Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0ZL2S6

Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton widened her lead over likely Republican nominee Donald Trump to 13 percentage points in a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.

The July 1-5 poll included responses gathered mostly over the holiday weekend, before the Federal Bureau of Investigation recommended on Tuesday that no criminal charges be filed against Clinton over her use of private email servers and what it called her "extremely careless" handling of classified information while she was U.S. secretary of state.
The presumptive Democratic nominee led Trump, a New York businessman, by 9 percentage points in a previous Reuters/Ipsos poll that ran from June 27 to July 1.


Tuesday's poll showed that 46 percent of likely voters supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump. Twenty-two percent said they would not support either candidate for the Nov. 8 election.


Throughout the campaign, Clinton has been dogged by her use of a personal email server during her years as the nation's top diplomat. Over the past several months, she has handed over thousands of pages of emails to investigators and responded to a number of government inquiries.


Clinton has repeatedly said she never sent or received classified documents on her private servers, yet the public appears distrustful of her, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling. In early May, 63 percent of Americans, including 36 percent of Democrats, said they did not believe Clinton was "honest and truthful."
But Clinton has led Trump most of the year among likely voters. Since mid-May, she has maintained a relatively consistent level of support among likely voters, while Trump's popularity has eroded as his campaign wrestled with a variety of issues.


Republican leaders distanced themselves from Trump after he suggested a federal judge was biased because of his Hispanic heritage and after he doubled down on a pledge to block Muslims from entering the country. On Tuesday, U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan criticized a tweet posted by Trump over the weekend that many deemed to be anti-Semitic.


Trump's level of support among likely voters was about 10 points below what 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney received in early July 2012.
Among Clinton's supporters, nearly half said they were backing her because "I don't want Donald Trump to win." A further 39 percent said they "agree with her positions," and about 13 percent said they "like her personally."


The online national poll of 1,441 American adults had a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points.
 
I won't sugarcoat the week's biggest news: Hillary Clinton's paranoia and arrogance led her not only to being "extremely careless" in her handling of sensitive, classified information via email while she was secretary of state, according to the FBI, but also to lying to the public about it as she went along.

By compounding her own unforced error, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee reinforced the doubts many voters have about her judgment and trustworthiness.

Bad, no question. But not "That does it! I'm voting instead for Donald Trump!" bad. Not even close.

As conservative social media vibrated with indignation Tuesday after FBI Director James Comey laid out the conclusion of his agency's investigation into Clinton's use of email, satirist Dave Weasel tweeted, "Hillary can hide emails, burn down an Ethiopian village, sacrifice 3 virgins to Kali and still have my vote because she's not Trump."

An exaggeration? I put the question to Clinton supporters in my Facebook family: What, if any, are the limits on your determination to vote for her over Trump?

Some answers:

Elliot Tarabour: "She could pick Sarah Palin as her running mate and I would still vote for her."

Neil Steinberg: "She could annex the Sudetenland and I'd still support her over Trump."


Mark Hersch: "If Hillary was in prison for murdering Vince Foster to cover-up her involvement in Whitewater while she was defrauding the Rose Law Firm and pocketing millions from illegally steering money from her Wall Street speeches to the Clinton Foundation, I still wouldn't vote for Donald Trump."

Rick Mosher: "She could vote for Trump, and I'd still vote for her."

Tim Ruddell: "She'd need to murder (at least) one of my immediate family members before I'd consider Trump over her."

Frank Morreale: "She could drop dead and I would vote for her over the vile alternative to her corpse."

Matt Brennan: "She could walk down 5th Avenue and shoot someone, and I'd still vote for her."

Brennan is alluding to the famous — and, it seems, true — declaration Trump made at an Iowa campaign rally in January, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose voters."

And you get the idea, summed up succinctly by Sunny Danceart Chapman: "Nothing," she wrote. "There is nothing she could do that would convince me to vote for Trump."

That's not the risk. The risk is that supporters go from "yes" to "meh," and decide to stay home on Nov. 8. "Well, I was going to vote for Hillary," said an unidentified woman interviewed by NBC News on Wednesday in Atlantic City. "Now I don't even know if I'm going to vote in this election."

And that Tuesday's news will inspire otherwise disgusted, disillusioned moderate Republican voters to turn out for Trump.

Clinton will probably get through this, but if she has any plans to shoot people on major thoroughfares or conduct human sacrifices in honor of the goddess of time and death, she'd be wise to put them on hold.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...dal-zorn-perspec-0708-md-20160707-column.html
 
The bigger news is Trump being at 33%.

It's rare to see him break 40% in any national poll. But the # seems to be dropping overall. 33% is extraordinarily bad at this stage.

What a stupid choice for the GOP.
 
The bigger news is Trump being at 33%.

It's rare to see him break 40% in any national poll. But the # seems to be dropping overall. 33% is extraordinarily bad at this stage.

What a stupid choice for the GOP.
Utter stupid
 
Johnson & Stein could combine to go to double figures

Third party candidates often poll higher than they actually receive on election day. It's possible though with such strong dislike of Clinton and Trump that they could come close (to double figures).
 
Third party candidates often poll higher than they actually receive on election day. It's possible though with such strong dislike of Clinton and Trump that they could come close (to double figures).
it's not impossible with the loathing from the electorate towards these chacaters
 
Okay, I guess we will have to be bombarded with polls every week that ultimately mean nothing come this fall.

Enjoy posting things that mean nothing.
 
Hillary's going to be like her husband and win without being able to get 50%.

Given how well third parties are doing this time around that's likely. These are two way polls, though, the reason she's not get above 45% is all the don't knows. Here are three way polls with Gary Johnson:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...lection_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5949.html

Also here's polls with johnson and stein:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html
 
Third party candidates often poll higher than they actually receive on election day. It's possible though with such strong dislike of Clinton and Trump that they could come close (to double figures).

Really? I think it's usually the opposite, polls often overestimate their support. Like there were polls with Johnson up to 3-4%, he ultimately only got 1%. That's why they frequently leave third party candidates out, they're just hard to poll. The only reason they're being talked about this time is that they're finally adding up to some significant percentages.
 
Okay, I guess we will have to be bombarded with polls every week that ultimately mean nothing come this fall.

Enjoy posting things that mean nothing.

Wouldn't normally do this, I only trust the polling average. But if ILA's going to post every poll that shows Trump ahead, I'm going to do this. This is not even really a proportional response, if I posted every single poll that had Hillary ahead (like ILA is doing the opposite of), it would flood the entire forum.
 
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