Gays coming over to the Dark Side on guns

Thing1 said:
You want to talk bullshit? Look at the post above.

Give me the %. What is the % of anyone in America getting killed by a Muslim?

Is it enough to cause the hysteria that you're trying to perpetuate?

Neat goalpost shift on your part. I admire your determination to ignore logic.
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Facts and statistics mean nothing to cons.

"As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
 
Thing1 said:
I'm not the one generalizing about 1 billion + people, and then telling anyone who objects that they're just being "pc."

You support Trump. That's all anyone needs to know, ever.
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Omg. Radical Islam as a term, makes a distinction between radical and non-radical Muslims: moderate Muslims don't adhere to it and *radical* Muslims do. How is it even possible to paint Muslims with a broad brush when you make that distinction?
 
christiefan915 said:
Facts and statistics mean nothing to cons.

"As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
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Exactly!

And even those #'s are extremely small, for both groups. I'm infinitely more concerned about a drunk driver when I go out tonight than either Muslims or right-wing extremists.

It's all such irrational hysteria. All this guy in Orlando had to do is make a call a few minutes into his attack & say it was for ISIS, and we'll end up spending hundreds of millions combating "Islamic extremism."
 
Thing1 said:
Do you think it makes us safe to have people carrying guns in bars?
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if you liberals prioritized gays over muslims then they wouldnt need to buy guns.

Unfortunately they saw first hand the Democrat Hierarchy of Victimization and here we are.
 
christiefan915 said:
Facts and statistics mean nothing to cons.

"As UNC Professor Charles Kurzman and Duke Professor David Schanzer explained last June in the New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks “accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.” Meanwhile, “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities.”
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holy crap! Do you realize how bad this is? Muslims account for 1% of the total US population. That population got you 50 casualties due to muslim terrorism. "Right wing terrorism" caused you 254 casualties. Too be at all proportional your numbers have to show that the right wing only account for 5% of the population! Anyone can tell you that its way more than that! According to the studies I could find 26% of the population is registered republicans while 42% are registered republican.

I am not even going to fact check the classification of attacks or whatever of the article you presented which obviously has a pro islam bias, but according to the numbers it presents the right wing would have to murder at least 800% more people than it does now to be as dangerous as muslims! (50 casualties per 1% of the population would lead to 2100 casualties for the 42% on the right)
 
tsuke said:
holy crap! Do you realize how bad this is? Muslims account for 1% of the total US population. That population got you 50 casualties due to muslim terrorism. "Right wing terrorism" caused you 254 casualties. Too be at all proportional your numbers have to show that the right wing only account for 5% of the population! Anyone can tell you that its way more than that! According to the studies I could find 26% of the population is registered republicans while 42% are registered republican.

I am not even going to fact check the classification of attacks or whatever of the article you presented which obviously has a pro islam bias, but according to the numbers it presents the right wing would have to murder at least 800% more people than it does now to be as dangerous as muslims! (50 casualties per 1% of the population would lead to 2100 casualties for the 42% on the right)
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Holy crap, do you realize they're comparing subsets of the population? And that the subsets are right-wing extremists v. Muslim extremists? Why don't you show the total numbers of extremists in each subset before spouting off?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
You're part of why you can't have a rational debate on this with the left. It's like you have to preface every comment regarding Islamic terrorism with #notallMuslims or youre a bigot. It's just annoying on a debate board but politicians are fearful of the label so they have to toe the line or pay for it at the voting booth.

And it's bullshit.

Per capita, Muslims stand a much greater chance of being terrorists than white males do. I'm sorry, they just do. Muslims comprise what, less than 5% of the total population. Us dangerous white guys comprise way higher, probably ten times higher.

Yet Muslim males are responsible for killing scores of innocent Americans over the past nine months. While the white male mass murders are on a hiatus.

The lefts problem is reality is politically incorrect.
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You already have an error. You're comparing the total population of Muslims with the population subset of white males. It needs to be corrected to Muslim males v. white other religion males.
 
christiefan915 said:
Holy crap, do you realize they're comparing subsets of the population? And that the subsets are right-wing extremists v. Muslim extremists? Why don't you show the total numbers of extremists in each subset before spouting off?
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you can move your goal posts all you want but your article which has a pro muslim bias clearly shows that muslims are much more terrorism prone than the right wing by a factor of 800%
 
Thing1 said:
All it takes is 1. Why do you assume that people are talking about everyone w/ guns?

If everyone had a gun, all of the time, there would be more shootings. You've never seen a fight get out of control? Road rage? People who are normally fine who see red & just lose it?
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Why weren't there these types of shootings when we had no gun laws?

Your argument doesn't stand up to logic. The reality is that the more you infringe on our gun rights the worse it gets.

Happens with everything liberals touch.
 
So, just looking up statistics wherever I could, ~75-80% of arrests for pedophilia are white males. Does that mean if you have a cross section of men of varying colors, and you pick out a white guy, he's say, maybe 5% more likely to be a pedophile? No, but it means if you are able to pick out a pedophile from that group, he's 75% more likely to be white.
 
Teflon Don said:
Why weren't there these types of shootings when we had no gun laws?

Your argument doesn't stand up to logic. The reality is that the more you infringe on our gun rights the worse it gets.

Happens with everything liberals touch.
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Yeah we had no shootings like this when nobody bought guns like this! Take THAT gun grabbers!
 
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