Are Cons Coming to Terms With Racism in American Policing?

Mott the Hoople said:
So the fact that investigations, by any objective measure, demonstrated a culture of corruption where the local police department was exploiting the community they served for cash to run their department didn't have a thing to do with that? People in a community normally don't riot when a criminal gets shot. Do you completely lack the imagination to see what it would be like to live I such a community where the police didn't protect you but preyed upon you for money? How an incident like that could be the spark to light an even bigger fire?
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My point had more to do with avoiding certain situations with cops. I wouldn't bum rush a cop under any circumstances.
 
Legion Troll said:
You never saw this report until I posted the link, lapdoggy.

You don't understand what the big words mean without Allen B. West to guide you, do you, lol?

You "forgot" this little detail: "However, given our small sample of TPFs, we caution against overconfidence in this finding."

http://ric-zai-inc.com/Publications/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Arf, arf, good doggy!
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So your confidence level in this report indicates that white officers' racial perceptions in fatal police encounters has no variance from that of minority officers.

Good to know.

Let your president know.
 
Taft2016 said:
So your confidence level in this report indicates that white officers' racial perceptions in fatal police encounters has no variance from that of minority officers. Good to know. Let your president know.
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It's not my confidence level that I quoted, Officer.

It is the authors of the study who said that. Did Allen B. West forget to include that little tidbit in your email blast?

Sad!

Maybe you should tell your president.
 
Taft2016 said:
So your confidence level in this report indicates that white officers' racial perceptions in fatal police encounters has no variance from that of minority officers.

Good to know.

Let your president know.
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Can't let facts stand in the way of the narrative lol.
 
Legion Troll said:
It's not my confidence level that I quoted, Officer.

It is the authors of the study who said that. Did Allen B. West forget to include that little tidbit in your email blast?

Sad!

Maybe you should tell your president.
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Very well then. Perhaps you'd be so kind to link us up to a study demonstrating the racial bias your president tells us exists in policing? Particularly in regards to use of deadly physical force?
 
Taft2016 said:
Very well then. Perhaps you'd be so kind to link us up to a study demonstrating the racial bias your president tells us exists in policing? Particularly in regards to use of deadly physical force?
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You're completely tone deaf to what is going on. It was being discussed on another thread, but what Mark Fuhrman was recorded as saying in the OJ trial was no surprise to the black community. They have heard that kind of speech from cops for years. They've been pulled over for no reason. They've been handcuffed for no reason. I watched a segment on "stop & frisk" in the Bronx recently, and a regular 9-5 working man broke down & cried talking about how he had lost count of the # of times he was frisked for just walking down the street.

If you do NOT think there are racial issues involved with policing, I don't know what to tell you. It's embarrassing. It's time that people like you opened up your ears, and actually listened. There is not something inherent in being African American that creates delusional ideas about this. There is something going on.
 
Thing1 said:
You're completely tone deaf to what is going on. It was being discussed on another thread, but what Mark Fuhrman was recorded as saying in the OJ trial was no surprise to the black community. They have heard that kind of speech from cops for years. They've been pulled over for no reason. They've been handcuffed for no reason. I watched a segment on "stop & frisk" in the Bronx recently, and a regular 9-5 working man broke down & cried talking about how he had lost count of the # of times he was frisked for just walking down the street.

If you do NOT think there are racial issues involved with policing, I don't know what to tell you. It's embarrassing. It's time that people like you opened up your ears, and actually listened. There is not something inherent in being African American that creates delusional ideas about this. There is something going on.
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Rant vs statistics.
 
Taft2016 said:
Very well then. Perhaps you'd be so kind to link us up to a study demonstrating the racial bias your president tells us exists in policing? Particularly in regards to use of deadly physical force?
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My president, Officer?

Who's that? Don't you live in the USA?
 
Thing1 said:
You're completely tone deaf to what is going on. It was being discussed on another thread, but what Mark Fuhrman was recorded as saying in the OJ trial was no surprise to the black community.
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You mean a quarter of a century ago?

Why not provide the transcripts of a conversation between Huey Long and Theodore Bilbo?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Rant vs statistics.
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That's a truly pathetic answer, Darth. Are you really so blind to what goes on in the black community? Seriously?

So much harassment doesn't show up in "stats." Are you seriously contending that blacks are making this up - that this is just delusional on their part?

Really sad. I just feel bad for you, more than anything. Such epic ignorance.
 
Thing1 said:
That's a truly pathetic answer, Darth. Are you really so blind to what goes on in the black community? Seriously?

So much harassment doesn't show up in "stats." Are you seriously contending that blacks are making this up - that this is just delusional on their part?

Really sad. I just feel bad for you, more than anything. Such epic ignorance.
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Epic indeed.

I suggest every Monday you visit the Chicago Sun's website and view Chicago's carnage of the previous weekend.

Then come back here and explain to us how the police are the problem in the black community.
 
Taft2016 said:
Epic indeed.

I suggest every Monday you visit the Chicago Sun's website and view Chicago's carnage of the previous weekend.

Then come back here and explain to us how the police are the problem in the black community.
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Lazy, irrelevant argument. Who ever said that the police were the ONLY problem in the black community? Can you show me where I said that, exactly?
 
I'll explain two fundamental schools of policing: proactive and reactive.

Reactive policing is where the police show up after an incident, take a report, and refer it to detectives to see if they can make an arrest. As crime rises, and the detectives' workload becomes overbearing, it becomes increasingly unlikely an arrest will ever be made. So criminals become bolder and crime soars.

Proactive policing is where the police try to stop crime before it happens. This involves patrol officers actively engaging the public, which sometimes can be perceived as harassment. But over the past 2 decades it has drastically reduced crime nationwide.

Reactive policing is a helluva lot easier for the police to do. Fill out a piece of paper and off you go back to your coffee.

Proactive policing doesn't have nearly as much coffee and involves a lot more work and is a lot more hazardous.

It's all very simple; communities just need to tell their elected officials they want reactive instead of proactive policing.

But they won't because that's not what they want. They've lived through reactive policing before. They want the police to "harass" people, just not them, because then that would be "racism."

And the poor cops are wedged in between this illogic between their local governments and the communities.
 
Thing1 said:
Lazy, irrelevant argument. Who ever said that the police were the ONLY problem in the black community? Can you show me where I said that, exactly?
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Sure, as soon as you can show me where I said you said they were the "only" problem.
 
Taft2016 said:
Epic indeed.

I suggest every Monday you visit the Chicago Sun's website and view Chicago's carnage of the previous weekend.

Then come back here and explain to us how the police are the problem in the black community.
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Using "the" instead of "a" = saying that they're the only problem.

Words. They mean things.
 
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