Are Cons Coming to Terms With Racism in American Policing?

Thing1 said:
They're saying that black lives matter. They're not saying that whites & cops are ALWAYS the problem.

You really need to open up your ears. It's embarrassing hearing you talk on this subject - like how you didn't know there was a coalition for Libya, but felt comfortable talking about Libya.
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I also heard them say something about pigs in a blanket. Should I close my ears to that?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Try living in a black community and associating with your neighbors and integrating into that community?

I did my undergrad at Wright State in Dayton. I spent my first two years at the Lake Campus and the last two years in Dayton. I first moved into small apartment with a friend on the east side in the urban hillbilly part of town cause it was closer to school. We bailed after three months. He moved to Fairborn (he had more money) and I moved into a nice boarding room on the west side of town that was about 75% black. Never had a problem there. About a year later I started working at a blood plasma center. Most of my coworkers were black. Dated about as many black girls as white. I learned a lot.

I think what I learned the most is that you can enjoy and appreciate and participate in another culture without it threatening your identity. Most people like it when you show them you are interested in them. I also learned that I could love a woman of a different race. Trust me, that didn't suck!! :)
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I've had and have black friends all my life [white conservatives always get in trouble when they say that lol]; black co-workers etc. As a HS and college athlete I had plenty of opportunities to integrate and I/we did. Actually, athletics is a great way to do that.

In my experience you know both parties are integrated when you can joke about your differences.

So, I have those bases covered. But shouldn't blacks also try and share in the white experience? And especially the cop experience?
 
Lapdoggy Hack Hussein said:
I've had and have black friends all my life [white conservatives always get in trouble when they say that lol]; black co-workers etc. As a HS and college athlete I had plenty of opportunities to integrate and I/we did. Actually, athletics is a great way to do that. In my experience you know both parties are integrated when you can joke about your differences.
So, I have those bases covered. But shouldn't blacks also try and share in the white experience? And especially the cop experience?
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Cool story, lapdoggy. :thumbsup:
 
cawacko said:
This is random but a few weeks back several Oakland police officers got busted for sending racist texts. They didn't say the officers race at first but I think most probably thought like I did that it was white officers. Turned out in this case the officers who sent the racist texts were black.

They haven't said what was stated in the texts but the event itself turned out different than expected.
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This brings up an interesting angle in my mind.

Is it possible that what's being mistook for racism is actually cops being too hyped up on adrenaline in certain instances? What if the racist joke texters are in the group that's least likely to discharge their weapon inappropriately?

I'm not saying there are because there's no way to know. In the study I cited yesterday it was found that white cops had the lowest incidence of threat fail [where the threat is misinterpreted] in encounters with blacks.

My point is racism or racist motives on the part of cops should be the conclusion of last resort and only when all other factors are ruled out; but it's treated like an operating assumption but some parties.

In other words, when the cop is white and the victim is black, that's prima facie evidence of racism in their view.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
This brings up an interesting angle in my mind. Is it possible that what's being mistook for racism is actually cops being too hyped up on adrenaline in certain instances? What if the racist joke texters are in the group that's least likely to discharge their weapon inappropriately? I'm not saying there are because there's no way to know. In the study I cited yesterday it was found that white cops had a lower incidence of threat fail [where the threat is misinterpreted] in encounters with blacks. My point is racism or racist motives on the part of cops should be the conclusion of last resort and only when all other factors are ruled out; but it's treated like an operating assumption but some parties. In other words, when the cop is white and the victim is black, that's prima facie evidence of racism in their view.
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In the study you'd never seen until I found it and posted the link, the authors clearly said

"However, given our small sample of TPFs, we caution against overconfidence in this finding."

http://ric-zai-inc.com/Publications/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Arf, arf, bad doggy! Shame!
 
Legion Troll said:
In the study you'd never seen until I found it and posted the link, the authors clearly said

"However, given our small sample of TPFs, we caution against overconfidence in this finding."

http://ric-zai-inc.com/Publications/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Arf, arf, bad doggy! Shame!
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You really hate that study, don't you, lol.
 
Thing1 said:
You can focus on that kind of extremist garbage w/ any group.

If you're determined not to listen, just say that you're determined not to listen.
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You gave them a pass on it. That's cool. I'll remember that for future reference.

Listen? How can I escape from listening? Have they abandoned the discredited 'hands up don't shoot' yet?

If not, why should I go out of my way to listen to them, when they're part of the problem?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You gave them a pass on it. That's cool. I'll remember that for future reference.

Listen? How can I escape from listening? Have they abandoned the discredited 'hands up don't shoot' yet?

If not, why should I go out of my way to listen to them, when they're part of the problem?
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Where the fuck did I give them a pass on it?

You're really a piece of work. Keep thinking that racism is over because black athletes get paid a lot. What a fucking moron you are.
 
Thing1 said:
Where the fuck did I give them a pass on it?

You're really a piece of work. Keep thinking that racism is over because black athletes get paid a lot. What a fucking moron you are.
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You just can't keep from putting words in my mouth. Where did I say racism is over? And don't give me 'oh but you imply it Darth, crap.

And yes, you sloughed off 'pigs in a blanket' in a manner you never would a solitary Confederate flag at a Tea Party rally, so you can save the debate board posturing for someone who will buy it.
 
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