Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll

The Blood of Angry Men said:
Really? I think it's usually the opposite, polls often overestimate their support. Like there were polls with Johnson up to 3-4%, he ultimately only got 1%. That's why they frequently leave third party candidates out, they're just hard to poll. The only reason they're being talked about this time is that they're finally adding up to some significant percentages.
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Isn't that what I was saying? In the (pre-election) polls third party candidates often do better than the votes they actually get on election day.
 
Thing1 said:
The bigger news is Trump being at 33%.

It's rare to see him break 40% in any national poll. But the # seems to be dropping overall. 33% is extraordinarily bad at this stage.

What a stupid choice for the GOP.
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I am still amazed that he is at 33%. Are a third of America really that racist xenophobic and stupid?
 
cawacko said:
Isn't that what I was saying? In the (pre-election) polls third party candidates often do better than the votes they actually get on election day.
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Ah OK. Somehow I entirely reversed your meaning.

Anyway, Johnson is doing a lot better now in polls than he did in polls last time, which does indicate some genuine shift towards him. That said I wouldn't be surprised if he ultimately gets half or less of what he's polling at. 3-4% would be historic for a Libertarian candidate, though.
 
Thing1 said:
The bigger news is Trump being at 33%.

It's rare to see him break 40% in any national poll. But the # seems to be dropping overall. 33% is extraordinarily bad at this stage.

What a stupid choice for the GOP.
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Well, there's still Cleveland, dammit! :rant:
 
I have this tremendous headache. And I'm not sure if it's a tension headache from business stuff (I had to do a detailed presentation with graphics on my computer today), or if it's yurt's squeaking, or if it's picturing two middle-aged men in a pickup truck with a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker on one side and a "grass gas or ass nobody rides for free" on the other. But something is messing with my head.
 
The Blood of Angry Men said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0ZL2S6

Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton widened her lead over likely Republican nominee Donald Trump to 13 percentage points in a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.

The July 1-5 poll included responses gathered mostly over the holiday weekend, before the Federal Bureau of Investigation recommended on Tuesday that no criminal charges be filed against Clinton over her use of private email servers and what it called her "extremely careless" handling of classified information while she was U.S. secretary of state.
The presumptive Democratic nominee led Trump, a New York businessman, by 9 percentage points in a previous Reuters/Ipsos poll that ran from June 27 to July 1.


Tuesday's poll showed that 46 percent of likely voters supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump. Twenty-two percent said they would not support either candidate for the Nov. 8 election.


Throughout the campaign, Clinton has been dogged by her use of a personal email server during her years as the nation's top diplomat. Over the past several months, she has handed over thousands of pages of emails to investigators and responded to a number of government inquiries.


Clinton has repeatedly said she never sent or received classified documents on her private servers, yet the public appears distrustful of her, according to Reuters/Ipsos polling. In early May, 63 percent of Americans, including 36 percent of Democrats, said they did not believe Clinton was "honest and truthful."
But Clinton has led Trump most of the year among likely voters. Since mid-May, she has maintained a relatively consistent level of support among likely voters, while Trump's popularity has eroded as his campaign wrestled with a variety of issues.


Republican leaders distanced themselves from Trump after he suggested a federal judge was biased because of his Hispanic heritage and after he doubled down on a pledge to block Muslims from entering the country. On Tuesday, U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan criticized a tweet posted by Trump over the weekend that many deemed to be anti-Semitic.


Trump's level of support among likely voters was about 10 points below what 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney received in early July 2012.
Among Clinton's supporters, nearly half said they were backing her because "I don't want Donald Trump to win." A further 39 percent said they "agree with her positions," and about 13 percent said they "like her personally."


The online national poll of 1,441 American adults had a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points.
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odd.....if she leads by 13 in the Reuters Ipsos poll for July 1-5, why does the Reuters Ipsos poll for July 1-5 show her leading by 11?.....
http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=15725
 
Darla said:
I have this tremendous headache. And I'm not sure if it's a tension headache from business stuff (I had to do a detailed presentation with graphics on my computer today), or if it's yurt's squeaking, or if it's picturing two middle-aged men in a pickup truck with a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker on one side and a "grass gas or ass nobody rides for free" on the other. But something is messing with my head.
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It's Grind.
 
Darla said:
I have this tremendous headache. And I'm not sure if it's a tension headache from business stuff (I had to do a detailed presentation with graphics on my computer today), or if it's yurt's squeaking, or if it's picturing two middle-aged men in a pickup truck with a "no fat chicks" bumper sticker on one side and a "grass gas or ass nobody rides for free" on the other. But something is messing with my head.
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Wow, Yurt again.

LOL
 
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