Just so we're clear about muslims and homosexuals

I am not "ignoring" anything..I specifically mentioned "fringe groups". Yes "terrorism is terrorism" it's targeting innocents (etc.)

But the quantity/frequency differentiates Islamic terrorism from that generic terms/uses. Including Xtians.
It's what makes Islamic terrorism so deadly; it's scope and size and frequency.

It's pointless. There's no convincing them.
 
Bullshit you fucking halfwit.
This attack like many others is directly attributable to OUR action in The ME, not vice versa.
Until we stop launching drone attacks against innocent civillians these attacks will remain manifold and ifanxthing increase in severity and number.
Fucking idiotic childn
How about bin laden. that wasn't about drone attacks.

you FAIL to understand that salfi jihad is not just against the west; salafi jihadists target takfiri.
Look at ISIS killing on fellow Muslims....
 
Bullshit.
This act is a reaction you fucking blind idiot.
salafi is a movement - it's now entwined with Muslim jihad. It's expressed as worldwide AQ or ISIS.
It exists independent of the west. It targets othr Muslims
 
According to the lefties here this muslime terrorist who killed 50 of HowAIDS buddies wasn't religious even though he attended a mosque for 13 years. Go figger.
 
According to the lefties here this muslime terrorist who killed 50 of HowAIDS buddies wasn't religious even though he attended a mosque for 13 years. Go figger.

Yep, ILA has a lot in common with the Orlando murderer. Neither can go "3 or 4 sentences" without using a racial or gay slur. Nothing more American than that.
 
Imam speaking in Orlando said gays must be killed out of 'compassion'... https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...olf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/ v

Not unlike libreal compassion for inconvenient babies.
No wonder the left coddly muslim murderers.

Muslims across America showed an outpouring of support for victims after the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history left at least 50 people dead in an Orlando, Fla., nightclub.

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement that said, "We condemn this monstrous attack and offer our heartfelt condolences to the families and loved ones of all those killed or injured. The Muslim community joins our fellow Americans in repudiating anyone or any group that would claim to justify or excuse such an appalling act of violence.

The Muslim civil liberties organization is asking for blood donations to help those injured in the attack.

The American Muslim Community Centers, a mosque in Longwood, Fla., said the mosque stands with Americans and "senseless violence has no place in our religion or in our society."

''The American Muslim Community Centers is saddened and shocked by the senseless killings in downtown Orlando, and we pray for the victims and their family members," said Chairman Atif Fareed.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-muslim-reaction/85790320/
 
ISIS regularly throws homosexuals off buildings . They are an abomination to ISIS.

I think it's down to what degree of cooperation there was -lone wolf or not
 
We found out some time back what some of these clerics were preaching in UK mosques, MI5 monitors them pretty closely these days. However getting them booted out has proved much harder due to the Human Rights Act.

Incitement is still a crime.
 
Imam speaking in Orlando said gays must be killed out of 'compassion'... https://pjmedia.com/homeland-securi...olf-terrorist-previously-investigated-by-fbi/ v

Not unlike libreal compassion for inconvenient babies.
No wonder the left coddly muslim murderers.

Here's what that imam had to say about the murders. Figures you haters wouldn't look at context.

Fusion got in touch with Dr. Sekaleshfar, who lives in the holy city of Qum in Iran and is currently traveling in Sydney, Australia. Asked what his reactions are to today’s attacks, he told Fusion through Facebook, “I am totally against the barbaric act of violence that has happened. In no way at all can such a killing be justified Islamically.”
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He called Orlando shooter Omar Mateen Siddiqui “an ill and perverted, animalistic entity who has abused an ideology to satiate his sad, twisted desires.”
Asked specifically about his March comments about gays in Orlando, Sekaleshfar called it an “academic discussion” where he was describing the “theoretical angle as to what Islam says.”


“I never gave the call to a death sentence,” he said, adding that extracts were taken out of context. “I was explaining what Islamic law – in a country whose people democratically desired Islamic law to be exercised – states in relation to NOT homosexuals, but rather in relation to when the act of anal copulation is executed in such an aforementioned public,” he said.
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WFTV, which reported in March on the Orlando sermon, says that Dr. Sekaleshfar addressed homosexuality in similar tones at a
at the University of Michigan, three years earlier. That lecture was recorded and uploaded to YouTube, where it’s available today:

In it, Sekaleshfar took issue with the perception that he was advocating hatred of homosexuals, “Because the sinner is Allah’s creation,” he said. “You could never hate Allah’s creation.”

Following the attacks, Sekaleshfar told Fusion he would call for Muslim leaders to invite LGBT leaders to talk and listen.

http://fusion.net/story/313063/orlando-terror-attack-muslim-lgbt/
 
ISIS regularly throws homosexuals off buildings . They are an abomination to ISIS.

I think it's down to what degree of cooperation there was -lone wolf or not

It doesn't matter.
None of this would be happening if we were not in the ME.
 
How about bin laden. that wasn't about drone attacks.

you FAIL to understand that salfi jihad is not just against the west; salafi jihadists target takfiri.
Look at ISIS killing on fellow Muslims....

You think Bin Laden was out of thin air?
Your "best ally" Saudi Arabia 's favorite son
who funneled billions OUT of Saudi Arabia to fund decades of terrorism was an anomaly?
Cause and effect.
Occum's razor says until the drones stop western attacks will increase.
 
Well, it appears that not even gays can upstage Muslims as most-favored minority by the left.

I don't understand comments like this one.

As someone who is normally associated w/ the "left," I can tell you that I have huge problems w/ Islam, just as I do w/ religion in general. And I have no problem agreeing that there are more atrocities in the name of Islam in the present day.

That said, my 2nd thoughts after incidents like this (my 1st are truly sympathy & horror), relate almost completely to what I don't want America to become. And - like the thread I started earlier - that's a place like Nazi Germany, or Stalin's Russia, where ANY group is generalized and scapegoated. People talk about "slippery slope" on issues, but this is one where it's been proven time & again. Today, it's calling for a ban on Muslim travel. In a few years, it's barbed wire & cattle cars.
 
Muslims across America showed an outpouring of support for victims after the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history left at least 50 people dead in an Orlando, Fla., nightclub.

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement that said, "We condemn this monstrous attack and offer our heartfelt condolences to the families and loved ones of all those killed or injured. The Muslim community joins our fellow Americans in repudiating anyone or any group that would claim to justify or excuse such an appalling act of violence.

The Muslim civil liberties organization is asking for blood donations to help those injured in the attack.

The American Muslim Community Centers, a mosque in Longwood, Fla., said the mosque stands with Americans and "senseless violence has no place in our religion or in our society."

''The American Muslim Community Centers is saddened and shocked by the senseless killings in downtown Orlando, and we pray for the victims and their family members," said Chairman Atif Fareed.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-muslim-reaction/85790320/

That's nice of them.
Perhaps they could consider monitoring their imams and explain why saying killing homosexuals is okey doke is not muslimey. One has to wonder why they don't get proactive on cleaning up their pr.
 
ISIS regularly throws homosexuals off buildings . They are an abomination to ISIS.

I think it's down to what degree of cooperation there was -lone wolf or not

Lone wolf or no, all that matteres is that allah says homosexuals are an abomination as its known what you do with abominations.
 
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