive aspects of life; but instead the "masses" want their bread and circuses and then want to use isolated incidents to make it appear that its the norm, instead of the exception.

Gee, I wonder what would happen if people made the decisions to applaud the good things and instead of focusing on the bad; worked together to prop each other up instead of trying to tear everyone else down.

Now I'm pretty pragmatic, when it comes to many aspects of life; but that doesn't mean I'm heartless, it just means I don't REACT emotionally when bad things happen.
Just think how much could be accomplished, if instead of pointing fingers and calling others racists, bigots, etc., we actually worked towards improving negative behavior; but I don't see it happening due to the FACT that way too many people have to have the divisions, whether it's because it fits their agenda or they're too self-centered to only thing about their wants.

This nation dropped everything and pulled together during WW II and accomplished goals that a lot of people thought were impossible to achieve.
Is it going to take a direct attack on the US for people to pull their heads out of their asses and once again strive to reach for the stars (metaphorically); but from what I read and hear, I doubt that such an event would even cause cooperation to occur.

To prove my point, let's see how many JPP posters are now going to try and twist what I've said, to fit their OWN agendas.

I'm sure I've left out some points and maybe they can be discussed openly.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Let me make sure I understand your form of logic.
In a discussion of Hispanics possibly becoming a majority by 2060. you made the following comment:

And me questioning the intent of your comment, makes it appear as if I'm "trying to pick a fight"?

Are you suggesting that your comments should just be ignored, as having no substance, until you voluntarily explain yourself?
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Like I pointed out to Christie, progressives can barely contain their glee at the prospect of whites becoming a minority.

Thing doesn't even try to contain it lol. You have to wonder what's behind it. You have to surmise it's some sort of white guilt thing.

It's loony.
 
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